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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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Trickster
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That's pretty cool. He's a pretty fun caster imo.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
He has been saying for the longest time he is going to Korea and cast for Gom but was waiting for them to announce it I guess. Cool that it finally has a date.
technically, he's proved Idra right.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Good for him. He's not an good player but he's definitely an above average caster.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Internet is fast again 
Maybe I can finally stream in higher quality guys :-0
Dunno if Ill be on for gaf night or be on for long. In the process of un-boxing everything now...
Maybe I can finally stream in higher quality guys :-0
Dunno if Ill be on for gaf night or be on for long. In the process of un-boxing everything now...
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I love you.
ShallNoiseUpon
Member
I would be lying if I said ksan didn't send me that link first, but I'll still take all the credit.
I don't get ZvP. They always FFE, but I want to go 2 base Muta, so I stay on 2 Base Muta, so he builds 3 cannons at each mineral line so I can't harass, so I take my third and fourth, but he takes his third and I can't do anything, then he just maxes and pushes and I lose.
I know the standard is fast three bases into Roaches, but I ALWAYS lose whenever I try this. It is completely unintuitive to me when I should stop making Roaches if I do this. I feel like I have to constantly max on Roach to stay alive and do enough damage to get ahead, especially if he makes Immortals.
I know the standard is fast three bases into Roaches, but I ALWAYS lose whenever I try this. It is completely unintuitive to me when I should stop making Roaches if I do this. I feel like I have to constantly max on Roach to stay alive and do enough damage to get ahead, especially if he makes Immortals.
It's not just Roaches, you have to have a mixture of Roach/Ling. The zerglings distract Stalker fire and can be used to prevent the Protoss from retreating. The ideal scenario is to have the zerglings roaming outside your base, waiting to flank when the Protoss engages your roaches.
Don't take the gases on your 3rd immediately, you only need 3-4 gases to make roach/ling. Are you making sure to get +1 ground armor? Once you stop the Protoss push he will try to take a 3rd. Annoy it a bit with zerglings while taking a 4th AND 5th and teching to Broodlords.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
CombatEX finally quitting sc2? SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN INCONTROL DOESNT DO SHOWMATCHES! lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyhQilIZBRk
How long till he comes back?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyhQilIZBRk
How long till he comes back?
FUCK.
THIS.
GAME.
ZvP is the stupidest fucking matchup. Jesus Christ.
Fast 3 bases vs. FFE, saturate them all, he does a 2 base Blink stalker timing, smash it with Ling Roach, get 7ish Infestors out, take a fourth at the gold, tech to hive/greater spire, he pushes again with templar before I can saturate my fourth, and I die. Off two base. Seriously, I cannot beat Protoss.
THIS.
GAME.
ZvP is the stupidest fucking matchup. Jesus Christ.
Fast 3 bases vs. FFE, saturate them all, he does a 2 base Blink stalker timing, smash it with Ling Roach, get 7ish Infestors out, take a fourth at the gold, tech to hive/greater spire, he pushes again with templar before I can saturate my fourth, and I die. Off two base. Seriously, I cannot beat Protoss.
Replay? I think maybe you're focusing too much on droning up when you don't need to
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
I'm surprised you're losing. I never beat a 4 base zerg with 2 bases. It shouldn't take you that long to saturate a 4th. Are you fighting on ramps? That's a bad idea against AOE. Fight in the open and win.
There is only one true reaction to this
Cruel but hilarious xD
I do fight in the open. Doesn't matter, Blink Stalkers and storms are just too good against Roaches. Fungal doesn't do shit unless you have 10000000000 Lings.
It's not going to help. I've posted replays before and I'd do alright for my MMR at that time, then I'll go on a mini winstreak and my winrate goes back to 0 when I face better players. It's like there's no way for me to actually get better at understanding the matchup unless I can see exactly what he's doing at all times.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Broodlords. Get to them. You should be able to safely if he's on 2 base. Use spine crawlers to back up your army for defense until Broodlords are out.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
XD so hilarious! I didn't know Grubby has his own channel, will subscribe :3
Moletrap and Torch are casting LoL Proleague for OGN.
iNcontroL is a temporary replacement for Moletrap at GOM.
I sense trouble brewing. OGN is looking to poach GOM's casters, probably to prepare for the inevitable SC2 Proleague. Imagine the shitstorm that would occur if OGN poached Tastetosis.
iNcontroL is a temporary replacement for Moletrap at GOM.
I sense trouble brewing. OGN is looking to poach GOM's casters, probably to prepare for the inevitable SC2 Proleague. Imagine the shitstorm that would occur if OGN poached Tastetosis.
His second attack hit right when my Greater Spire finished. No time for Broods. I could have done Spines but I wasn't making any extra drones until I could saturate my gold, but his army was there before I could even do that.
Protoss 6/7 games so far, only ones I've beaten were: an instaleave, and a guy who pushed off 4 Gates from FFE, which I smashed, and then he...died when I pushed back.
What are your map vetoes?
You should veto Shakuras Plateau, Tal'Darim Altar, and Shattered Temple.
Entombed instead of Shakuras (herp derp rocks lolz). The game in question was on Antiga.
Code A is losing Moletrap and gaining iNcontrol? I'm okay with this, might actually watch more code A.
I have that vetoed because PvP is shitty on that map.
I vetoed Metalopolis instead of Shakuras because Metalopolis favors Zerg and Shakuras favors Protoss.
I have no idea how you're struggling with ZvP on Antiga. It's so wide open you should be able to surround the Protoss death ball. Your map awareness must be bad.
I don't get it either, man.
Do you not think it might help a little bit if we can tell you some of the things you're doing wrong so you can work on improving? And that's just kind of how it goes, you go on win streaks, then you lose to better players, as long as you keep playing and keep having those little win streaks you should just keep getting better and better.
Maybe it's upgrades? Are you AT LEAST at 2/2 by the time you die? How is your creep spread?
Why? It's an awesome map. It's my favorite map actually.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
So he left GOM or he still there while working on LoL on the side?
He didn't say he left GOM, but I doubt he would be working at two competing companies at the same time. Especially since we know OGN is preparing an SC2 Proleague and will need English casters for it.
I hope he wins OSL 2012 since it's probably the last one ever, and that all of Broodwar switches to SC2 soon afterwards.
It's clear Broodwar isn't viable financially anymore. Team 8 has no sponsors and OSL won't either, which is why it's been so delayed and why they're only doing one this year. They can't possibly keep this up.
I want to see what God can do with SC2.
It's clear Broodwar isn't viable financially anymore. Team 8 has no sponsors and OSL won't either, which is why it's been so delayed and why they're only doing one this year. They can't possibly keep this up.
I want to see what God can do with SC2.
The problem is that I can pick out things I did wrong in specific games, but it can be something different in every game. There is no common thread for why I'm losing, other than I don't understand what I should do at a certain point in every single game. So I can look at a certain game, see what I did wrong, and work on that, but then I lose the next game because of something completely different.
It's not like I'm losing every game because I'm getting supply blocked, or because I'm not making enough Drones. I just don't know when I'm supposed to do what I should be doing. If I tech, I get pushed and die. If I make more army, he turtles and expands, and now I'm maxed on low tech units. Back and forth. I try and do the same build every game, but I die at a different point in the build every time. It feels like unless I constantly attack him from the time I start pumping units (9:00 or so), I will get pushed at the perfect time for him, while I'm teching or saturating a new base or something, and I'll die.
I was 2-0 melee. Didn't add a second evo because I needed the gas for Roaches/Roach speed/Infestors/Hive/Spire/Greater Spire.
That explains your losses entirely. You're going roach without upgrades against what is likely 2-2 or 3-3 Protoss. Also, you have no armor upgrades?! That's what you're supposed to prioritize against Protoss. Make 1 less Infestor and get +1 armor.