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Rumored Chinese Forum Xbox720 specs: 8CoreCPU,8GB,HD8800GPU,W8,640GBHDD
- Thread starter ekim
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If you've been following rumors for a while, these specs come at no surprise. It's what we've been expecting for a while.
I'm expecting PS4 to be very similar, just with fewer cores that have higher clock speeds and less RAM but with more RAM bandwidth. I imagine performance will be pretty similar in practice, depending on OS requirements.
If they're using DDR3 and Jaguar cores it'll be pretty cheap to assemble and maufacture.
First thing that comes to mind. Sounds expensive.
Can't imagine the lowest SKU would have anywhere near 640GB also. Not that the HDD is a very expensive component.
Hopefully their custom GPU is beefier than that. I want something on par with a 7970.
Everything ending on x800 at AMD is a mid-range card. As the next generation mid-range one could expect it to be a bit slower than current generation high-end.
8 CPU cores are fantastic if they are "fat" cores, but a bit disappointing if it's just Jaguar.
FalsettoVibe
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Next gen, hurry up and get here!!!
phosphor112
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Where have you been?
shinra-bansho
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So we'd be looking at something like ~2.5TFLOPS then?
tkscz
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By taking said huge loss I suppose. There is no other way.
If it's Jaguar cores and 8 GB DDR3 that's easy.
1st Course
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8 GB of ram? does that mean that it will use a DRR memory type?
It's MS, they can afford it. This time they have 360 that will sell very well for the next 2-3 years and will recoup the next-fen losses.
also if by 8800 they mean they latest re-badged batch of OEM 8800s which are 7800s in all but name.
To clarify AMD namings.
8800 is the base for top cards, 8900 are enthusiast cards.
Mainstream will be: 8870 and 8850
Mobile will probably look like this: 8670, 8650 etc.
Edit: And it will be a customized chip, so no direct comparisons
Indeed
8800 is the base for top cards, 8900 are enthusiast cards.
Mainstream will be: 8870 and 8850
Mobile will probably look like this: 8670, 8650 etc.
Edit: And it will be a customized chip, so no direct comparisons
Indeed
Probably more like a Windows Phone situation. Just the core.
Various Artists
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Like another user mentioned, so many 8s. Wasn't that the rumored name for it a bit ago. Also, 8x80 is 640. Just saying.
AtomicShroom
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640GB hard drive is most probably only for the dev kits.
Historically dev kits have much bigger hard drives than actual retail units.
Historically dev kits have much bigger hard drives than actual retail units.
The Bookerman
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lol... Seriously? you think Microsoft makes THAT much money on the 360.
if the CPU is Jaguar cores, they cost nothing and take up no space at all, so discount those (probably cheaper than the 360 CPU to fab)
The HDD and bluray drive etc are all cheap to purchase these days
That just leaves the GPU and RAM. If AMD bid really low due to desparation, then the licensing fee could be pretty low which just leaves the fab cost, and thats down to how custom MS want to make it.
RAM - if they go with edram on the GPU then they could just have gobs of DDR3 RAM which won't cost them much.
GarthVaderUK
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My body is ready.
1st Course
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They can always relay on that XBL fee to reduce any possible losses anyway.
LukasTaves
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I'm expecting less than WinRT, like not even the desktop/office, just the metro UI.
I thought you were coming around to the idea of multiple skinny cores? Or is it just the '8' part thats an issue?
Presumably at least one would be locked off for OS, possibly two.
simple.
I agree. One place to cut costs is always HD size. Perhaps they'll have two SKUs for launch, one with ~32 GB of on-board space, and one with a ~320 GB HD for the core.
It'll be customized a bit.
and one or two for kinect if it's built in.
shira
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Cut those numbers by 1/3 and my realistic body is ready
Yes? They easily make $1b + profit in EDD yearly, a $50 loss on each 720, say they sell 10 mill first year, that's $500 mill loss. It's hefty but it can be covered.
PapaJustify
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Remember that devkits usually have doubled RAM. So we might end up with 4GB RAM in the final version.
AMD just released the 8K series only for OEMs, and it's almost all the exact same as the 7000 series. OEMs just wanted new model numbers this year.
The actual next architecture change will likely be called the 9000 series, as it will not make sense to have two 8000 series architectures.
So that begs the question: Does this just mean GCN/the 7k series in the Nextbox?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6570/amds-annual-gpu-rebadge-radeon-hd-8000-series-for-oems
God I hate the rebranding that AMD and Nvidia do.
As for the CPU there was also a rumor that it would have four way multithreading, which points right to the IBM Power7. The 8 core version of that in a console will be absolutely nuts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER7
The actual next architecture change will likely be called the 9000 series, as it will not make sense to have two 8000 series architectures.
So that begs the question: Does this just mean GCN/the 7k series in the Nextbox?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6570/amds-annual-gpu-rebadge-radeon-hd-8000-series-for-oems
God I hate the rebranding that AMD and Nvidia do.
As for the CPU there was also a rumor that it would have four way multithreading, which points right to the IBM Power7. The 8 core version of that in a console will be absolutely nuts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POWER7
AMD (not nVidia) HD8800 series. The one that's not even out.
The HD 8800 series is basically a rebranded HD 7800 series... http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_Radeon_HD_8870_Feature_Summary.pdf Identical shader numbers and performance, you could tie this up as HD 5770 to HD 6770. Which was a very tiny tweak to an existing die iirc.
The HD 8850 (if it is a rebranded HD 7850) @ 800MHz would be ~1.6TFLOPs.
They're gonna lose a lot more than $50 unless they charge and arm and leg and sell a shit ton.
If those cores are proper cores, not some shit Atom or PowerPC crap like in WiiU, i'll be very impressed. Of course they will probably still work in less than 3ghz, but still its huge upgrade and will give us good tech boost in future.
88xx is good news too, very high shader cores count and modern design.
For RAM, i would prefer 4gb GDDR5 than 8gb of anything else.
88xx is good news too, very high shader cores count and modern design.
For RAM, i would prefer 4gb GDDR5 than 8gb of anything else.
haha... the press catches up although they should read the OP better:
http://www.gamechup.com/xbox-720-specs-eight-core-cpu-8-gb-ram-windows-8-kernel/
If more sites report about these specs, maybe MS will have to comment on them.
http://www.gamechup.com/xbox-720-specs-eight-core-cpu-8-gb-ram-windows-8-kernel/
If more sites report about these specs, maybe MS will have to comment on them.
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