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BitchTits
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(05-21-2008, 12:39 PM)
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later
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(05-21-2008, 01:06 PM)
Wiimiidia delayed (with no new ETA) is disappointing.
itxaka
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(05-24-2008, 06:19 PM)
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The Homebrew Channel has been launched!

http://hbc.hackmii.com/

This + rent TP and install it. After that you wonīt need Zelda anymore to launch homebrew!
radioheadrule83
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(05-24-2008, 06:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by itxaka

The Homebrew Channel has been launched!

http://hbc.hackmii.com/

This + rent TP and install it. After that you wonīt need Zelda anymore to launch homebrew!

Fucking awesome, thank you for the heads up!
BTRA
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(05-24-2008, 06:54 PM)

Originally Posted by itxaka

The Homebrew Channel has been launched!

http://hbc.hackmii.com/

This + rent TP and install it. After that you wonīt need Zelda anymore to launch homebrew!

sweet thanks~!
Disguises
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(05-24-2008, 07:16 PM)
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Some things is noticed: SNES9x no longer works correctly (can not find ROMS), Rin Doesn't boot at all. Is there a way to uninstall this channel correctly (by uninstalling tickets too)?
later
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(05-25-2008, 12:36 AM)
First time I tried to run the twilight hack..

After adding the save file, I put the homebrew channel on the SD card. (boot.elf)

I get the fat_readfile(boot.elf) failed with error -1 as well. I already formatted with the official SD card tool that wiibrew recommended.. Any ideas?

(PAL)
Scalpel Knight
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(05-25-2008, 07:44 AM)
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The Homebrew Channel is slick and very polished, haven't had any problems with it at all. Very, very cool. Wii homebrew is headed in a great direction.
Cynar
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(05-25-2008, 07:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by bistromathics

hmmm paradox, eh...

dont know what to make of that team after all that "ps3 iso loader" uncertainty

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=594895

different paradox, just one guy and he posts on the gbatemp forums.
itxaka
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(05-25-2008, 08:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Disguises

Some things is noticed: SNES9x no longer works correctly (can not find ROMS), Rin Doesn't boot at all. Is there a way to uninstall this channel correctly (by uninstalling tickets too)?

Yes. Wad unistaller

launch it with the TP hack or the homebrew channel, create a WAD directory on your SD card and put the homebrew channel wad file there. It will unistall the channel and the tickets. You can uninstall every channel like this so you wipe the tickets from the system. Totally recommended.


First time I tried to run the twilight hack..

After adding the save file, I put the homebrew channel on the SD card. (boot.elf)

I get the fat_readfile(boot.elf) failed with error -1 as well. I already formatted with the official SD card tool that wiibrew recommended.. Any ideas?

(PAL)

Do you have the last version of the TP save? there are different versions, you should use the last.
Do you have your SD card formatted in fat16?
If you have everything and it still does not work, probably your card is not supported. Which brand, size and speed is it?

You can try to use the experimental one that tries to fix the error you mention
later
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(05-25-2008, 09:24 AM)
Thanks, tried a different SD card and it works now.
mandiller
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(05-25-2008, 10:06 AM)
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The Homebrew Channel is awesome. Brilliant work by the developers. It looks and feels just like a Nintendo developed channel.
JoshuaJSlone
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(05-25-2008, 10:09 AM)
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Before messing with the Twilight Hack each time to get something running sounded like too much of a hassle, but I'll give this a go.

I don't suppose there are any utilities yet that allow you to bend the Wii's rules in ways other than just running arbitrary programs? Like something to allow you to backup and restore normally uncopiable saves.
itxaka
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(05-25-2008, 10:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by JoshuaJSlone

Before messing with the Twilight Hack each time to get something running sounded like too much of a hassle, but I'll give this a go.

I don't suppose there are any utilities yet that allow you to bend the Wii's rules in ways other than just running arbitrary programs? Like something to allow you to backup and restore normally uncopiable saves.


Yes there is :D

Savegame extractor and Savegame installer
Jocchan
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(05-25-2008, 10:25 AM)
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Do we still have any reason to be afraid of updates bricking a Wii that's been using stuff like this?
I'm seriously tempted by some of this stuff (like the pointer-controlled ScummVM and the ability to backup those savegames you couldn't normally copy on SD cards).
hirokazu
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(05-25-2008, 10:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by itxaka

Yes there is :D

Savegame extractor and Savegame installer

That's neat. What about a tool to extract your legit purchased VC/WiiWare purchases and their tickets (and possibly reinstall them with WAD installer)?

After removing the battery, my Weather Channel just says "Start Weather Channel to view current weather" instead of showing the temperature and conditions in the channel preview. I read that formatting the Wii system memory fixes it, but I can't because of the unmovable save files and the VC transaction record.

Pretty stupid that the only fix is to format the memory, which wipes everything out. Seriously.
itxaka
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(05-25-2008, 11:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jocchan

Do we still have any reason to be afraid of updates bricking a Wii that's been using stuff like this?
I'm seriously tempted by some of this stuff (like the pointer-controlled ScummVM and the ability to backup those savegames you couldn't normally copy on SD cards).

No, no problems for the moment as you wipe the tickets, so itīs like nothing happened on your wii.


That's neat. What about a tool to extract your legit purchased VC/WiiWare purchases and their tickets (and possibly reinstall them with WAD installer)?

That is difficult. You have to dump your nand, search for them and convert them to wad.
Much easier to just redownload them again from the store.
hirokazu
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(05-25-2008, 11:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by itxaka

No, no problems for the moment as you wipe the tickets, so itīs like nothing happened on your wii.




That is difficult. You have to dump your nand, search for them and convert them to wad.
Much easier to just redownload them again from the store.

Yeah, the thing is, if I were to format the system memory, I would lose all transaction records, which means I'd have to pay for them again! :(
itxaka
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(05-25-2008, 11:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by hirokazu

Yeah, the thing is, if I were to format the system memory, I would lose all transaction records, which means I'd have to pay for them again! :(

Really? Didnīt know, then...

Get Wii Filesystem Dumper
You will need a SD card with at least 512MB of free space in the Wii front SD slot.
Launch the program.
Wait until the countdown finishes or press A button in a GC controller.
The filesystem contents will be dumped in a folder called "wii_fs"
Then copy everything to your PC.

Now navigate to WII_FS\TITLE\00010001\*KEY*\CONTENT\
*KEY* is the ID in Binary of the channel.
To know which channel are you creating you can open 00000000.app with the notepad or an Hexadecimal editor to search for it:
[IMG]http://i30.************/m7an8i.png[/IMG]

Then you have to convert them to .wad

Get Waadmaker
Open it, it will ask for the Title.tmd. You can found it in WII_FS\TITLE\00010001\*KEY*\CONTENT\
Select it and press "Make title.wad" it will ask for an output folder, choose one empty folder as it copies the title.wad+all the files

There you go, a wad channel from your nand dump, with your ticket that you can install from the wad installer.
JoshuaJSlone
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(05-25-2008, 11:49 AM)
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Quick impressions from someone who hadn't messed with Wii homebrew before: pretty nice. Tried installing at first without reformatting my card, but that didn't go. After the format things went fine. Tried out most of the included applications.

GameCube Linux: Seemed to freeze partway through the loading process, on "Freeing unused kernel memory: 160k init".

SCUMM VM: Copied over Beneath a Steel Sky and it mostly worked fine... however, it couldn't successfully save. Not sure what was up with that.

Tetris: It's... Tetris. Plain, but it works.

Wii64: Doesn't hold a candle to the Virtual Console emulator, but it did actually load Super Mario 64... slowly.


I know a lot of the existing homebrew is in pretty basic shape, or is older and only designed to run from SD cards through GCN's memory card, or installs as its own channel... but any suggestions on other things that are capable of working now through the Homebrew Channel, and worthwhile?
itxaka
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(05-25-2008, 12:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by JoshuaJSlone

I know a lot of the existing homebrew is in pretty basic shape, or is older and only designed to run from SD cards through GCN's memory card, or installs as its own channel... but any suggestions on other things that are capable of working now through the Homebrew Channel, and worthwhile?

Snes9x wit 2 wiimote support, direct savegame and long filenames

Genesis Plus


FCE Ultra (Nes)

Hugo (PC-Engine)

RIN (GBC)

WiiWhiteboard (needs 2 remotes) More info

Gecko Free
later
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(05-25-2008, 12:46 PM)
It doesn't appear that there is anything worthwhile if you're not interested in the emulators (yet).
Unlimited4s
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(05-25-2008, 01:27 PM)
Are those PAL bugs fixed in Snes9x yet? (too slow/fast, black&white in PAL60,..)
Ramenman
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(05-25-2008, 01:33 PM)

Originally Posted by itxaka


WiiWhiteboard (needs 2 remotes) More info

HOLY COW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOa3HHblfEg

This rocks.


Anyone knows if it could work with a laser pointer ?
Jocchan
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(05-25-2008, 01:39 PM)
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I think it could even work if you had a tv remote and made sure the wiimote acting as a camera could see its LED.
It wouldn't be as comfortable as a pen-shaped object though :P
radioheadrule83
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(05-25-2008, 01:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Unlimited4s

Are those PAL bugs fixed in Snes9x yet? (too slow/fast, black&white in PAL60,..)

That isn't a bug. If your console is in 60hz or 480p, PAL games will play too fast, in 50hz NTSC games will play too slow.
Unlimited4s
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(05-25-2008, 01:44 PM)

Originally Posted by radioheadrule83

That isn't a bug. If your console is in 60hz or 480p, PAL games will play too fast, in 50hz NTSC games will play too slow.

Well, the problem is that I can't use the 60hz mode if I want to see colors :(.
(and I don't have component inputs)
itxaka
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(05-25-2008, 02:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Unlimited4s

Well, the problem is that I can't use the 60hz mode if I want to see colors :(.
(and I don't have component inputs)

yeah, itīs fixed now on the link I provided. They had an issue with the 60hz until Emukidd provided the updated source code for proper output recognition ;)
Unlimited4s
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(05-25-2008, 02:24 PM)

Originally Posted by itxaka

yeah, itīs fixed now on the link I provided. They had an issue with the 60hz until Emukidd provided the updated source code for proper output recognition ;)

Doesn't work :(. Still black&white over here :(.
itxaka
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(05-25-2008, 02:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Unlimited4s

Doesn't work :(. Still black&white over here :(.

yep you are rigth, there are pal60 versions but they donīt work :(
JoshuaJSlone
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(05-25-2008, 02:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by itxaka

Snes9x wit 2 wiimote support, direct savegame and long filenames

Genesis Plus


FCE Ultra (Nes)

Hugo (PC-Engine)

RIN (GBC)

WiiWhiteboard (needs 2 remotes) More info

Gecko Free

Nice. Right now one must do a bit of setup work to get them going in the Homebrew Channel, giving them a directory, renaming their ELF, and making sure they have a PNG and description; I just used a generic one copied again and slightly modified for each thing to set them up. I suppose now that the Homebrew Channel is out it will become pretty standard to include that sort of thing from the get-go.

Pretty impressed with RIN/FCEU/SNES9x. Visually they seem a bit behind the Virtual Console emulators due to seeming a bit blurry even with interpolation options turned off. The added options are nice, though, and they pretty much played whatever I threw at it, though I tested nothing for very long. I couldn't get saving to work with SNES9x, though, and I didn't even tried it with RIN/FCEU.
Easy_D
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(05-25-2008, 03:56 PM)
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So does the Homebrew channel's ticket get removed when you delete it like a regular channel? Because that's what it tells you to do when you want to uninstall it.

I don't want to leave any tickets on my Wii for future updates though, and to get it removed you need the WAD file so Wad Uninstaller can find it :(


Lazy version: Is there a .Wad out there for the new Homebrew Channel Beta? :D
radioheadrule83
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(05-25-2008, 04:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Easy_D

So does the Homebrew channel's ticket get removed when you delete it like a regular channel? Because that's what it tells you to do when you want to uninstall it.

I don't want to leave any tickets on my Wii for future updates though, and to get it removed you need the WAD file so Wad Uninstaller can find it :(


Lazy version: Is there a .Wad out there for the new Homebrew Channel Beta? :D

Unfortunately I think not.

I went ahead and installed it anyway. They mention that just deleting it would leave stuff on your system. They say that should be fine and if its not they'll address it in future (probably by releasing a new version of the channel, or an uninstaller for it).
radioheadrule83
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(05-25-2008, 04:04 PM)
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To make your own entries on the new Homebrew Channel beta, you need three files. A boot.dol or boot.elf file (this is what the Homebrew Channel loads), icon.png and meta.xml.

To make meta.xml files for the new Homebrew Channel beta, you can use this handy app

http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_meta-xml-editor_1028723

To make the icon.png, just use photoshop, save for web and save as PNG-8 file. Dimensions are 128x48

There is a set of pre-made icons for FCEU, Rin, Snes9x and OpenTyrian here - http://uploaded.to/?id=laswxf
Easy_D
never left the stone age
(05-25-2008, 07:17 PM)
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There's a .wad out for Beta 7 now.

You can get it Here

Simple and easy to get rid of with Wad Uninstaller :) No worry about tickets as far as I know.
Haunted
(05-25-2008, 07:22 PM)
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Just installed the Homebrew channel and tried out some of the scumm stuff. Pretty cool, pretty cool.
Scalpel Knight
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(05-26-2008, 01:12 AM)
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For those having trouble with save states in snes9x, just make the folder \snes9x\saves on your SD card (NOT in the "apps" folder, but in the snes9x folder in the root of your card). It doesn't make the folder automatically for you, so you have to create it - after that, you shouldn't have any errors and it will write and read saves from that folder.
Crouching Zebra
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(05-26-2008, 05:03 AM)
Okay, so I'm trying to boot Snes9x. It works. I'm using the current version above. For some reason, it won't read my SDCard or ROMs folder (yet it picks up the emulator .elf file, go figure).

Is there any reason for this? And what are slots A and B? What slot A and B? Lol.

Help, prease? :)
hirokazu
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(05-26-2008, 05:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by itxaka

Really? Didnīt know, then...

Get Wii Filesystem Dumper
You will need a SD card with at least 512MB of free space in the Wii front SD slot.
Launch the program.
Wait until the countdown finishes or press A button in a GC controller.
The filesystem contents will be dumped in a folder called "wii_fs"
Then copy everything to your PC.

Now navigate to WII_FS\TITLE\00010001\*KEY*\CONTENT\
*KEY* is the ID in Binary of the channel.
To know which channel are you creating you can open 00000000.app with the notepad or an Hexadecimal editor to search for it:
[IMG]http://i30.************/m7an8i.png[/IMG]

Then you have to convert them to .wad

Get Waadmaker
Open it, it will ask for the Title.tmd. You can found it in WII_FS\TITLE\00010001\*KEY*\CONTENT\
Select it and press "Make title.wad" it will ask for an output folder, choose one empty folder as it copies the title.wad+all the files

There you go, a wad channel from your nand dump, with your ticket that you can install from the wad installer.

Awesome, thanks!
dmshaposv
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(05-26-2008, 05:42 AM)
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Am I the only one who read the title as "NeoGaf's official Wii Hebrew thread"?
Relix
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(05-26-2008, 05:44 AM)
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I would install the channel... but I fear Nintendo =S.

Also is it just me or is this thing exploding real fast?!? I am kinda worried that they will get pirated games to run on the Wii, with such an easy method it would be a bad thing for Nintendo. Meeeeeh..... the homebrew sure looks nice, and very happy that Snes9x is perfectly functional now.
Speevy
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(05-26-2008, 05:47 AM)
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Nintendo's not going to brick anyone's Wii. I mean they will, but far more people will do it to themselves because they have no idea how these files work.

Nintendo did not create the Wii for the purpose of installing buggy software.
C.T.
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(05-26-2008, 06:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ramenman

HOLY COW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOa3HHblfEg

This rocks.


Anyone knows if it could work with a laser pointer ?

he basically copied the head tracking guy, who showed it first.
JoshuaJSlone
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(05-26-2008, 07:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Scalpel Knight

For those having trouble with save states in snes9x, just make the folder \snes9x\saves on your SD card (NOT in the "apps" folder, but in the snes9x folder in the root of your card). It doesn't make the folder automatically for you, so you have to create it - after that, you shouldn't have any errors and it will write and read saves from that folder.

Ahh, thanks. Speaking of directory finickiness, FCEU freaked out when an drive:/fceu/roms/ directory didn't exist. Once I created it, it even allowed me to navigate to other directories, but without finding its default location to begin with I couldn't get anywhere.

Originally Posted by Crouching Zebra

Okay, so I'm trying to boot Snes9x. It works. I'm using the current version above. For some reason, it won't read my SDCard or ROMs folder (yet it picks up the emulator .elf file, go figure).

Is there any reason for this? And what are slots A and B? What slot A and B? Lol.

It gave me FCEU-like troubles as well; ROMs need to be in drive:/snes9x/roms . Slots A and B refer to the GameCube slots; the one you probably want is called "Wii SD" or "Wii Front", or something like that. Though I did notice in at least one place where after flipping through the options it never presented the front Wii slot as a choice again.
itxaka
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(05-26-2008, 07:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Crouching Zebra

Okay, so I'm trying to boot Snes9x. It works. I'm using the current version above. For some reason, it won't read my SDCard or ROMs folder (yet it picks up the emulator .elf file, go figure).

Is there any reason for this? And what are slots A and B? What slot A and B? Lol.

Help, prease? :)

You can try the official versions

Slot A and B are the gamecube memory slots, be sure to have no GC memory cards inserted as there is a bug with that.

Also is it just me or is this thing exploding real fast?!? I am kinda worried that they will get pirated games to run on the Wii, with such an easy method it would be a bad thing for Nintendo. Meeeeeh..... the homebrew sure looks nice, and very happy that Snes9x is perfectly functional now.

Well, almost everything is the source code of the gamecube compiled using the wii libs, so itīs been an easy upgrade. It will take long to really take use of the wii hardware. And it really doesnīt matter the pirated games, I mean, there has been modchips available since a long time, people that want to use them will have a modchip installed.
Plus, while bushing, marcan and friends from wiibrew.org are developing everything, it will take veeery long for it, they are totally against piracy, and in fact some advancements of wii hardware had taken some more time for that.
layzie1989
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(05-26-2008, 01:58 PM)
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got everything to work right finally, and I am ecstatic
Ramenman
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(05-26-2008, 03:48 PM)

Originally Posted by C.T.

he basically copied the head tracking guy, who showed it first.

Yeah, I know it's a Johnny Lee thing, it's written in the video description. But this was the vid attached to the Wii Port so I just linked to it instead of searching the original video from JL.
later
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(05-26-2008, 03:56 PM)
I'd much rather see a head tracking demo , is that available as well?
C.T.
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(05-26-2008, 04:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by later

I'd much rather see a head tracking demo , is that available as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw
Ramenman
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(05-26-2008, 04:29 PM)

Originally Posted by later

I'd much rather see a head tracking demo , is that available as well?

You missed that ? Well actually it's not head tracking, but rather "point of view" tracking.

Which is far more awesome IMO. Stereoscopic 3D without stereoscopic 3D.


I hope someone does a .elf port of this one too, just like this guy did for the WhiteBoard app.

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