TimeEffect
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Sounds like bullshit, or a great excuse to backhand players. Either way it's a sneaky way to raise the temperature on consumers. It's a slippery slope, and they know it.
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SimCity Officially Announced: [New 9 Minute Strategy Video]
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Metalmurphy
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There's already a thread to complain about the "DRM", please don't ruin this one too. If you can't grasp your head on the concept that this SimCity is an online multiplayer game you can vent your "frustration" there.
Fuck this apologist attitude some people have. It is never, and never will be, ok to require a game be permanently online. It doesnt enhance gameplay, it doesnt add anything, it just fucks over people with unnecessary interuptions and limitations. I hated playing Diablo, and being half way through a level.. and oh wait.. nope back to the start cos i dropped out. If i wanted to play the game online, cool, patch me up when i sign in, and off we go. No way in hell should I ever be forced to be permanently connected to some server, to prove I didnt pirate the game. What happens in 5 years, or 10? People can still put in their Sim City 1 disc and install it and off you go. How do I know im going to be able to connect and play in 5 or 10 years time? Its unnecessary bullshit, and should not be accepted by anyone.
Metalmurphy
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Except in this game it does enhance it and it also adds a lot. This SimCity is a multiplayer game that you can play alone if you wish. It is not a SinglePlayer game that you can play online if you wish.
Would you complain about something like Vindictus being always online? No you wouldn't.
Also don't get the DLC reasoning. They can still shower you with DLC even if it's not always online. Just look at the Sims.
Except in this game it does enhance it and it also adds a lot. This SimCity is a multiplayer game that you can play alone if you wish. It is not a SinglePlayer game that you can play online if you wish.
Would you complain about something like Vindictus being always online? No you wouldn't.
Also don't get the DLC reasoning. They can still shower you with DLC even if it's not always online. Just look at the Sims.
Please accept my vapid platitudes and vague assurances.
Now, lets get back to being excited about screenshots.
*tee hee*
Metalmurphy
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Are they ever going to release a screenshot without jaggies 
Broder Salsa
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Are they ever going to release a screenshot without jaggies
Yes, when they decide to not just blur 50% of the screen but 100% of it.
captmorgan
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I want the simcity/syndicate crossover pack, where you can attack other players city's with 4 trench coat wearing guys.
So those of us who are excited about SimCity and know about its online requirement, but don't spend every single god fucking damned post on the game bitching about it, are apologists?
Go post in the thread about DRM, jesus christ. The online requirement might be necessary for technical reasons, probably not, I just don't care. It didn't affect my personal enjoyment of Diablo 3, the same will probably hold true for SimCity.
I have too much important shit in my life to devote it to the cause of informing people about DRM. If you don't like it, don't buy it, don't play it. Bitch about it in the thread that's actually about that topic.
And don't you FUCKING DARE tell me what I "should accept".
Dont you fucking dare tell me where I should post.
LumpOfCole
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I'm actually okay with an online multiplayer focused spinoff SimCity. Sounds like it might be fun if they can make sure to keep the micro and macro from being too simple and watered down.
I'm just not okay with this being marketed as a reboot of the franchise instead of as a spinoff. Call the game SimCity Online or EA it up by calling it 'SimCity Connections' or something similar.
But it's just disingenuous to simply call this new game 'SimCity.'
I'm just not okay with this being marketed as a reboot of the franchise instead of as a spinoff. Call the game SimCity Online or EA it up by calling it 'SimCity Connections' or something similar.
But it's just disingenuous to simply call this new game 'SimCity.'
stop right there. The moment you become a lead designer for every game in existence please PM me.
I understand where you are coming from but that dismissive tone is unnecessary.
It seems the individual cities will be relatively small but a region has connected plots when you want to branch out further so you are managing a county or whatever rather than a single city.
Think I'd rather have one big city but it's an interesting idea.
Metalmurphy
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I'd rather have several big cities connected in a region -.-
You still have to manage the same things, for example pollution spreads to neighbouring cities. And it creates the multiplayer opportunities.
Aha ideally of course. Hate to say it, but maybe in an expansion lol?
Mengy
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No screens of a big city yet. No mention of the capability at all. At this point, it sounds like all cities will be small.
I absolutely love the way Sim City 4 did it, gave us a lot of control and freedom to make a huge area of large city plots. It will be interesting to see how SC5 manages it with the small city plots.
Gouda Jouji
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Oh man I forgot there was a beta. I hope I get in.
I started playing 2000 again recently:
Judging from the zoom out, the cities are quite alot smaller.
I am a bit concerned about the city density, as the lot of you are. But I'm assuming that the ease of regional play this time will make up for it.
The one thing that has not been talked about in detail is the transit simulation. I hope that we get a more complete experience out of the box, comparable to Rush Hour this time, and not another expansion in the future. We already know there will be no subways. The development team stated that they would rather have surface level mass transit in order to display it graphically, but that's hardly a good excuse. I feel subways are being left out because the cities are too small to support it.
The one thing that has not been talked about in detail is the transit simulation. I hope that we get a more complete experience out of the box, comparable to Rush Hour this time, and not another expansion in the future. We already know there will be no subways. The development team stated that they would rather have surface level mass transit in order to display it graphically, but that's hardly a good excuse. I feel subways are being left out because the cities are too small to support it.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Seems kind of like Dragon Age 2, where it should have been called something else entirely. Otherwise you end up with people expecting something that the game isn't going to provide.
TheGreyHulk
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oh snap... D1P set reuinion... lol..
I'm excited for the game regardless of the DRM. it's shitty, but it doesn't affect me so i can accept it. i like the idea of the persistent online world, but i really am concerned about the sizes of the cities and the lame buffer zones in between cities. i want a vast area that's packed full of development around the shorelines like many metro areas are.
I dont believe so. The fact that I am not a game designer on every game in existence doesnt mean anything. Give me one legitimate reason why a predominantly single player game NEEDS to be always online. There isnt one, no game needs to be online constantly at all.
Sorry princess, didnt mean to hurt your feelings. Thanks for emphasisng the fucking dare also, if it wasnt in bold and capitalised I fear I might have missed it.
TheGreyHulk
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looks of decent size. definitely no max are like in simcity 4, but DEM BUFFER ZONES... man... it looks terrible visually when you have this sprawling metropolis and then NOTHING... the next zone is too far away. we need directly connected cities so we don't get this look.
Thats what it should be if you are going to do online. (AS AN OPTION NOT MANDATORYYYYYYYYY!)
Big ass city areas that you control, with areas next to you controlled by other people, you can trade water, electricity, have to manage connections... etc... can help each other if there is a diaster, send over police... etc... You should have to fight for employment and population with each other... etc...
Subliminal
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I don't know. Sim city 4 involved big cities and sweeping blocks of land. This Sim City has simulation as a much lower level, It's got a much better micro-game, although probably worse macro than SC4.
flyinpiranha
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SimCity Online looks awesome.
Whether you agree with the design decisions or not, the point is that the people who design the games can do whatever the hell they want with them.
Your option as a consumer is to not buy/not buy the game. You get to vote with your dollar. That goes for a lot of things, beyond just forced internet connectivity.
Also I agree that online is not necessary. Luckily or unluckily, game designers don't always conform strictly to needs. Especially since games are entertainment.
Subliminal
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Can people keep the shit about the drm in the thread for shit about the drm?
flyinpiranha
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Metalmurphy
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When there's a there's dedicated to that aspect I'd say the complaining is reasonable.
New screenshot,
Not sure what the blur is for..
DOF. Everything has it now.
CrunchyFrog
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I think it's meant to resemble the tilt-shift photography effect, in which the forced DoF creates the illusion of looking at a miniature when the photo is really of a large landscape, for example:
And a video
Really fascinating photography trick.
Problem is in this context you already know you're looking at a simulation without any real point of reference, so it loses some of it's dramatic effect.
And a video
Really fascinating photography trick.
Problem is in this context you already know you're looking at a simulation without any real point of reference, so it loses some of it's dramatic effect.
Wait a minute, I recognize a few of those houses. I think the long white one on the left is from The Sims 3, and the blue one in the foreground seems familiar, too.New screenshot,
Not sure what the blur is for..
I wonder... Simcity 4 and Sims 2 could connect and you could use the terraforming in Simcity 4 to make a neighborhood for Sims 2. Could it be you can import building designs from Sims 3 to Simcity? The homes look very The Sims 3 like in general, too.
Maybe not, but it wouldn't surprise me if the games can interact somehow.
Arozay
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CrankyKong
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Are there any legal ways to buy Sim CIty 3000?
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