If someone online is telling people they dropped the ball by not seeking out marketing for a product, it's usually a pretty bad sign about a lot of things for that product.
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UK: The Evil Within 2 sells 75% less than first game (physically) at launch
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If someone online is telling people they dropped the ball by not seeking out marketing for a product, it's usually a pretty bad sign about a lot of things for that product.
RedAssedApe
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The graphics thing is only subjective if youre blind and cant see. If you are I can concede that to you.
come on dude. I guess it could be a platformer like yooka laylee
Danjin44
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With that logic then you could say the same about InFAMOUS Second Son or Uncharted 4. The graphics looks much better but it doesn't do anything that PS3 couldn't do gameplay wise.
plagiarize
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Then you are wrong.
And anyway, why does it need to 'look like a brand new gameplay/visual experience' in order to sell more than a quarter of what the first game did at launch? What evidence do you have that this played any factor at all?
You have none. See how everyone is disagreeing with you? Maybe it's not because you said something subjective, maybe it's because you were wrong.
Here is The Evil Within running on Xbox 360.
Here is The Evil Within 2 running on PS4.
Duxxy3
Member
They were still the mass market consoles. IIRC the 360/PS3 numbers were around 160 million when TWE came out. PS4/XB1 are roughly half of that.
MaximusPayne
Member
Thank you for this post. Comes in to shit post and tries to defend said shit post.
I think TEW2 had threads that started a couple weeks before launch due to twitch and youtuber streams.
Moral Panic
Member
I'm on GAF pretty much every day and I didn't know this game was coming out until it was out. Seen 0 ads whilst browsing the internet, 0 ads on youtube and 0 ads in real life (buses etc)
I'm on GAF every day and I knew its release date as soon as the game was announced, and I haven't forgotten it since, with multiple threads popping up on here since then.
You're just not looking?
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Yeah, that's even worse because it is the enthusiasts, who would be in "the know" who are the bulk of sales, but rather "casual" gamers who only hear of games from marketing or word of mouth.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
These physical sales threads are always interesting but hard to really form a solid opinion on cause digital sales are much bigger now opposed to 2-3 years ago. I feel almost every game would appear to be underperforming if we constantly leave out the percentage of digital sales going forward.
Necron
Member
All these great games underperforming like Prey, Dishonored 2 and now The Evil Within 2. We'll see how well Wolfenstein 2 performs soon enough, I guess. If the next Doom is handled in a similar way it would just be depressing at that point. I really hope that the digital sales are higher...
Auroradawn
Member
Speaking about the subject here , Which is UK , the PS3/X360 combined only had 12K out of 65K that TEW made during the launch week , so that leaves us with 53K for PS4/X1/PC
HeresSomeWeapons
Member
You clearly don't understand how marketing works. It's not the consumer's job to seek out advertisements about the game, it's the publisher's job to put it in front of them.
AdventureRacing
Member
Nah. When a game sells less than a quarter of its predecessor you don't need to know digital sales to know it's a huge decline. I agree that with digital sales reaching so high that physical no longer tells the whole story but in cases like this it basically does. Also it's not like digital sales were non existent at the start of this gen. they've gone up but not enough to make up >50% drops at retail.
100%TrophyMaster
Member
But it's predecessor (TEW) came out on Tuesday. This released on a Friday and literally had one day to chart in one particular country. How can you compare the two when it's a weekly sales number? They shouldn't even be compared at this point
What are you trying to prove here?
I'm talking about MY perception of TEW2 which might explain the huge decline.
What are your «evidences» explaining that drop?
We're all speculating here, give me a break.
Anyway, the first released on a Tuesday apparently so comparison are meaningless at the moment.
Just saying the "game was a shitshow" isn't the same as saying "the game's performance was a shitshow"
This is actually a pretty decent point. While it's almost certainly still down from the first game, it may not be as awful as it appears.
- Ok
- It's not super obvious from the videos I've seen. I should be a potential customer but they failed to show me the unique features of this game. I don't know what's new about it. What is exciting about it?
- Being open-world (which I didn't know about) doesn't change the combat/stealth gameplay seen in RE4, TLOU already. It's not super exciting making people want to rush to buy it.
- The enemies are designed to be gross/weird. Much more than RE that are only zombies and mutant creatures caused by a bio hazard. It's a lot less mass appealing.
- The game isn't jaw dropping, its visuals don't have that next-gen graphics selling point IMO.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
They could have tried advertising it, that might have helped. Legit didnt know it was coming out until like two days prior. Obviously I wasnt following it super closely, but I was at least interested and I usually have a pretty decent grasp on the release schedule.
Stranger Things
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The only marketing I saw was on YouTube and other social media. Im a fan of the first game and I still wasn't aware of when the game was going to be released. To think of it the only marketing I saw was the game cover art and a few seconds gameplay trailer.
There is nothing about this game that looks like a 360 game. Graphically it's actually really good.
Why it dropped this much I can't say, I figure Bethesda didn't market it properly. They seem to have a problem with fucking up the launches of quality games recently.
plagiarize
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Performance tends to undermine gameplay and atmosphere, though maybe that's just me. Listen, I loved the game, but it was in a bad state on PC at launch, and I put it away until those patches came out. It plays *much* better than it did.
I'm not saying the hyperbole is fair, just not unfounded.
Astral Dog
Member
Evil Within 2 doesn't look like a 360 game its using a hugely upgraded engine called STEAM
Lolks better and has better performance than TEW1 and many, many 360 games
Lord of Ostia
Member
Wolfenstein 2 will be fine, it has loads of marketing and hype behind it, from both press and players.
It's kind of crazy how the two franchises have switched roles since 2014. Back then, no one cared about Wolfenstein, then it came out and really impressed people. Everyone was hyped for TEW as the next Mikami game and a return to survival horror, and it ended up very divisive.
3 years later and all the hype is for Wolfenstein 2, no one much cares about TEW2. Strange how these things happen!
Down to 76 now on PS4, although I expect the final number will continue to fluctuate as more reviews surface. Xbox One has a higher score than the PS4 version, but only a third of the reviews, so the sequel has only seen a significant improvement from Metacritic on the PC sku (68 for TEW 1 from 18 reviews vs. 81 TEW 2 with 13 reviews).
plagiarize
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WRT The Evil Within 2
Cause I've been researching this and I've seen people talking about no Pro support in here. This is from a few days ago:
https://bethesda.net/community/topic/110378/no-ps4-pro-support-no-buy/4
So there you go. It's coming. Just later.
Cause I've been researching this and I've seen people talking about no Pro support in here. This is from a few days ago:
https://bethesda.net/community/topic/110378/no-ps4-pro-support-no-buy/4
So there you go. It's coming. Just later.
Beerman462
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If people are skipping The Evil Within Two based on the first one, which I would have done if I hadn't forced myself to go back and finish it, they are missing out.
Other than the stuttering on PC driving me crazy it's a great game. I like the open map style so far. It's not as cheap with the one hit deaths, so far at least.
Other than the stuttering on PC driving me crazy it's a great game. I like the open map style so far. It's not as cheap with the one hit deaths, so far at least.
Valkerionseven
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I mean arn't physical sales down year after year, plus it being a sequel. Not soo surprised. Also the bare minimum ad campaign for this game.
Interested in the numbers across all regions when it drops everywhere though.
Interested in the numbers across all regions when it drops everywhere though.
RedAssedApe
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I thought the game had a fair amount of hype coming out of e3. I was actually way more hyped than I was with wolfenstein. So much so that I went on media black out. Disclaimer I ended up not buying it yet because of lack of pro support. Heh
Maybe they thought that was enough for the fans as they sure didnt seem to want to market it.
Depressing. Don't want to chicken little too hard when we got so many amazing SP games this year but I always worry about flops like this reinforcing the industry trend towards multiplayer GaaS. Well, I'm at least thankful this game was made, never would have expected a sequel to begin with.
Probably dead already. No growth from the sequel (in sales) and middling reviews. Doesn't seem worth the opportunity cost. Why not just sink that money into lootbox graphic design instead?
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I was severely disappointed by the first one. This one looks better, but I'm waiting on a very significant discount before taking the plunge.
Eh if they figure out a good way to turn it into a GaaS model there's hope.
Astral Dog
Member
Evil Within actually sold very well and had a sequel hook so it shouldn't have been that surprising
lots of games have sequel hooks...doesn't mean they'll actually get (or need) one
Astral Dog
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It was the best selling new horror ip in many years i think.
And in most of the cases they indeed end up having sequels