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Housemarque (Resogun) added PC due to console sale difficulties, talks future games
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Theslammer
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If they joined the umbrella, they're not simply going to stop publishing Housemarque games because they finance the studios as opposed to just publishing them. The way it is now, they get published, and they do get the goodies of advertising and money, but Sony could now stop publishing their games since they're not actually part of the umbrella. I feel it would be good for them if they were a part of it because it would provide a unique part of their line-up that none of the other studios do, and their games, though higher budget for what they are (and I'm happy there are), are not as costly as the AAA titles Sony publishes.
They already have a good relationship, and while not every developer under every publisher is a success story, you have studios like Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, and Sucker punch that are bigger and more successful now than 10 years ago, and you have studios like Bend that are bigger and moving into newer studios.
Again, it's not a guaranteed future for them, but neither is remaining independent and trying to promote your game yourselves. The reason I mention this for Housemarque is because of their long relationship with Sony and the unique games they provide in their published library.
Ivan
Member
You might be more precise that way, but the feel of the game is changed completely . They feel empty and weightless on the mouse. Unplayable for me personally.
Resistance and analog nature of the sticks really make these games enjoyable. You really feel the game mechanics.
Thay're called twin stick shooters for a reason.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
What umbrella are you talking about? Honest question.
Naughty Dog, Guerrilla and Sucker Punch are owned by Sony, because Sony choose to purchase and take over control of them, therefore making them first party studios. I don't think Sony approach Housemarque and offer to buy them at all, and Housemarque has got no control over anything if Sony doesn't want to make them first party.
Sad to hear that. Interested in all of Housemarque's games automatically now and it's essentially guaranteed I'll enjoy it anytime I pick it up.
Thought Sony would have picked them up actually, Resogun seemed quite a heavy hit on the PS4 launch and that would "fill a gap" in their library for twin stick shooters anyway?
I'm sure they'll end up fine anyway, haven't seen any real complaints for their games.
Thought Sony would have picked them up actually, Resogun seemed quite a heavy hit on the PS4 launch and that would "fill a gap" in their library for twin stick shooters anyway?
I'm sure they'll end up fine anyway, haven't seen any real complaints for their games.
Theslammer
Member
Sony Worldwide Studios as I said in the first post.
I know that Sony has to buy them, lol. That's the point I'm making. If they're able to get into that umbrella, I think it would be beneficial for them considering besides a couple of games, they've been a de facto WWS so far, but this would give them more security considering the flood of games on Steam and the unpredictability as to how gamers will react to pure digital games.
LordRaptor
Member
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
I thought you were asking why they didnt want to join the umbrella. Well guessing Sony figure its cheaper to just contract them instead of getting them on board.
I doubt that.
in addition, about indie games https://galyonk.in/on-indiepocalypse-what-is-really-killing-indie-games-3da3c3a1ea76
and this also:
Mostly the same on PC as well. SteamSpy data for 2016:
.. that is not a good example at all. Sure a 60 dollar made by 100s of people is going to make a ton of money.. it has to.
I think Stardew Valley is a perfect example of a small indie game making fat bank on PC. It sold a ton.. yet was also released on PS4 with little to no buzz at all. I'd love to see the sale differences.
Chronospherics
Member
Where did I say that? Dead Nation and Alienation under performed both critically AND commercially. Averaging less than 80 is not good enough to stand out within the digital market place, where there are 100s of games better than yours, and consumer attach rates suppose that each consumer buys no more than 10 games.
If each consumer buys less than a dozen games, and your game is worse than 100s of others, then why would they buy your game over others? A huge, and neglected component of why their most recent games have under performed is because the studio are not consistency delivering extremely high quality titles.
What other examples do you need? You can't ignore numbers.
Big budget games is way more popular than indies on PC.
IcyRhythms
Member
I doubt that.
in addition, about indie games https://galyonk.in/on-indiepocalypse-what-is-really-killing-indie-games-3da3c3a1ea76
and this also:
Mostly the same on PC as well. SteamSpy data for 2016:
I don't know what this proves.
Almost all of the well known platforms are dominated by the more popular games.(usually from third parties)
Indie devs put games their games on Steam, HB, GOG, and Origin to name a few...they'll find themselves in a much better position than just simply selling on Steam.
LordRaptor
Member
That is a revenue chart, so it automatically skews towards listing titles with a higher purchase price as generating more revenue, because 1 million sales of a $60 title will always generate more revenue than 5 million sales of a $10 title, but that doesn't mean that a million cpies sold is 'more popular' than 5 million copies sold.
Shai-Tan
Banned
Maybe Alienation was just not that good? Or the direction they chose for it wasn't as interesting as the trend towards roguelikes e.g. Enter the Gungeon has 700k+ players and Nuclear Throne has 500k+ only on Steam. Maybe Alienation would have been successful with its polish but considering all the other dual stick/arena type shooters I get recommended it seems like a star based economics with a winner take all element i.e. the few best games get most of the sales.
Well, it seems so, sadly
not for indie dev http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=860374
Though, It can be applied for any platform, including mobile.
charlequin
Banned
This is a number derived from super-open platforms where a low price of entry means huge numbers of people can enter with marginal products. It's extremely relevant to the question of your odds of success as a brand-new, 1-5 person indie startup, but not really relevant to the question of how a larger or more established dev will do or whether a platform is "healthy" for indie devs.
LordRaptor
Member
Meaningless without platform breakdown, because it is extremely likely the majority of respondents are in the mobile space where it is unusual for titles to be sold at all, with even profitable titles making revenue outside of the traditional sales model.