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Colbert
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(08-26-2017, 03:26 PM)
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WARNING!!

Originally Posted by dark10x

This thread is crazy indeed.

Original:

Originally Posted by DigitalFoundry

We've seen Rise of the Tomb Raider in action on Xbox One X - so we thought we'd put that knowledge to use in assessing the reveal trailer for the enhanced version of the game. John is your guide through this comparison.

UPDATE 26/8/17 2:00pm: Digital Foundry has returned from Gamescom and the first order of business is to take a good, hard look at the press assets Square-Enix has revealed for the Xbox One X version of Rise of the Tomb Raider, and to see how they compare with the existing versions of the game. John Linneman has compiled all of his findings into the video analysis below and we've also provided PS4 Pro and PC settings comparison shots to match Square's press images.

There are some interesting observations here - clearly, the top-end PC textures are incorporated into the Xbox One X version as expected (indeed, one shot even shows additional detail we couldn't replicate on PC). Additionally, other changes have been made: on the plus side, PureHair (aka TressFX) seems to get an upgrade, but there's a puzzling downgrade in depth of field rendering. We'll have more on this title as soon as we can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x77TOR9HC5Y

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Update on Update 30th Aug 14:00
Update 26th Aug 16:43:


There is an update on the article: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...s-over-ps4-pro

There was another update on Eurogamer to reflect the dynamic changes on the textures in the face comparison which I include in the OP.

Just some example screenshots including PC:




Update 26th Aug 18:27:

Some more info about the PC setting for the PC shots:



Update 26th Aug 19:10:

Confirmation what modes where compared in video and screenshot regarding the PS4.



Update 26th Aug 20:06:


Comparison is based on X1X native 4K, PS4 Pro 4K CB, PC highest setting!



Update 27th Aug 19:10:


Regarding the above face comparisons.

John Linnemann, DigitalFoundry:

Originally Posted by dark10x

Those faces aren't impacted by depth of field as the DoF effect is not very shallow in that scene to begin with. I thought it was motion blur at first but, looking closer at the footage frame by frame, that doesn't even seem to be the case.

and

Originally Posted by dark10x

Nobody downgraded anything. PC already includes higher res textures than PS4. Nixxes has simply created new assets once again, it would seem.

Wishmaster92
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(08-26-2017, 03:29 PM)
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I was looking forward to this.

edit:
From the high quality DF video:

Sometimes the difference is immediately apparent while others (during cutscenes it seems) they look really close. Maybe the cutscenes are dynamic res on xbox one x?




I resized to 1080p in photoshop.
Space_nut
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(08-26-2017, 03:29 PM)
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Xbox One X is a beast
Raide
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(08-26-2017, 03:31 PM)
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Funny to see games come out, get better for Pro and then get better again for 1X. Weird thought that some games will get patched again for some more life.
Harlequin
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(08-26-2017, 03:31 PM)
DF are using stuff from the Angel of Darkness soundtrack in this video. So good!
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(08-26-2017, 03:31 PM)
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Garrett Hawke
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(08-26-2017, 03:33 PM)
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indeed, one shot even shows additional detail we couldn't replicate on PC

fuck, please don't do this again. it is so annoying that the pc version of TR2013 never got the DE shit. for that game your options are either play it on pc with the frame rate and res you want without any of the improvements (there are a lot, besides lara's face which for many is take or leave) or an unstable 1080p"60" on PS4 with the improvements, or 1080p30/900p cutscenes on XB1.
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(08-26-2017, 03:35 PM)
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I guess this is my problem with these incremental consoles, not JUST X1X. This is the only time I can really tell the difference, in motion. They HAVE to be side by side, or else I would never know "it could be better."

Console gaming is getting weird.
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(08-26-2017, 03:36 PM)
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brawly
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(08-26-2017, 03:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by NucelarGen



Holy fuck
texhnolyze
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(08-26-2017, 03:38 PM)

Originally Posted by NucelarGen

Is this for real?

Pro looks like a regular PS4 version.
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(08-26-2017, 03:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by NucelarGen



Dat detail
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(08-26-2017, 03:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Give War A Chance

I guess this is my problem with these incremental consoles, not JUST X1X. This is the only time I can really tell the difference, in motion. They HAVE to be side by side, or else I would never know "it could be better."

Console gaming is getting weird.

Going to agree. I was all in for the PS4 Pro when it launched, bought one because I wanted to play FFXV and Nioh in as high a quality and performance possible but outside of that, I'm not really getting seeing the graphical benefits, as much as I appreciate they fantastic IQ in titles like Horizon.

Looking at this comparison, the differences seem so minor in motion and it speaks volumes that they're only really noticeable at 50% speed. Very recently jumped on the PC gaming bandwagon and that's impressing more a lot more than this. A certainly don't see performance gains worth shelling out an extra $500. I have to ask though, why does the PS4 Pro version look so smeared and blurry in comparison in some parts? Madness.
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(08-26-2017, 03:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by texhnolyze

Is this for real?

Pro looks like a regular PS4 version.

Yes. It's real. Captured directly from a PS4 Pro at 2160p.

Looking at this comparison, the differences seem so minor in motion and it speaks volumes that they're only really noticeable at 50% speed.

The reason for 50% is due more to the lack of available footage (only had that short trailer to work from).

Not everyone is going to find these upgrades worthwhile, however, but it's quite obvious to the trained eye.
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(08-26-2017, 03:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Raide

Funny to see games come out, get better for Pro and then get better again for 1X. Weird thought that some games will get patched again for some more life.

My only qualm is now owning games on two consoles But waiting for the X for the "better" experience. 😂
Outrun
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(08-26-2017, 03:40 PM)
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Looks great on the Pro

Looks better on the X.
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(08-26-2017, 03:41 PM)
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Colbert
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(08-26-2017, 03:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by brawly

Holy fuck

Holy cow!
Always-honest
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(08-26-2017, 03:42 PM)
Too sharp.
I hope they bring back some of that depth of field.

Anyway, looks great!
Tom Penny
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(08-26-2017, 03:44 PM)
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How are the graphics in new games?
MosquitoSmasher
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(08-26-2017, 03:45 PM)
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In the screens posted here the difference is definitely noticeable and honestly this is what you'd be expecting from a significantly more powerful system. It however always remains to be seen if it happens and it sure does. I hope more developers will follow suit.
GearFourth
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(08-26-2017, 03:46 PM)

Originally Posted by texhnolyze

Is this for real?

Pro looks like a standard PS4 version.

4k mode or 60fps mode on Pro is standard PS4 version
1080p mode on Pro is enhanced visuals version
DF used 4k standard PS4 mode
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(08-26-2017, 03:46 PM)
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Yes xox looks better but dont forget they have an extra year to do this.
Lets compare games that release simultaneously on both for a more fair comparison.

But that 12gb ram will make for better textures in most to all games.
Still not really convinced that the xox is for me, but if moat multiplatform show differences like this then even on my 1080p tv it may be worth it.
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Bgamer90
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Man. Bigger upgrade than I expected. Don't know when I'll have the time to go back to this game though. Looks great.
benicillin
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(08-26-2017, 03:49 PM)
Lol I bought this game on Xbox One and never played it, then I bought it on PS4 Pro so I could play the better version and still haven't played it, by the time I get around to it I'm gonna end up playing my original copy on Xbox for the best version.
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(08-26-2017, 03:50 PM)
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Wow that XB1X version looks like it offers a great step up from the PS4Pro.
Syrus
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(08-26-2017, 03:50 PM)

Originally Posted by NucelarGen




Omg yes
Dee Dah Dave
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(08-26-2017, 03:50 PM)
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It's awesome that the Scorpio should be getting both resolution upgrades AND textures / graphics. Hopefully this is the case with most 3rd party games.
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Originally Posted by NucelarGen



damn, the need to protect her conveys in a cleaner way on the 1x
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(08-26-2017, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by GifGafIsTheBestGaf

damn, the need to protect her conveys in a cleaner way on the 1x

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Colbert
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(08-26-2017, 03:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dee Dah Dave

It's awesome that the Scorpio should be getting both resolution upgrades AND textures / graphics. Hopefully this is the case with most 3rd party games.

More and faster memory! Devs will make use of it!
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(08-26-2017, 03:51 PM)
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the top-end PC textures are incorporated into the Xbox One X version as expected (indeed, one shot even shows additional detail we couldn't replicate on PC)

PC gamers: RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

im a pc gamer pls no h8
Theorry
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(08-26-2017, 03:52 PM)
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Why did i scroll down to the comment section. :(
brawly
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(08-26-2017, 03:52 PM)
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I'm shook. I know this is only one comparison but if this is the standard I'm there day one.
Renekton
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(08-26-2017, 03:52 PM)
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This is a huge difference!

XoX looking good here
MaulerX
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(08-26-2017, 03:53 PM)
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Beast mode activated. Can't wait to get my grubby hand on this console. I already marked an X on the spot in my entertainment center where it's supposed to go.
bryanee
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(08-26-2017, 03:53 PM)
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Nice upgrade, not enough to justify me spending 450 when I have the Pro though. Interested in seeing newer game comparisons this fall.
RoKKeR
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(08-26-2017, 03:53 PM)
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Looking great, and hoping that DF has many more of these leading up to the launch.

Would love a comparison with the OG Xbox One version too.
jett
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I wonder how big is the patch with dem 4K textures gonna be.

RotR on PS4 uses the same texture quality for Pro and regular, I guess.
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(08-26-2017, 03:54 PM)
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Aw yeah, lookin' good. The textures are the first thing that stand out to me.

Quite a bit bigger step-up than I imagined.
Syrus
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(08-26-2017, 03:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Always-honest

Too sharp.
I hope they bring back some of that depth of field.

Anyway, looks great!


Na fuck depth of field. I dont need blur in my games
FaustusMD
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(08-26-2017, 03:55 PM)
Amazing
cmChimera
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(08-26-2017, 03:56 PM)
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So this runs at 4k 30fps on XBO X?
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(08-26-2017, 03:56 PM)

Originally Posted by NucelarGen



Welp, damn
Theorry
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(08-26-2017, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by cmChimera

So this runs at 4k 30fps on XBO X?

3 versions

4k native 30
4K CB with even more extra details and 30
1080p with 60fps.
Colbert
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(08-26-2017, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Theorry

Why did i scroll down to the comment section. :(

This guy on the YT comment section nailed it!



toxic on youtube!
spannicus
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(08-26-2017, 03:58 PM)
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Welp there it is.
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(08-26-2017, 03:58 PM)
Looks amazing ... from here.

But I don't know how will it be in front of my tv. Some games
Looks already too sharp almost. This one , Titanfall 2 for exemple or wipeout. Not sure if I'll see any difference 2 meters away from my 65" oled.

Well still wants it. I have it on Pro. It I played only 30".

Just need to find it around 10-15 to double dip
blly155
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(08-26-2017, 03:59 PM)
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it's almost as though one of them is considerably more powerful than the other.

PS4 pro looks good but of course XB1X is going to look better.

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