• Register
  • TOS
  • Privacy
  • @NeoGAF
  • Like

ButteryPie
Junior Member
(10-12-2017, 10:15 PM)
ButteryPie's Avatar

Originally Posted by Spaced Harrier

Remember it's not Piracy, because the the contents in a lootbox aren't worth anything and can't be resold, which is why lootboxes arent't gambling apparently.

;)

That's not why they're not gambling.


On topic, this doesnt seem like a big deal. I would be surprised if WB actually took any action.
NullPointer
#INTESTINAL
(10-12-2017, 10:18 PM)
NullPointer's Avatar
Good.

I'll still avoid these games but that's nice to know.
shimon
Member
(10-12-2017, 10:27 PM)
shimon's Avatar

Originally Posted by thehillissilent

No. These trainers are not for online use. If you try to modify the Gold amount, which can be bought with real money, it will reset to the actual amount upon connecting to their server infrastructure. This trainer can be used for Mirian silver currency only which is only earned by playing the game.

I'm not talking about trainers...Someone actually accessed Market which is online only and can buy loot boxes with Gold which you can only do online.

Originally Posted by BernardoOne

I think he might be talking about Steam006 (dude known for cracking Denuvo in Life is Strange Before the Storm). He's currently trying to break the protection on the gold. He's still testing it though, and even then he says he might not release it publicly.

Bingo.
-shadow-
Member
(10-12-2017, 10:27 PM)
-shadow-'s Avatar

Originally Posted by Spaced Harrier

Remember it's not Piracy, because the the contents in a lootbox aren't worth anything and can't be resold, which is why lootboxes arent't gambling apparently.

;)

I lol'd and I love it!
Pejo
Member
(10-12-2017, 10:40 PM)
Pejo's Avatar

Originally Posted by Spaced Harrier

Remember it's not Piracy, because the the contents in a lootbox aren't worth anything and can't be resold, which is why lootboxes arent't gambling apparently.

;)

I don't often quote things that have already been quoted a thousand times in a thread, but in the recent news about ESRB and PEGI siding with publishers, this just feels so right.
texhnolyze
Member
(10-12-2017, 11:20 PM)
texhnolyze's Avatar

Originally Posted by WaterAstro

So if you want to protest the loot crates, but still support the game itself, you buy the game and pirate it to cheat? I guess. lol

You don't need to pirate the game to cheat.

Originally Posted by liezryou

There was a 44mb patch just released... god dammit if this post caused a patch for this...

I think it was just a hotfix.

The only way for the publisher to overcome this is by making the game full online, which won't happen at least until the next game.
Durante
Come on down to Durante's drivethru PC port fixes. 15 minutes or less. Yelp: ★★★★★

Fixed Souls, Deadly Premonition, Lightning Returns, Umihara Kawase, Symphonia, Little King's Story, PhD, likes mimosas.
(10-12-2017, 11:27 PM)
Durante's Avatar

Originally Posted by dstarMDA

That's definitely piracy.

What is piracy? Usually, when people say it, they don't actually mean piracy, they mean copyright infringement. Whose copyright is being infringed upon in this case, and how?

The only thing I can see is a shrinkwrap EULA being violated, but I'm not even sure if that can actually be enforced in many countries.
test_account
XP-39C˛
(10-12-2017, 11:33 PM)
test_account's Avatar
Looks like normal single player cheating to me, nothing out of the ordinary and i dont see any problems with that.
Z3M0G
Member
(10-12-2017, 11:38 PM)
Z3M0G's Avatar

Originally Posted by Kyoufu

Time to force online connections on players to prevent loot box cheats.

Im SHOCKED if the game doesnt actually do this from day 1... very dumb if true...
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
(10-13-2017, 12:05 AM)
Lashley's Avatar
Tempted to get a cheathappens sub but mrantifun is so good and also free
Glass Shark
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:08 AM)
Glass Shark's Avatar

Originally Posted by test_account

Looks like normal single player cheating to me, nothing out of the ordinary and i dont see any problems with that.

Absolutely. People that think this is piracy are far worse for this industry than loot boxes.
jwhit28
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:08 AM)
jwhit28's Avatar

Originally Posted by Durante

What is piracy? Usually, when people say it, they don't actually mean piracy, they mean copyright infringement. Whose copyright is being infringed upon in this case, and how?

The only thing I can see is a shrinkwrap EULA being violated, but I'm not even sure if that can actually be enforced in many countries.

Well Epic is trying. It seems they are going with the Copyright Infringement angle. Maybe being a multiplayer product makes it different?

https://torrentfreak.com/epic-sues-f...gement-171012/
Audioboxer
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:13 AM)
Audioboxer's Avatar

Originally Posted by jwhit28

Well Epic is trying. It seems they are going with the Copyright Infringement angle. Maybe being a multiplayer product makes it different?

https://torrentfreak.com/epic-sues-f...gement-171012/

Well, shit. Let's hope those cases get thrown out

The two alleged cheaters are identified as Mr. Broom and Mr. Vraspir. Both are accused of violating Fortnite’s terms of service and EULA by cheating. This involves modifying and changing the game’s code, committing copyright infringement in the process.

“The software that Defendant uses to cheat infringes Epic’s copyrights in the game and breaches the terms of the agreements to which Defendant agreed in order to have access to the game,” the company notes.

Permanently banning accounts from MP for cheating? Fine. Getting a court to agree its copyright infringement? Not so fine.

WB looking on and praying.
RPGam3r
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:14 AM)
RPGam3r's Avatar
Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.
jwhit28
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:16 AM)
jwhit28's Avatar

Originally Posted by RPGam3r

Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.

They have no value. Should I feel guilty for using the Missingno trick to level up my Pokemon to 99 or getting glitched Mews?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_...f_America,_Inc.
Last edited by jwhit28; 10-13-2017 at 12:23 AM.
Disgraced
(10-13-2017, 12:17 AM)
Disgraced's Avatar

Originally Posted by RPGam3r

Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.

So whose are you wearing, convenient convictor?
Cisce
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:17 AM)
Cisce's Avatar

Originally Posted by RPGam3r

Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.

They’re worth nothing. If WB really cared they would have made the game online only.
brawly
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:18 AM)
brawly's Avatar

Originally Posted by RPGam3r

Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.

Now I've seen it all.
RPGam3r
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:20 AM)
RPGam3r's Avatar

Originally Posted by Disgraced

So whose are you wearing, convenient convictor?

My own, calling it as I see it. Clicked some buttons based on how many back to back hits I got, which I sort of expected.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
(10-13-2017, 12:21 AM)
Lashley's Avatar

Originally Posted by RPGam3r

Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.

😂😂😂

I honestly don’t see this as piracy but each to their own
Duchess O'Death
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:27 AM)
Duchess O'Death's Avatar
I don't see how this is fun. Most of the fun I'm having with the game is while hunting down orcs. Get unlimited free legendary orcs? Might as well not play the game.
ParityClaws
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:31 AM)
ParityClaws's Avatar

Originally Posted by Duchess O'Death

I don't see how this is fun. Most of the fun I'm having with the game is while hunting down orcs. Get unlimited free legendary orcs? Might as well not play the game.

The issue appears to come towards the end of the game, where in order to get the 'true' ending, you need to grind for a long time in order to get it, or buy loot boxes. At least that's how I understand it.
BernardoOne
For you.
(10-13-2017, 12:38 AM)
BernardoOne's Avatar

Originally Posted by RPGam3r

Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.

You literally can't pay for the lootboxes mentioned in this thread.

Originally Posted by Cisce

They’re worth nothing. If WB really cared they would have made the game online only.

They indeed literally worth nothing. Like, literally. These boxes cannot be aqquired with real money.

People keep posting in this thread not realizing this is about the free crates.

Originally Posted by ParityClaws

The issue appears to come towards the end of the game, where in order to get the 'true' ending, you need to grind for a long time in order to get it, or buy loot boxes. At least that's how I understand it.

The "true ending" rumour is false.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:48 AM)
Mr. Nice_Guy's Avatar

Originally Posted by Spaced Harrier

Remember it's not Piracy, because the the contents in a lootbox aren't worth anything and can't be resold, which is why lootboxes arent't gambling apparently.

;)

Well said lol
Glass Shark
Member
(10-13-2017, 12:51 AM)
Glass Shark's Avatar

Originally Posted by RPGam3r

Some true colors shining through on this thread. The big bad loot boxes are ok to take without payment bc "I don't like them." Thats some convenient convictions.

I use Cheat Engine in pretty much every single player PC game I play in some capacity. It only affects me. Not sure why that's a big deal.
NullPointer
#INTESTINAL
(10-13-2017, 01:13 AM)
NullPointer's Avatar

Originally Posted by BernardoOne

The "true ending" rumour is false.

Its not a rumor. Its the real ending.
Dre_G_Writer
Member
(10-13-2017, 01:18 AM)
Dre_G_Writer's Avatar
This same thing is on Mass Andromeda multiplayer loot boxes. If you know where to look on the net, cheat engine will hook you up for the low low.
thehillissilent
Member
(10-13-2017, 01:27 AM)
thehillissilent's Avatar

Originally Posted by Glass Shark

I use Cheat Engine in pretty much every single player PC game I play in some capacity. It only affects me. Not sure why that's a big deal.

Pretty much. Cheating in an MP mode is highly looked down upon in the cheating community. I should play an SP game how I want to play it.
Last edited by thehillissilent; 10-13-2017 at 01:30 AM.
Muskieratboi
Member
(10-13-2017, 01:29 AM)
Muskieratboi's Avatar
As I mentioned. Play till endgame, cut net connection, load up CheatEngine. Done.
BernardoOne
For you.
(10-13-2017, 01:29 AM)
BernardoOne's Avatar

Originally Posted by NullPointer

Its not a rumor. Its the real ending.

It's the only ending.
Brannon
Ladies! On my signal,
unleash boobs.
(10-13-2017, 01:44 AM)
Brannon's Avatar
Watch the real ending online, mwahahahaha
Rellik
Member
(10-13-2017, 01:52 AM)
Rellik's Avatar

Originally Posted by Glass Shark

I use Cheat Engine in pretty much every single player PC game I play in some capacity. It only affects me. Not sure why that's a big deal.

You dirty pirate. I don't know how you can live with yourself.

Cheat Engine and PS4 Save Wizard are great
NullPointer
#INTESTINAL
(10-13-2017, 01:53 AM)
NullPointer's Avatar

Originally Posted by BernardoOne

It's the only ending.

Its been described by Monolith as a bonus ending for completionists and a true ending by reviewers and even a secret ending.

But you're right, it is the only real ending.
Agent_Carnage
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:07 AM)
Agent_Carnage's Avatar
I dont see the problem its like entering a cheat code.
texhnolyze
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:16 AM)
texhnolyze's Avatar

Originally Posted by BernardoOne

You literally can't pay for the lootboxes mentioned in this thread.

The poster certainly hasn't played the game yet or have no interest in the first place.
Maintenance
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:21 AM)
Maintenance's Avatar
Haha, oh wow. Get fucked WB.
Floody
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:29 AM)
Floody's Avatar
If they do anything it'll probably just be resetting people who cheated. Banning people for cheating in a single player game would just be terrible PR.

If I was them I'd just add a really strong Orc killer to the game that hunts your cheated Orcs. But I like when companies have fun with cheating, instead of just banning/resetting people.
Parfait
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:30 AM)
Parfait's Avatar

Originally Posted by Spaced Harrier

Remember it's not Piracy, because the the contents in a lootbox aren't worth anything and can't be resold, which is why lootboxes arent't gambling apparently.

;)

texhnolyze
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:37 AM)
texhnolyze's Avatar

Originally Posted by Floody

If they do anything it'll probably just be resetting people who cheated. Banning people for cheating in a single player game would just be terrible PR.

If I was them I'd just add a really strong Orc killer to the game that hunts your cheated Orcs. But I like when companies have fun with cheating, instead of just banning/resetting people.

Sounds like too much work. My bet is that they won't do anything.
RiccochetJ
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:40 AM)
RiccochetJ's Avatar
Is there a chance of getting legendary items/followers from silver chests? I haven't touched the market yet in this game other than to open up the ones I've gotten from the online vendettas.

If there is, I wonder if the loot pool is different.

I don't have a problem with it. If anything people can spruce up their fortress defense a bit quicker than me.
falcs
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:44 AM)
falcs's Avatar
Whelp... guess the next shitty thing publishers are going to force on us is always online in order to combat this.
It's just a matter of time.
Floody
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:45 AM)
Floody's Avatar

Originally Posted by texhnolyze

Sounds like too much work. My bet is that they won't do anything.


Yeah, can definitely see that too.
If I had a say though, Mr. Orcy would be coming for you.
OriginalPoe
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:46 AM)
OriginalPoe's Avatar
Um hey everyone I'm really worried the games police are going to come and take me away if I use something to add fake money to a videogame I bought.

Will everything be okay?
Lylo
Member
(10-13-2017, 02:49 AM)
Cheaters doing God's work.
Curious Puppy
Junior Member
(10-13-2017, 02:56 AM)
Curious Puppy's Avatar

Originally Posted by Spaced Harrier

Remember it's not Piracy, because the the contents in a lootbox aren't worth anything and can't be resold, which is why lootboxes arent't gambling apparently.

;)

Came here to post this.

If this is classified as piracy, by definition lootboxes have to be classified as gambling.
ramuh
Member
(10-13-2017, 03:25 AM)
ramuh's Avatar
Thank you all that shared this. :)
diaspora
Member
(10-13-2017, 03:33 AM)
diaspora's Avatar

Originally Posted by StereoVsn

That's the peasant "silver" lootboxes. For endgame grind you need "gold" lootboxes which can only be purchased with real money.

For now
Sohaim
Member
(10-13-2017, 03:37 AM)
Sohaim's Avatar

Originally Posted by texhnolyze

http://www.pcgamer.com/shadow-of-war-loot-box-cheat/
http://wccftech.com/unlimited-shadow...tboxes-cheats/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/10/...ted-loot-boxes
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/12/m...ith-cheat-app/
http://n4g.com/news/2111577/you-may-...through-cheats

i get the feeling that this is actually bad and that WB will force Monolith to ban people or come up with something else to punish players, as for some of the Gaffers on this thread, i simply cannot believe their posts, how can cheating in SP be considered piracy? its a Single Player game on PC, cheating has been a thing since FOREVER on SP games, so if i managed to edit my Orcs or Inventory that is a crime???? smh.
7DollarHagane
Member
(10-13-2017, 03:37 AM)
7DollarHagane's Avatar

Originally Posted by Curious Puppy

Came here to post this.

If this is classified as piracy, by definition lootboxes have to be classified as gambling.

There is literally no correlation between this being piracy and loot boxes being gambling..

Character skin packs in street fighter 5 also have no monetary value and cannot be resold. Are they also gambling?

I'm ok with this anyway. If the game can be cheated into giving you the good items have at it. If the publisher really wants to try to sell items they should also have to secure it in game.

Thread Tools