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Septic360
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(10-12-2017, 06:41 PM)

"We talk to Sony all the time. With Minecraft on PlayStation, we have to be one of the biggest games on their platform in terms of sales and gameplay," Spencer said. "Same with Nintendo. The relationship with Nintendo on this front has been strong. They've been great supporters and we continue to collaborate with them. But I think Sony's view is different. They should talk about what their view is..."

"I have a real struggle making comments about their motivation or timelines. I know there is a certain view that says if my friends have this console, they can't play with people who buy another console. That's a reason they go buy my console,"

"I think people look at [cross-play] and say is it better for gamers. If it's better for gamers, I have a hard time thinking why we shouldn't go do this, especially when you're trying to make the gaming business a bigger business; grow it, get more games, create more opportunity,"

"Especially in the indie space, actually. If you're creating an online indie game and you're going to create five [shards] of your game--the Steam version, Xbox Live on PC, Xbox version, the PlayStation version, the Switch version creates hard matchmaking scenarios. We should help developers, not make their lives more difficult."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xb.../1100-6453994/


Think of the children if old
RoyalFool
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(10-12-2017, 06:42 PM)
They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.
Gaspard
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(10-12-2017, 06:42 PM)
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Stop thinking of the children you sickos
Nibel
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(10-12-2017, 06:42 PM)
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Yup, confirms my suspicion: Phil Spencer hates children and doesn't care what happens to them

No wonder they have a bad child-friendly game output
RumbleHumble
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(10-12-2017, 06:42 PM)
Ha! Only if Sony wants to deal with more people rightfully calling them out on their shit.
Blam
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(10-12-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gaspard

Stop thinking of the children you sickos

Its disgusting to see all this children talk in the Industry. Bleh.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(10-12-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Spencer, forget this stance and move on with your plan. Sony ain't talking shit, and folks need to stop asking him the same 4 questions.
sangreal
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(10-12-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

No, that is the excuse fans made up

Sony said it was for the children

but way to try to turn this thread into 'xbox has no games'. This topic has literally nothing to do with exclusives. The exact opposite
TripleBee
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(10-12-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

So how come Rocket League isn't crossplay ? It doesn't require an xbox live login.
Dark Cloud
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(10-12-2017, 06:43 PM)
Did Phil get asked about this AGAIN? It's like MS can't stop reminding us how they're the good guys every couple weeks on this.
Gaenor
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(10-12-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

Isnít that for Minecraft only ?
Blam
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(10-12-2017, 06:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by TripleBee

So how come Rocket League isn't crossplay ? It doesn't require an xbox live login.

Or Fortnite. We've already seen that you don't even need to login to get crossplay just if you also want cross saving..


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Originally Posted by Complicated

Executive of console manufacturer fights for consumer rights to make all games better for consumers and developers... consumers tell him to give up. Way to go guys.

I mean seriously I want this not for Minecraft and I don't care if Sony doesn't want to do it.

I want this so every game that is able to be crossplay becomes crossplay. This isn't about Minecraft. This is about every multi-platform game that can become crossplay to be cross play this is about, Minecraft, Rocket League, Fortnite, and more to come. The more games become easier to be cross-platform they will continue to want crossplay.

Stop thinking this is only about Minecraft. It's not.

Cerium
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(10-12-2017, 06:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

Please provide this phantom quote.

I'll wait.
perfectsil
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(10-12-2017, 06:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.
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No they didnít, who from Sony said this? Citation please
Uno Venova
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(10-12-2017, 06:45 PM)
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They already did officially.
wwm0nkey
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(10-12-2017, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

Rocket League doesn't require an XBL login
Shil Pencer
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(10-12-2017, 06:45 PM)

Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

Joke Post?
Rellik
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(10-12-2017, 06:45 PM)
We know Sony's view. It's #FuckThePlayers
Chris1
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(10-12-2017, 06:45 PM)

Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

You mean like rocket league and gwent both games ready to flick the switch use Xbox live account. No that's just a dumb excuse just like the children crap. Infact I'm not even sure even sony has said this, pretty sure it's just fanboys trying to protect their beloved company

Only Minecraft requires a Microsoft account because they own the game it's quite logical. They're hardly going to use EA or someone else's account system for a game they own.
tiredheadcrab
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(10-12-2017, 06:46 PM)
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Sony's official position is "Think of the children"
Septic360
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(10-12-2017, 06:46 PM)

Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually open some new first party studios and stops moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse in the their fort.

No they haven't. And Rocket League, Ark and Fortnite's devs dont' require Xbox Live. So that requirement is BS just because Minecraft, a MS owned IP requires it.

Cross play is good for gamers. I don't get the mental gymnastics people employ to protect their beloved company regarding a move that benefits all us gamers.
JetSetRadio
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(10-12-2017, 06:46 PM)
This is getting a bit pathetic. No they don't want it Phil.
Jumeira
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(10-12-2017, 06:46 PM)

Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

You've been mislead on every point youve made.

Also, he has signed new games as we found out, he was asked a question about this issue, and you seem to be disturbed by Sony being called out sensibly? He just said, "what is your view", well... what is it?

All MS owned games will require XBL, but id imagine its like how some sites allow you to log on with your Google or Facebook account, its most likely a session layer, ability to integrate with XBL just because its probably what all external parties use...but you seem to be stuck with just the words rather then the assumed workings. I mean, this fairly common backend negotiation that takes place with most services.
Eggbok
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(10-12-2017, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

So what about when Epic turned on crossplay for Fortnite?
Not Drake
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(10-12-2017, 06:46 PM)
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"Especially in the indie space, actually. If you're creating an online indie game and you're going to create five [shards] of your game--the Steam version, Xbox Live on PC, Xbox version, the PlayStation version, the Switch version creates hard matchmaking scenarios. We should help developers, not make their lives more difficult."

Does every single online game that's available on both Steam and W10 Store supports cross-play between these two PC storefronts? I hope I'm not misunderstood. This is not an attempt to look for excuses for anyone. Sony's stance is batshit crazy from a consumer standpoint. I'm just genuinely curious.
jonscrambler
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(10-12-2017, 06:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

Sony ain't talking shit

why not? I sure hope the press keep asking til they say something
Apathy
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(10-12-2017, 06:47 PM)
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I mean I don't want to put out the obvious solution to Phil if he really wants it to happen, why doesn't Microsoft just over to build the whole thing and let Sony run it, let people make sony accounts connect to their stuff and that's it if Phil really wants cross play to happen. Oh, wait.
wwm0nkey
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(10-12-2017, 06:47 PM)
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A bit off-topic, but I wonder what else Nintendo and MS might collaborate on. MS made games for the GBA before after they bought Rare, wonder if we will see stuff like that since they seem to be best friends right now lol
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(10-12-2017, 06:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by jonscrambler

why not? I sure hope the press keep asking til they say something

They need to press Sony, not Phil.
Peltz
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(10-12-2017, 06:48 PM)
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Their stance is that they want you to buy a PS4 to play with PS4 players. That's really all it comes down to.

It's money thing.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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(10-12-2017, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by wwm0nkey

A bit off-topic, but I wonder what else Nintendo and MS might collaborate on. MS made games for the GBA before after they bought Rare, wonder if we will see stuff like that since they seem to be best friends right now lol

Metroid x Halo.
Bsigg12
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(10-12-2017, 06:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

Rocket League? Fortnite?
Hatefilled Vengeance
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(10-12-2017, 06:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Rellik

We know Sony's view. It's #FuckThePlayers

Basically.

Maybe the press should be asking this to Sony instead of asking Phil over and over.
TripleBee
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(10-12-2017, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Not Drake

Does every single online game that's available on both Steam and W10 Store supports cross-play between these two PC storefronts? I hope I'm not misunderstood. This is not an attempt to look for excuses for anyone. Sony's stance is batshit crazy from a consumer standpoint. I'm just genuinely curious.

No. But the newer ones do.

They've seemingly opened the door recently to allow crossplay for whatever company wants to implement it.
serenewarfare
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(10-12-2017, 06:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Apathy

I mean I don't want to put out the obvious solution to Phil if he really wants it to happen, why doesn't Microsoft just over to build the whole thing and let Sony run it, let people make sony accounts connect to their stuff and that's it if Phil really wants cross play to happen. Oh, wait.

Again, this is a dumb argument because Rocket League doesn't require any Microsoft accounts and that still doesn't crossplay between the two consoles.
gogosox82
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(10-12-2017, 06:49 PM)
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Didn't Sony already give their stance? Some bs reason about kids wasn't it?
Huge Succeeded
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(10-12-2017, 06:50 PM)
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but if papa says something, then it becomes that much harder for us to invent our own stand-in logic for which our only real defense is literally just repeating 'Well we just don't know'
shandy706
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(10-12-2017, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I'd love to play cross platform with my daughters.
InsaneTiger
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(10-12-2017, 06:50 PM)
Sony already made it known.
TripleBee
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Originally Posted by Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

They need to press Sony, not Phil.

That would probably require Sony higher ups actually doing interviews on a regular basis.
Boke1879
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(10-12-2017, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hatefilled Vengeance

Basically.

Maybe the press should be asking this to Sony instead of asking Phil over and over.

They've asked Sony and Sony has responded. Their reasoning is shit, but they have responded.

I don't know why Phil continues to answer. Just move on. Because clearly this isn't a topic that's gaining a lot of traction or most gamers really care about.
potatohead
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(10-12-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

It's easier for him to complain. He's a true American.
sangreal
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(10-12-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Peltz

Their stance is that they want you to buy a PS4 to play with PS4 players. That's really all it comes down to.

It's money thing.

which is the guess Phil Spencer made in this interview, but his point is that he shouldn't be speaking for Sony

Originally Posted by Boke1879

They've asked Sony and Sony has responded. Their reasoning is shit, but they have responded.

I don't know why Phil continues to answer. Just move on. Because clearly this isn't a topic that's gaining a lot of traction or most gamers really care about.

because they keep asking him
jonscrambler
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(10-12-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Not Drake

Does every single online game that's available on both Steam and W10 Store supports cross-play between these two PC storefronts?

no, but that's because some games don't support it, not because a storefront is not allowing it
Cerium
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(10-12-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by wwm0nkey

A bit off-topic, but I wonder what else Nintendo and MS might collaborate on. MS made games for the GBA before after they bought Rare, wonder if we will see stuff like that since they seem to be best friends right now lol

I wouldn't call it friendship, they just see mutual benefit in pushing crossplay. Devs like it, players like it, and it adds longevity to multiplayer.
Ridley327
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(10-12-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by gogosox82

Didn't Sony already give their stance? Some bs reason about kids wasn't it?

Yes, and they immediately got called out on it when an interviewer brought up Nintendo being fine with cross-play and being far more concerned about parental controls than Sony.
Leafhopper
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(10-12-2017, 06:51 PM)

Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

You had a point here, although inaccurate.

Originally Posted by RoyalFool

How bout this guy does his job and actually opens some new first party studios, rather than moaning that they are not letting the trojan horse into their fort.

Then you went and did this.
Wedzi
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(10-12-2017, 06:51 PM)
Surprised this wasn't a tweet.
Huge Succeeded
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Originally Posted by RoyalFool

They have, they said if it requires an xbox live account to play on a PS4 then they are noping the fuck out of it.

#1 - Minecraft is the only game which requires a Microsoft account to enable crossplay functionality
#2 - Go ahead and link me to where somebody at Sony actually said that.
hemo memo
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(10-12-2017, 06:52 PM)
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Same with Nintendo. The relationship with Nintendo on this front has been strong. They've been great supporters and we continue to collaborate with them. But I think Sony's view is different. They should talk about what their view is

What is this opposite time line?

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