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Nirolak
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(10-12-2017, 11:34 PM)
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You will remember him best as a Lead Writer on Jade Empire, then as one of the three Lead Designers on Dragon Age: Origins, and then he effectively became Creative Director for the entire series afterwards.

He's one of the people you always saw in interviews along with Mark Darrah (who was the Executive Producer, which on EA's biggest games, is often akin to a Game Director roll as well).



Source: https://twitter.com/Mike_Laidlaw/sta...88012119826432

Edit:

So it is worth noting that I can't find any of the Dragon Age Franchise jobs on BioWare's job page anymore. Not 100% confirmed Dragon Age 4 is canceled, but there is reason to be suspicious.

Edit 2:

Apparently Dragon Age is still on: https://mobile.twitter.com/BioMarkDa...01537600987136
CrichtonKicks
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(10-12-2017, 11:36 PM)
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Holy crap, as a Dragon Age fan, this is pretty huge. Kind of worried about DA4 now.
bluexy
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(10-12-2017, 11:36 PM)
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Whoa now. Does this mean that the Dragon Age thing Laidlaw was hyping in June isn't going to be anymore? I can't imagine him leaving if there was an active DA project still going on.

Edit: Ah, got ahead of myself. Gotta say Laidlaw is a legend. Hard to believe he's leaving BioWare and I really do wish him the best. Hope he's not done with games. I'll follow him to his next project, for sure.
Mezoly
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(10-12-2017, 11:37 PM)
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Wow! He was occasionally tweeting about Dragon Age 4 as well!
Heckler456
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(10-12-2017, 11:37 PM)
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Oh shit! DA4's gotta be in early production by now right? I wonder what this says about that. Did he lay the foundation, or did they hit a roadblock and decided to go a different way after what happened with ME:A?

Crazy stuff. I liked the games he worked on, so he's definitely be missed on my end.
ChaosSmurf
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(10-12-2017, 11:37 PM)

"As I've jokingly said, I am the creative director for the Dragon Age franchise and they haven't fired me yet," he explained.

welp

(pretty clear from his goodbye he burnt out, good that he didn't feel the need to stay tbh)
Nirolak
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(10-12-2017, 11:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by bluexy

Whoa now. Does this mean that the Dragon Age thing Laidlaw was hyping in June isn't going to be anymore? I can't imagine him leaving if there was an active DA project still going on.

Edit: Ah, got ahead of myself. Gotta say Laidlaw is a legend. Hard to believe he's leaving BioWare and I really do wish him the best. Hope he's not done with games. I'll follow him to his next project, for sure.

The game is still going. There's a zillion job postings for it on BioWare's website.

Edit:

Hmm, actually those have disappeared.
SatoAilDarko
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(10-12-2017, 11:38 PM)
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Possible games as a service direction being applied to Dragon's Age and he didn't like it?
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(10-12-2017, 11:38 PM)
He's a veteran at Bioware and was leading one of their tentpole series. It makes me a bit concerned about Dragon Age 4.
Lime
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(10-12-2017, 11:38 PM)
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He always came across as earnest in the interviews he did. Good guy.
jonjonaug
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(10-12-2017, 11:38 PM)
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So that's both Marc Laidlaw and David Gaider gone from Bioware.

With Patrick Weekes and Lukas Kristjanson still there I'm not too worried, but man that stings as a Dragon Age fan.
Marcel
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(10-12-2017, 11:39 PM)
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How many notable people need to leave before all the Bioware fanboys see that the jig is up?
shimon
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(10-12-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Well SHIT...
CheesecakeRecipe
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(10-12-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Dragon Age totally fell out of relevancy for me after Inquisition, but this is definitely an end of an era. One of those names you always heard in the same breath as the studio itself.

Hope he loves whatever comes next!
Zukkoyaki
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(10-12-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by CrichtonKicks

Holy crap, as a Dragon Age fan, this is pretty huge. Kind of worried about DA4 now.

Same here.

Anyway, best of luck to Mike in his future endeavors! He's done a lot of great work over the years.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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(10-12-2017, 11:40 PM)
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I guess Dragon Age 4 will be in trouble.
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(10-12-2017, 11:41 PM)

Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

Possible games as a service direction being applied to Dragon's Age and he didn't like it?

I think it would be a bit hasty to see this through the lens of enthusiast concerns about business models.
Glass Rebel
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(10-12-2017, 11:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

The game is still going. There's a zillion job postings for it on BioWare's website.

Edit:

Hmm, actually those have disappeared.

dun duuuunnn
bluexy
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(10-12-2017, 11:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

Hmm, actually those have disappeared.

Oh dear...
Kyoufu
(10-12-2017, 11:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lunafreya Nox Fleuret

I guess Dragon Age 4 will be in trouble.

I mean, DAI wasn't good and DA2 was worse. What would "trouble" mean here.
Surfside
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(10-12-2017, 11:42 PM)
He's is one of the last veterans at BioWare. Really the end of an era. Feels weird! He pretty much symbolized BioWare for me.
Mass_Pincup
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(10-12-2017, 11:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Nirolak

The game is still going. There's a zillion job postings for it on BioWare's website.

Edit:

Hmm, actually those have disappeared.

Lol that was the only thing from EA I was interested in.
Patryn
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(10-12-2017, 11:42 PM)
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
shimon
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(10-12-2017, 11:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

I mean, DAI wasn't good and DA2 was worse. What would "trouble" mean here.

MTs?
exmachina64
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(10-12-2017, 11:43 PM)
Telanadas.
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They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
(10-12-2017, 11:43 PM)
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ZugZug123
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(10-12-2017, 11:43 PM)
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No! 😫 Of the Bioware franchises, DA is my favorite.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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(10-12-2017, 11:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

I mean, DAI wasn't good and DA2 was worse. What would "trouble" mean here.

I thought Inquisition had a terrible ending and DA II was hot garbage. Inquisition has the right things going until they made your army so pointless at the end. DA4 could just be another Andromeda for all we know.
A-V-B
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(10-12-2017, 11:44 PM)
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Wow... guess that's it for any hopes of Jade Empire, too.
Mezoly
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(10-12-2017, 11:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kyoufu

I mean, DAI wasn't good and DA2 was worse. What would "trouble" mean here.

89 on Metacritic wasn't good? I know many on Gaf hate the game but it's not a fact that it wasn't good. But hey it's your opinion.
Spartancarver
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(10-12-2017, 11:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Kyoufu

I mean, DAI wasn't good and DA2 was worse. What would "trouble" mean here.

Yeaaaaah....

I mean I enjoyed Inquisition more than 2, which isn't saying a whole lot.

I feel like being a "fan of dragon age" means "I loved Origins and did my best to tolerate 2 and Inquisition."

And by that metric, I'm definitely a fan of Dragon Age :P
EDarkness
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(10-12-2017, 11:45 PM)
I wonder now that he's gone does that mean we finally get to play as the Warden again?
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(10-12-2017, 11:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Mezoly

89 on Metacritic wasn't good? I know many on Gaf hate the game but it's not a fact that it wasn't good. But hey it's your opinion.

Indeed, I enjoyed DAI. I understand some of the critiques I read on GAF, but it was still an enjoyable game that I sunk many hours into.
spindoctor
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(10-12-2017, 11:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mezoly

89 on Metacritic wasn't good? I know many on Gaf hate the game but it's not a fact that it wasn't good. But hey it's your opinion.

The Metacritic score is also just a collection of opinions...
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(10-12-2017, 11:47 PM)
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We had him on as a guest on our podcast a few months ago, cool guy.
Nirolak
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(10-12-2017, 11:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by EDarkness

I wonder now that he's gone does that mean we finally get to play as the Warden again?

I uh... I'm not 100% certain we're going to be playing any Dragon Age characters.

Maybe if there's someone called a Warden in Anthem or Star Wars?
ErMerGerd
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(10-12-2017, 11:47 PM)

Originally Posted by shimon

Well SHIT...

My exact reaction
Surfside
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(10-12-2017, 11:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Spartancarver

Yeaaaaah....

I mean I enjoyed Inquisition more than 2, which isn't saying a whole lot.

I feel like being a "fan of dragon age" means "I loved Origins and did my best to tolerate 2 and Inquisition."

And by that metric, I'm definitely a fan of Dragon Age :P


Inquisitons story wasn't bery good, just like Origins. I liked many characters in both games though.
Steve.1981
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(10-12-2017, 11:49 PM)
It's a bit disappointing to hear, but I wish the guy all the best for his future endeavours.

Really looking forward to Dragon Age 4, so hopefully somebody new is ready to step up and take advantage of the opportunity that presents itself with Mike Laidlaw stepping aside. Fingers crossed.
jdstorm
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(10-12-2017, 11:49 PM)
Best of luck to whatever he does in the future. Bioware had some great writers and creative people.

On a somewhat unrelated note

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1421702
Monolithsoft (Xenoblade) is/was recently recruiting for a fantasy action game. Https://www.monolithsoft.co.jp/recruit/special/
EDarkness
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(10-12-2017, 11:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Nirolak

I uh... I'm not 100% certain we're going to be playing any Dragon Age characters.

Maybe if there's someone called a Warden in Anthem or Star Wars?

Neither am I, but he was always saying that we wouldn't go back to the Warden even though there were many threads on their forums about bringing back that character. With him gone, maybe that means we'll finally get our Warden back...well, assuming they go back to that franchise. :(

Originally Posted by Mezoly

89 on Metacritic wasn't good? I know many on Gaf hate the game but it's not a fact that it wasn't good. But hey it's your opinion.

In my opinion an 89 on Metacritic doesn't mean anything. It's the only Dragon Age game I couldn't bring myself to finish. The story was bad and the questing was even worse. When they started singing somewhere at the beginning of the game, I knew my time with the game was going to be limited.
Zefah
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(10-12-2017, 11:52 PM)

Originally Posted by CrichtonKicks

Holy crap, as a Dragon Age fan, this is pretty huge. Kind of worried about DA4 now.

After the last two entries, I have zero expectations for it.
Spartancarver
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(10-12-2017, 11:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Surfside

Inquisitons story wasn't bery good, just like Origins. I liked many characters in both games though.

True, I did enjoy characters from both games.

That said, I only played through DA:I once, vs the 4+ playthroughs of Origins I had. It just didn't grab me that much.

maybe I'm due for an Inquisition playthrough, it's been a few years...
DeadlyParasite
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(10-12-2017, 11:53 PM)
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Certainly doesn't inspire a lot of positive thoughts on what the next Dragon Age game might be, espcially without his creative story and world-building input driving things forward.

It also seemingly comes out of nowhere. He appeared to be pretty happy on twitter for a while now and most people (including myself) believed he would at least be around to see the next entry in the series to completion.

I wonder if there was some critical shift in the way things have been ongoing at BioWare lately that's driving all these people away regardless of how many years they've been there.

If I find out that Anthem development is fucking siphoning resources and negatively impacting the development of Dragon Age like it did to Mass Effect I'm going to be livid.
Zafir
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(10-12-2017, 11:53 PM)
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Disappointing to hear, makes me even less excited about Bioware as a company considering I only really cared about Dragon Age from them at this point.
UpDownLeftRight
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(10-12-2017, 11:53 PM)
So at this point what do Bioware have left?

Mass Effect - dead
DA - possibly dead
New IP - Alive and kicking

Did they have a Star Wars game coming? This would be a disastrous situation to land in if not as they'd be basically hinging on the new IP success while having none of their heritage to fall back on.

I really hope they do have something SW in the works. If they only have the new IP and it flops I could see that being the end of the road for Bioware tbh.
Patryn
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(10-12-2017, 11:53 PM)
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The one question I'd ask those who did not enjoy Inquisition's story: Did you play Trespasser?

If we're left with THAT as a cliffhanger, seriously.... fuck you EA.

Originally Posted by UpDownLeftRight

So at this point what do Bioware have left?

Mass Effect - dead
DA - possibly dead
New IP - Alive and kicking

Did they have a Star Wars game coming? This would be a disastrous situation to land in if not as they'd be basically hinging on the new IP success while having none of their heritage to fall back on.

I really hope they do have something SW in the works. If they only have the new IP and it flops I could see that being the end of the road for Bioware tbh.

They had 4 teams: The original ME team (now on Anthem), the DA team (which was supposedly on DA4), Montreal (which after MEA is now gone) and Austin (which is on SWTOR). They didn't have resources for a Star Wars game.

That being said, if DA4 is being canned I'd guess that the resources are either being diverted to Anthem or possibly to a Star Wars game.
Pilgrimzero
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(10-12-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Every time I see that name I think of Bob Loblaw
NKnight7
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(10-12-2017, 11:54 PM)

Originally Posted by CrichtonKicks

Holy crap, as a Dragon Age fan, this is pretty huge. Kind of worried about DA4 now.

Yeah, my similar reaction too. I can't help but feel worried now.
HP_Wuvcraft
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(10-12-2017, 11:54 PM)
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Holy crap, this is out of the blue.

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