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Digital Foundry: Sonic Mania PS4/XO/Switch Full Analysis
- Thread starter jsnepo
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Only thing I've noticed on the Switch that's a bit odd is that the Home menu takes multiple seconds to pop up. It's a real weird little problem since the game jumps back and forth between the moment the game actually pauses and where you are a few seconds later. Other than that Switch port seems solid...
GhostTrick
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What's that ugly scaling ? Why everything looks so smothed on the DF video ?
Haven't watched the video yet but by default there's a blurry filter applied on the game.
GhostTrick
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Yeah, it's not nearest neighbour so it just sucks. The video seems to cover that it seems.
Also, seems like John agrees with me: 4k mode was important for Pro, to avoid shitty upscale. Pixel perfect. <3
OrbitalBeard
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I didn't even notice those dips in the bonus stages when playing. They're pretty minor but yeah, I hope a patch can make the framerate perfect.
The digs were mostly justified.
Great work! Pleased to hear the game runs well across all platforms. Had a very good experience so far with the PS4 (Base) version 
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. Your digs at Nintendo are somewhat justified regarding the music for New Yoshi's Island and NSMB...don't like those soundtracks very much personally. AM2R I'm in full agreement, but it's somewhat understandable due to Samus Returns being a thing on 3DS next month.
sixteen-bit
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Any spoilers?
GhostTrick
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SoulUnison
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Do we have any word on graphics options for the PC port?
Hopefully it'll have a 4K option like PS4Pro.
Hopefully it'll have a 4K option like PS4Pro.
GhostTrick
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Lights and Waves
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SCREAMING AT THE
they showed.
THE SHADE!
Metroid moment
THE SHADE!
Blackquill
Member
That Yoshi's New Island cameo hahahahaha
PC player here. Thank you.
I know, I know...the inner Sega fan couldn't resist re-igniting the Nintendo vs Sega war (even though I love them both).
Hey, at least Mario Odyssey has an incredible soundtrack as well.
mullet2000
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Wasn't expecting PS4 Pro support.
Now I'm debating that over Switch. How big of a visual difference does it actually make on a 4k TV, given its emulating the look of a Genesis game?
Now I'm debating that over Switch. How big of a visual difference does it actually make on a 4k TV, given its emulating the look of a Genesis game?
GhostTrick
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secretanchitman
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Nice video and lol at that AM2R reference.
Looks like I'll be getting it on PS4.
Looks like I'll be getting it on PS4.
Blackquill
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Don't worry that's not an element from the game itself, DF compared the soundtrack of mania with some new plate-form games
killatopak
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downsampling defeats the purpose of pixel perfect setting.
BoogieWoogie
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Did this come out for Vita as well?
SinCityAssassin
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No.
Also concerning the two bugs in the Switch version, whitehead already confirmed that they're working on it.
https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/status/897417286260187137
Technically, it IS out on Vita, as you can play it through Vita via PS4 remote play...like what I'm doing. If it means anything, it controls wonderfully on Vita in remote play (direct connection) and image quality shines on Vita.
Edit: I only meant that you can play it on Vita via remote play. There is no currently released Vita version.
FeenixRising
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I don't appreciate the shade you threw at the Crash music. 😡😡😡
YouTube destroyed the video. Here's a shot taken from the original source file (before uploading).
What issue are you seeing? Haven't run into any problems on Xbox.
Ha ha, sorry, I'm not a big Crash music fan (love the games, though) but, after spending more time with it, I think the Remaster versions are worse.
Native 4K image would look pretty crisp at 1080p though.
One of the developers confirmed that in one of the threads on the game. Can't remember which thread specifically, but it is there.
Diprosalic
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By not being complete morons. It's not rocket science.
Fuck! I asked in the OT whether or not ps4 would have pro support and my question was laughably dismissed as an impossibility. Lo and behold its actually native 4k and Ive already bought it on Switch.
pretty done
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Gotta go to work right now, but is there really a difference between PS4 Pro and Switch versions? I can't imagine 4K would really add much to a 16 bit game but ya never know
I might have made a huge mistake going with Switch
I might have made a huge mistake going with Switch
Diprosalic
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You will never recover from it.
John, are you absolutely positive that the 16-bit trilogy did not feature true, overlapping parallax layers? Because in S3K that sure looks like what it is doing to me in several zones. Take a look at the foliage behind the background tree layer in Mushroom Hill for instance.
Granted, it might just be some really clever trick and not "true" parallax, but the end result is for all intents and purposes the same.
Granted, it might just be some really clever trick and not "true" parallax, but the end result is for all intents and purposes the same.
SinCityAssassin
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The only real difference is that the Pro version supports 4K. There are some problems with the Switch version, namely some dips in the special stages and an oddly long home load time that were confirmed to be bugs by Whitehead that didn't appear in QA before release.
It does make a different *IF* you have a 4K TV as it means perfectly sharp pixels that line up with your TV's pixel grid.
That's right.
It's a very clever trick. That's all.
Each plane has a high and low value that can be used to achieve some interesting results as you see there. So, yeah, you could get something similar at points.
What you can't do is have multiple flat planes with completely unique bitmaps scrolling in front of one another as we see in Mania. That's the big difference. Mania features a lot of large, detailed planes intersecting with one another in ways that wouldn't work on the MD.
The only differences seem to be 4K on the Pro and also the Switch version seems to fluctuate between 50 and 60 fps during certain bonus stages
"This is a game that embodies pure joy to the highest degree" - slap that quote on a physical release box imo
John is correct, but some of the post-Sonic 1 games employ animated tiles in the background that animate based on screen position (basically, it mathematically shifts pixels in the tiles left/right and redraws them constantly) to create the illusion of real parallax.
John is correct, but some of the post-Sonic 1 games employ animated tiles in the background that animate based on screen position (basically, it mathematically shifts pixels in the tiles left/right and redraws them constantly) to create the illusion of real parallax.
Omegasquash
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DF is pretty reliable, and while I was excited for the game before, I'm now simply more confident in that excitement.
Opted for the Switch version so the whole family can play it. Probably going to grab it on another platform too, just a question of the S or the 4. Either way, I don't have a 4k TV, so it won't *really* make a difference.
Thanks for putting this together. Going to point some friends to it too.
Opted for the Switch version so the whole family can play it. Probably going to grab it on another platform too, just a question of the S or the 4. Either way, I don't have a 4k TV, so it won't *really* make a difference.
Thanks for putting this together. Going to point some friends to it too.
breakfuss
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Nah, they were absolutely necessary.
PositiveGamer
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This game cost me 75.00!!
I had to get the beautiful collector's item!!
But I have to wait a few more days for shipping.. boooooo
I had to get the beautiful collector's item!!
But I have to wait a few more days for shipping.. boooooo
YouTube destroyed the video. Here's a shot taken from the original source file (before uploading).
Pixels are blurred too in that screenshot.