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Guy Says Rude Thing to Person, Gets Fired From Destructoid, Says More Rude Things
- Thread starter Mr. Enigma
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That's what I think is so hilarious. Does she even know what's going on or is she going to sign on Twitter and be like "The fuck just happened?"
YoYo Switch
Banned
a lot of shitty GAF threads maybe
cutmeamango
Banned
He pickets interest. Fake hyping, non fake hyping. He may not be alone in these crusades, but I do see genuine endeavor in his person in making games relevant and exciting and interesting.
Jasper Avenue
Member
In the end this will probably work out better for the guy. Now he can find himself a real career.
She's actively tweeting (she just accepted his apology), but she really didn't say anything at all when the guy made those tweets. It only blew up because other people made it an issue.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
How often do you think apologies in situations like this, where someone's ordering you to "say you're sorry," are sincere? Based on when I had to do this as a child, I'd say "absolutely never."
And it doesn't fucking matter whether he's sorry, anyway. All that's important is that Destructoid's image isn't tarnished (for what that's worth) and that gamers can safely go back to complaining about whatever other minor irritants they were enraged about earlier in the day.
Good on her for not making a big deal out of it. Didn't think she would anyway.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Could have sworn I read Perez's twitter profile and it said he "enjoys the smell of busty women".
Maybe I'm mis-remembering things. Either way don't quote me on that.
Maybe I'm mis-remembering things. Either way don't quote me on that.
Koroviev
Member
I'm sure she has seen the comments. She's just not bothering to enter the fray. His comment was probably only noted because of his affiliation with Destructoid. Had he been just some completely random guy making ill-informed remarks, probably no one would have cared.
It did. He edited.
YoYo Switch
Banned
I sorta liked him on the e3 bombcasts.
I've always hated his weird comments about wanting Nintendo to deliver an "epic, Lord of the Rings Zelda" (his words not mine)
like, what does that even mean?
Anyway, we're de-railing this thread.
mediapulp_wes
Member
Amazed some people in this thread are actually trying to half heartedly support his comment. Let's just call Nolan North a glorified booth babe and be done with it. Insulting much.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Don't. They're doing you a favor. Avoid it like a plague.
j0hnny_385
Member
Oh whow, just whow... I was just on Twitter when this was happening so I followed the whole thing. David Fucking Jaffe nailed it!
First of all, I don't like Felicia Day. I respect her work in the social media/webseries space, but I'm not a fan. Nothing personal, different taste, I guess.
This Destruction guy is an idiot. That booth babe part was unnecessary and rude but he had every right to post that question. What? Just because it's Felicia Day, she's untouchable? Please... everyone has the right to be questioned and evaluated (although in a civil and polite matter).
All I wanted to say is: yes, the guy's an idiot for posting that question IN THAT MANNER, but he had every right to ask that. I don't see her contribution to the *gaming* industry (social media/webseries, sure, without a doubt).
And Jaffe hit the point immediately. He's 100% right. He met Felicia Day and has huge respect for her. He said the guy's an idiot for posting that BUT if this industry wants to be fair, why isn't anyone "jumping to defense" when lots of other shit is happening in the industry to various people? Huh? Talk about being fair & honest.
Q.E.D.
First of all, I don't like Felicia Day. I respect her work in the social media/webseries space, but I'm not a fan. Nothing personal, different taste, I guess.
This Destruction guy is an idiot. That booth babe part was unnecessary and rude but he had every right to post that question. What? Just because it's Felicia Day, she's untouchable? Please... everyone has the right to be questioned and evaluated (although in a civil and polite matter).
All I wanted to say is: yes, the guy's an idiot for posting that question IN THAT MANNER, but he had every right to ask that. I don't see her contribution to the *gaming* industry (social media/webseries, sure, without a doubt).
And Jaffe hit the point immediately. He's 100% right. He met Felicia Day and has huge respect for her. He said the guy's an idiot for posting that BUT if this industry wants to be fair, why isn't anyone "jumping to defense" when lots of other shit is happening in the industry to various people? Huh? Talk about being fair & honest.
Q.E.D.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Which is strange really because the industry, like many of the games it produces, consists of the same things over and over again.
Ah good....well not good but eh at least I'm not losing it.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Quod Erat Demonstrandum, indeed.
Cursed Frogurt
Banned
Did you just compare being adult to being a child? Umm not the same. An adult is more apt to see the error of their ways. He had a chance to. He didn't. He's an ass.
If you want to find things against Sterling, I'm not exactly sure she's the person who I'd be using as the rational side of the argument.
How about all of their actions, compounding with one another?
clifftrapremover
Member
It's a simple point of how Perez approached the situation: instead of reasonably questioning her, he more so attacked and judged. Sure Day may not be the paragon of innovation and forward thinking but her work is harmless and fun. She enjoys what she does and I have not seen her pushing any major agenda. Now do I personally think she adds anything to the medium? Not much really (go watch her work at the 2011 Spike VGAs as proof...) but she doesn't really have to add anything if she doesn't want to.
lazybones18
Banned
Mostly know Felicia Day from Eureka....and she sucks in that
Should have let her character stay dead
Ventilaator
Banned
Oh no, someone not liking somebody else, kill him!!
A word from Destructoid saying "Those opinions are all his, not ours" would have been more than enough.
A word from Destructoid saying "Those opinions are all his, not ours" would have been more than enough.
The_Inquisitor
Member
I agree everyone overreacted here. So no warning along with instant termination?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
It's the same shit. Dude's all grown up, he calls Felicia Day a mean name, and his boss tells him to say he's sorry? Yeah, he's going to say sorry to keep his job, but you know he fucking meant what he said. He wouldn't have said it otherwise.
I'm not saying the dude wasn't a dick about the way he went about things, but do you honestly expect anyone to be sincere when they apologize in circumstances like those?
YoYo Switch
Banned
there can only be so many LTTP and voting threads
megaStryke
Banned
He's had a few other gigs before Destructoid. If this was his very first writing spot, sure, he'd been in deep trouble, but I don't think it's going to be so bad for him. We'll see.
He's just like you -- didn't really know who Felicia Day was.
I don't claim to be a huge Felicia Day fan, but she's been in a few good things. She was on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and she's been on smaller web projects like Legend of Neil and Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Well...He's only an intern.
All Destructoid has to do is hold a hand outside their office window and fifty more of them will fly into it.
Recovery is still possible I suppose...not that I'd have a clue or anything. One person quickly forgets but a few million? Okay maybe they'll quickly forget as well.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Fair enough - I guess I just assumed that internship meant first crack at being in the industry. Sorry for making that leap of logic inappropriately.
At least those are about games and not the people who make them. Feels like I'm on TMZ-Gaming Edition.
lol
cutmeamango
Banned
It means that Legend of Zelda has a rich lore that could be used for an epic, yet it always hit closes notes. There may be preference for the usual storytelling formula, but he is right there is room for an epic.
Yes, he has every right to pose any questions.
But his questions beg for other questions.
Does she detracts/harms the industry?
Does she identifies herself as of importance to the industry?
Does others indentify her as of importance or 'face' to the industry?
It appears to me she is neutral on all stances. So what would be the importance on valueing her worth? What is there to appease other than curiosity? And if it was genuine curiosity, couldn't he pose this question to himself and rationalize and gauge her value from there?
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Anyway, it was on twitter, anyone can do anything.
Cursed Frogurt
Banned
Yes, if someone talks to him sincerely about why what he said/did was wrong. If he grasps it and honestly apologizes he should keep his job. People are capable of learning from their mistakes. The knee-jerk reaction to ban/fire someone doesn't accomplish much of anything. Unless they're unrepentant, in which case you've accomplished the task of ridding yourself of one asshole, which apparently they did.
Koroviev
Member
I don't see the point in attaching your real identity if you're not a public figure of some degree.
Indeed. Interns get 0 strikes. Some might think it's unfair, but that's business. Attacking a personality with a legion of fans out of the blue like that brings way too much hassle. Better for Destructoid to cut him than fall on their swords for a meager intern.
Koroviev
Member
I think the issue here is that social media has become inextricable from journalism. In other words, part of the job is managing your online affairs thoughtfully. As is the case with any other business, they don't have time to babysit you.
The thing that always amazes me is that people usually advertise their online identities on the accounts they use to be a jackass.
I'd be more forgiving if people would split their public and private Twitter personas, and confine their dumb behavior to a private account and keep their professional one professional.
If you name-drop where you write to let potential followers know how awesome you are, you leave the website no choice other than to treat your words on your twitter account as reflecting you as an employee.
Cursed Frogurt
Banned
They write about video games. They have time. Even major corporations take the time. It's why they have HR departments.
Koroviev
Member
Destructoid made a public statement disassociating their site's views from those expressed by Perez. He is no longer an intern at Destructoid.