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Gearbox suing 3D Realms, Interceptor for unauthorized Duke Nukem use
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neurosisxeno
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3D Realms are totally in the wrong, and they had 8 years to make a Duke Nukem game before Gearbox finally bought the rights and shoved their piece of crap out the door. Gearbox is just as shameful for claiming they "care" about Duken Nukem as a property, nobody who cared would have shipped that abortion called Duke Nukem Forever...
Yea, this is something that has been at the back of my mind during all the Duke business.
Freezasaurus
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Duke Nukem would probably be better off with 3DR at this point. Even if all they did was sit around pretending to make a new Duke Nukem game for another decade.
Jazzkokehead
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You know, when I first heard that there was a new Duke game, my first thought was, "Didn't Gearbox buy the rights to character? So how is this new game apparently being developed and released without their involvement?"
This more or less answers those questions.
This more or less answers those questions.
Freezasaurus
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We all saw what happened when Gearbox got control of an Aliens game. No one wants that.
I mean if Gearbox gets publishing rights instead of 3DR. Nothing in development there, maybe minor co-dev stuff.
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Which was a free game. This is going to be a commercial release.
Freezasaurus
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I know, I just like poking fun at Randy Pitchford. That guy annoys the fucking shit out of me.
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Exactly.
How do we know this isn't ? Outside of rumours it was never confirmed to be a game for sale was it ? (I'm not saying it isn't, but I don't think their was ever any confirmation)
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Yeah. Curiously 3D Realms and Interceptor Entertainment have also released Duke 1, 2 and Manhattan on Steam and I always wondered why Gearbox' name/logo wasn't anywhere on these.. I'm thinking that they had decided to keep quite at the time but not anymore.
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Free game on PlayStation? I don't think so. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=99228641&postcount=102
Legacy rights are usually a separate thing, witness Interplay selling the original Fallout Trilogy until the end of last year.
I think Gearbox would have been aware of the releases pretty quickly then. My guess is that they were quietly telling them to remove the games and 3D Realms were refusing to acknowledge it, thus leading to the lawsuit. Another theory I can think of is that maybe they could have done rereleases of the series and sell it commercially but not create new content for the character, maybe that leading to some sort of breach of contract.
Just speculating, so I'm talking out of my ass.
To be fair, it wasn't Gearbox's call: Take-Two grew tired of 3D Realms constantly getting nowhere and tasked Gearbox with getting the game in a playable state as quickly as possible.
Sum-Mischief
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I went and bought that turd of a game....
Never again !
Never again !
TaroYamada
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No, they sold the future use of the Duke Nukem franchise. Which included DNF, as it had not yet been finished. 3DR still owns 1, 2 and 3D. The other, separate Apogee, also has the rights to make two more Duke Nukem games IIRC, the ones from the canceled handheld trilogy can still be finished.
But this is the second legal wrangling since the sale, so conditions may have changed.
Ah right ok, hopefully we'll find out soon enough then. Just looking forward to knowing more about the game regardless.
I'm pretty certain Gearbox don't have the rights to the older games and 3D Realms can release those as they please. I don't think there's any dodgy circumstances around those at all.
Even if Gearbox are in the right I still find it hard to feel sorry for them, I'd rather they not go near Duke again after Aliens Colonial Marines. I really don't like Randy Pitchford.
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I am talking out of my ass as well
It's just that 3D Realms have already once "interpreted" the contract with Gearbox differently than the latter have: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=588341 and now it seems it's the second time.
Doomshroom
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There must be more to this? I mean they sell the property and still use it, come on.
MrTroubleMaker
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I had the same thought.
Dead Man Typing
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I'm still glad they released Duke Nukem Forever, the real DNF. Not some modern FPS called Duke Nukem Forever. We actually got the game that they had been building for 14 years and I wouldn't trade that for a brand new sleek Duke Nukem game co-developed by Bungie and Naughty Dog.
These kind of lawsuits don't make anyone look good.
OrlanisWorks
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They were stupid enough to try and make a game on rights they had no possession of, having sold them?
MrCunningham
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Interceptor did pretty good with the Duke Nukem 3D port on Steam. If it weren't for the gamma levels being too bright (something that EDuke32 does better) I would say that it is a really solid port with online components.
They also gave sunglasses to Duke in Duke Nukem II for Steam.
This might be 'we had designs for this on a dirty napkin' so it was actually in development.
I think there was some confusion as to who owns what due to the publishing mess on Steam and elsewhere (2K publishes DNF; Devolver publishes DN3D; and Interceptor publishes Duke, Duke 2 and Manhattan Project).
polyh3dron
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And let's have Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo compete to see who can make the better "Mario" game while we're at it.
It's like they're east-end gangsters, caught red handed. I can just imagine Scott and Broussard putting their hands up, "It's a fair cop".
A cursory glance makes me think 3DR is totally in the wrong here and is going to get their collective asses whipped in court.
Oh well. I wonder what was going on at 3DR HQ if things really are as dried-and-cut as they appear to be.
I kind of do not want to give Gearbox the satisfaction of doing so, to be honest. I have a quite irrational dislike of Gearbox by now.
Oh well. I wonder what was going on at 3DR HQ if things really are as dried-and-cut as they appear to be.
Wouldn't be that bad of an idea.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Has Sega (and Fox) sued the hell out of Gearbox for Aliens yet?
Thought it was impending.
Thought it was impending.
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