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AMD Radeon HD 6870 and HD 6850 benchmarks
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DonasaurusRex
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If these cards are the new 5770 - 5830 segment i cannot wait to see what we are gonna get in the 5870 - 5850 slot , if you look at the difference between the 5830 and the 6800 its truly compelling.
SolsticeZero
Banned
God damnit god damnit god damnit. I told myself I was gonna hold off, but I'm starting to feel my 4870's age, and these prices are too good to pass up. This weekend, I'm so buying one.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Shambles said:
Not this fucking argument again.
good luck getting software physics on par with nvidia's hardware accelerated offering any time soon. And good luck getting developers to add vastly more complex physics simulation to their console ports without money hats from Nvidia or ATi.
I don't like proprietry bullshit but it is what it is.
New pics of MLAA.
Danne-Danger
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Salacious Crumb said:
Yeah I meant the 6990, and the microstutter is a dealbreaker unfortunately.Mr_Brit said:
nubbe said:
I remember people posting comments like that in the 4870 thread.
It bothers me that no one benchmarks at my resolution. If I knew how much of a performance improvement I would see it would make this decision much easier to make.
brain_stew
Member
flyinpiranha said:
6870.
brain_stew
Member
I wouldn't exactly call it "nirvana" but its very nice all the same. Anyone found any shots of MLAA + MSAA being demonstrated?
Ryoma-Echizen
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Salacious Crumb said:
If Antilles is based on Barts GPU's it will outperform HD5970. HD6870 CF already surpass HD5870 CF (also better than a 5970), HD6870 for a dual gpu will stay way below the 300w at stock speeds.
HD5970 is toe to toe with a 6850 CF (50w less power consumption than a 5970).
Now if Antilles is based in the Cayman gpu's, hell will be upon us.
Krauser Kat
Member
i just noticed Newegg no long carries the 4890. Any reason why it phased out so early when the 4870 etc. are still around
like a candle in the wind. only now are we seeing similar performance cards go for the same price as the 4890 a few months after launch (£130), didn't make sense to keep it hanging around making the 5xxx series look overpriced. can't imagine per-unit profit was exactly stellar, either.Krauser Kat said:
Flying_Phoenix
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This has probably been asked a million times already but is the 6870 really worth the extra $50?
All I want is a GPU that will last me 2.5 years (much like how my 8800GT has so far).
I don't care too much about maxing out every single game to every come out, but more so running it in quality settings. I mean the 6850 looks to be marginally better than the GTX 460 1GB and that was the hot shit up until two days ago.
All I want is a GPU that will last me 2.5 years (much like how my 8800GT has so far).
I don't care too much about maxing out every single game to every come out, but more so running it in quality settings. I mean the 6850 looks to be marginally better than the GTX 460 1GB and that was the hot shit up until two days ago.
brain_stew
Member
Flying_Phoenix said:
If you're willing to OC (i.e. move a little slider for an instant performance boost), then no. A $180 will perform the same as a stock 6870 once overclocked and the 6870 is not capable of ever reaching much higher performance than what it delivers at stock.
Flying_Phoenix said:
Think of it this way $50 is not a hell of a lot to invest over 2 years. I mean if the 6850 is not gonna cut it and you end up regretting not getting the 6870 in 18 months well you got another 6 months to put up with below par performance.
Akuun said:
Next gen is prolly gonna be 2011, so in truth not that long then
TOAO_Cyrus
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Check this out, MLAA comparison with Starcraft 2.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6870-radeon-hd-6850-barts,2776-4.html
4xAA causes a 50% drop in performance while with MLAA there is virtually none. I wonder if it will work as well with other games.
Also a word of warning, the default AF setting in catalyst 10.10 is actually worse then with the default catalyst AI setting in previous drivers. You have to set it to high quality to get the same IQ on HD5XXXand to get the improvements with HD6XXX.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6870-radeon-hd-6850-barts,2776-4.html
4xAA causes a 50% drop in performance while with MLAA there is virtually none. I wonder if it will work as well with other games.
Also a word of warning, the default AF setting in catalyst 10.10 is actually worse then with the default catalyst AI setting in previous drivers. You have to set it to high quality to get the same IQ on HD5XXXand to get the improvements with HD6XXX.
flyinpiranha
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brain_stew said:
6850 it is then ... thanks for saving me $50!
TOAO_Cyrus
Member
evil solrac v3.0 said:
They probably don't have the expertise to do that and it would suck anyway because it would be proprietary and devs would have to chose between AMD and Nvidia. Nvidia bought PhysX and had them port their physics engine from their stand alone PPU's to CUDA. Anyone can write a platform agnostic GPU accelerated physics engine using DirectCompute which will run on all DX10 and above GPU's. Devs never seem to do their own physics engines these days Havoc seriously needs to hurry up and do this.
SolsticeZero
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flyinpiranha said:
Me too!
otake said:
Yes, and this one game is BFBC2, right? (also GTA4, Dragon Age and a dozen more games) My framerate in it doubled when I had upgraded from 2 to 4 cores. Don't waste your money on GPU, if you want to increase fps in BFBC2.
brain_stew said:
I appreciate your help and persistence. We've done this dance before but I have no intention of getting rid of my crossfire setup. My "crippled" 5970 does just fine at spanking pretty much every other card in existence; So being able to use absolute max settings and image quality Is something I Am not willing to give up : )
Micro stuttering is also not a concern of mine; The combination of vsync and triple buffering have pretty much elimnated that problem in most games that I play. Don't fret however, as soon as a single gpu can match the performance of my cf setup, ill bite.
And finally get you off my back, lol.
subversus said:
I played Dragon Age on my c2d with no issues. Upgrading my cpu would mean upgradin my motherboard as well, not looking forward to that. The core i5 stuff is still too expensive.
I thought gaming was becoming much more GPU bound than CPU bound.
otake said:
No, since this console generation is light on GPU side the opposite is happening.
Cryengine 3, Frostbite (DICE games from now on), Rage (GTA series) - they all demand 4 cores to run decent on high settings. And again your fps in DA will almost double if you're on quad.
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...rks-75-percent-boost-for-quad-cores/Practice/
But yeah, Intel CPUs and motherboards are expensive.
otake said:
What card do you have? I have a 4850 but have a Phenom II X4 and can play BC2 @ 1680 x 1050 very well as long as I leave AO off and shadows in medium. So I do think it's the CPU. Most games are gpu bound but thats as long as you have a quad. But at this point you might as well wait for Sandy Bridge and upgrade then.
otake said:
PS3 made devs offload a lot of graphics work on CPU (since its GPU is shit) and parallelize tasks. There was a DICE presentation where they stressed that FROSTBITE will parallelize tasks heavily and use 6 or more cores, so PS3 will benefit from it greatly. Cryengine 3 will use up to 6 cores, all physics tasks will be offloaded to CPU.
360 CPU is also pretty powerful for a console and the lead engine architect at DICE has said numerous times on his twitter (due to complaints on BFBC2 perfomance) that console CPUs rape most 2 core CPUs used in PCs.
SapientWolf
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If Crysis 2 ran any worse than the original Crysis I would be shocked.DaBuddaDa said:
brain_stew
Member
otake said:
Not on dual core rigs.
You could pick up a used Q6600 for <$100 and clock it to 3ghz+ and it would get rid of your CPU woes for many years to come. I can't rightfully recommend a GPU upgrade until you do at least this.
flyinpiranha
Member
brain_stew said:
Where do you shop for a used one?
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
Being honest, I suspect that I'll start getting more and more life on my hardware as time goes on. Gaming is reaching its limit in terms of production costs and we haven't seen a game that truly brought PC's to their knees since Crysis.
And if you want one on the cheap go AMD AM3.
Amazon.flyinpiranha said:
And if you want one on the cheap go AMD AM3.
brain_stew
Member
flyinpiranha said:
Ebay/Amazon/Play/Craig's list.
The usual places really.
brain_stew
Member
Flying_Phoenix said:
Metro 2033 would like a word.
Flying_Phoenix
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brain_stew said:
Exactly one game, that can be easily scaled down. Yes I know you can probably find a few more if you really dig but there's no denying that games today are in the need of more power as oppose to games ten years ago.
Here's some off-screen footage of Deus Ex:HR running on an HD6870 (on an Eyefinity setup).
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/31916
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/31915
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/31916
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/31915
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