I think the hero powers will be more creative than that, but prepare yourself for variety of power levels.
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I think the hero powers will be more creative than that, but prepare yourself for variety of power levels.
Summon 2 random demons.
There is a lot of Reynad out there.
Karsticles
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Hero Power: Cast Twisting Nether.
That would be beyond terrible.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
There's not much range between twisting nether and doom.
Sounds about right for a warlock card then
slightconfuse
Banned
Why would mage get lifesteal instead of priest?
Rogue shouldn't have either. You can't give the strongest tempo class in the game comeback mechanics, they'd never lose a game.
That's why I said it'd (rogue) be great. Like OP great.
But there's a chance for healing with lifesteal + cold blood.
Mobius and pet octopus
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They actually said some you build around more than others, just not on the same level as quests.
slightconfuse
Banned
Rogue hero card will be the one that justifies the blade fury nerf
Karsticles
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Right, but the example they gave was that some might be more "control" oriented. An elemental deck is pretty specific, and much more in line with the quests (Murloc Quest).
Deathknights. They all lifesteal.
pretty sure every class gets some form of lifesteal this time around. They said it's their way to give classes that normally don't have healing, healing. Priest and paladin already got lifesteal so probably everyone has one at least even classes with healing.
If rogue gets a weapon buff with life steal (like they got with poisonous) then maybe you can play control style rogue, still it won't work with bladeflurry lol. They should change flurry so that these weapon interactions work at least, that could be cool and game changing. These are not the cards that you ever play in miracle style rogue, it will help create new rogue decks.
I hope it's not a weapon buff though. I want a 1/3 weapon for 1 that has text lifesteal. I think that's reasonable. Some 1-2 cost spell won't be worthwhile, you need to dagger for 2 and it will have only 2 charges and needs some kind of attack buff on top to be worthwhile unless it's included in the spell. I'd rather have a 1 cost weapon which you can buff with deadly poison, it also helps envenom to be more playable. 1/3 weapons are quite powerful in the meta game as seen in pirate warrior. Just playing upgrade on turn 1 can be very good let alone first mate.
If rogue gets a weapon buff with life steal (like they got with poisonous) then maybe you can play control style rogue, still it won't work with bladeflurry lol. They should change flurry so that these weapon interactions work at least, that could be cool and game changing. These are not the cards that you ever play in miracle style rogue, it will help create new rogue decks.
I hope it's not a weapon buff though. I want a 1/3 weapon for 1 that has text lifesteal. I think that's reasonable. Some 1-2 cost spell won't be worthwhile, you need to dagger for 2 and it will have only 2 charges and needs some kind of attack buff on top to be worthwhile unless it's included in the spell. I'd rather have a 1 cost weapon which you can buff with deadly poison, it also helps envenom to be more playable. 1/3 weapons are quite powerful in the meta game as seen in pirate warrior. Just playing upgrade on turn 1 can be very good let alone first mate.
Lone_Prodigy
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I'm Priest facing lethal against Paladin. I have no board and he has a Drake, Kodo, Megasaur, and a Poisonous Tidecaller
I top deck Potion of Madness, steal the Tidecaller to remove the Drake, and Dragonfire to clear the board.
A few turns later he concedes when I play a second Tarim (courtesy of DrakOp from Netherspite).
I top deck Potion of Madness, steal the Tidecaller to remove the Drake, and Dragonfire to clear the board.
A few turns later he concedes when I play a second Tarim (courtesy of DrakOp from Netherspite).
And this is why priest / discovery is horrible to play against.
On an unrelated note, I am doing okay-ish with token bloodlust shaman, but I have a terrible record against other shaman players. Even if they seem to have a similar deck, most of them apparently have 2x lightning storm. Some also have jade spirit and jade chieftain.
Is that just an anti-shaman thing or should I consider using a similar strategy?
I imagine Jain's hero power would involve summoning Elementals. Perhaps even Water Elementals specifically since Blizzard views her as more of an ice mage.
Being able to summon a 3/6 Lifesteal card that freezes units every turn for 2 mana would help stall a lot of things in a Mage control deck.
That art also looks way more like what I would actually expect them to ship for Hearthstone than the trailer art. She has two different designs as it is in the promo art and she's by far Blizzard's least consist character in terms of art design.
Being able to summon a 3/6 Lifesteal card that freezes units every turn for 2 mana would help stall a lot of things in a Mage control deck.
That art also looks way more like what I would actually expect them to ship for Hearthstone than the trailer art. She has two different designs as it is in the promo art and she's by far Blizzard's least consist character in terms of art design.
Keyser Soze
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What if they turn Jain's hero power into...
And this is why priest / discovery is horrible to play against.
On an unrelated note, I am doing okay-ish with token bloodlust shaman, but I have a terrible record against other shaman players. Even if they seem to have a similar deck, most of them apparently have 2x lightning storm. Some also have jade spirit and jade chieftain.
Is that just an anti-shaman thing or should I consider using a similar strategy?
They will be favored in the matchups if they are running storm and volcano, but it is winnable still. If you get a read they are playing a slower deck, you want to play for value and force them to aoe until they run out. Hero power every turn and the threat of bloodlust will force them to aoe even if you don't have it. Bide your time until you can finish, hopefully before their stuff gets too big. Try to stick a mana tide and protect it. That's going to be your biggest % increase play.
If they are just running the token bloodlust with storms added it's a really tough matchup for you. That's definitely tech'd for the mirror. If you see a lot of token shaman it can be worth running a copy.
You can try out the slower lists if you like, but if you are going for wins, the token deck is just more refined right now. Even if the slower decks turn out to be stronger (which I doubt will be the case) they aren't quite there yet.
And grats on the rank 10!
Mobius and pet octopus
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Wow, I still have a 8-1 arena run from the first week of the expansion going.
I knew I had a run going. And I knew the draft was pretty decent. Didn't know I played to 8 wins already.
I knew I had a run going. And I knew the draft was pretty decent. Didn't know I played to 8 wins already.
Twinguistics
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I thought some new cards were going to be revealed on the 20th?
It does the same thing in non-arena Paladin. It's very painful, but I guess it has even more impact in arena.
Final Spark
Member
First 12 win arena run!
Pretty crazy deck. 2 Vine cleaver 2 spikeridged and tirion.
Pretty crazy deck. 2 Vine cleaver 2 spikeridged and tirion.
you get a free arena ticket, and any new arena run during the festival starts off at 1 win
and there's a quest where once you play 3 arena games you get a pack from the new expansion
watch this amazing game of arena I just had. https://hsreplay.net/replay/uuyCg64zztaNEEeNijjmzM
this guy's priest deck is almost constructed but still stands no chance against my meme warrior.
I'm dying here lmao. Looking at his hand I think he misplayed big time. Death on my 5/5 was so bad when has smite, he was saving that smite so much for malygos that he lost the sight that I'm almost at full hp. I played explore ungoro, of course I'm going to slam the biggest thing I get every turn, you waste a death on a 5/5? Second dragon fire was used very badly too. If this guy was decent I had no chance at winning with my 65 score warrior deck...
that shitty warrior deck is 10-2 so far. I pretty much have to play it full face, I beat insane paladin decks with it. The only thing it has going for it are the 2x fool's bane, that carries a lot of weight.
this guy's priest deck is almost constructed but still stands no chance against my meme warrior.
I'm dying here lmao. Looking at his hand I think he misplayed big time. Death on my 5/5 was so bad when has smite, he was saving that smite so much for malygos that he lost the sight that I'm almost at full hp. I played explore ungoro, of course I'm going to slam the biggest thing I get every turn, you waste a death on a 5/5? Second dragon fire was used very badly too. If this guy was decent I had no chance at winning with my 65 score warrior deck...
that shitty warrior deck is 10-2 so far. I pretty much have to play it full face, I beat insane paladin decks with it. The only thing it has going for it are the 2x fool's bane, that carries a lot of weight.
BananasWithGuns
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You can tell Blizzard did not playtest this brawl with how stupidly uneven it is.
I got the 5 win Brawl quest and it keeps giving me Mage and there's just no way. You have to essentially get a godlike draw and hope the Paladin never sees Vinecleaver.
Edit: And done. Yeesh, I don't necessarily mind that Brawl but grinding it out is definitely one of the rougher ones.
I got the 5 win Brawl quest and it keeps giving me Mage and there's just no way. You have to essentially get a godlike draw and hope the Paladin never sees Vinecleaver.
Edit: And done. Yeesh, I don't necessarily mind that Brawl but grinding it out is definitely one of the rougher ones.
I just won against aggro druid with freeze mage on turn 8, but I was actually clueless. I had no block left and only had 1 HP and he had 12/13.
After the match I realized I had lethal by attacking my arcanologist and valet into hydra (6 dmg), fireball (6 dmg) to face and ping (1 dmg).
But instead of that, I misplayed, I went face with my minions (4 dmg), fireball (6 dmg) to face, and got lucky with glyph into glyph into flame geyser (2 dmg) and ping. Which I didn't even know it was gonna be lethal.
After the match I realized I had lethal by attacking my arcanologist and valet into hydra (6 dmg), fireball (6 dmg) to face and ping (1 dmg).
But instead of that, I misplayed, I went face with my minions (4 dmg), fireball (6 dmg) to face, and got lucky with glyph into glyph into flame geyser (2 dmg) and ping. Which I didn't even know it was gonna be lethal.
You had even more if you pinged the hydra
Oh I forgot to write that hydra only had 3 HP left, 6 damage is the most I could get from Hydra.
SonicXtreme
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yes and vinecleaver take me to dozen. VC busted and SHD and spikeridge, it's vc good at high level arena wins bc there it's all mages and rogues, and that and lost in the jungle let you spit out 3 tokens per turn so the pings can't stop the train. '6'-0 with a deck that has, one two drop in it.
right now, yes, until next week when we receive another arena ticket and another KFT pack
Doubtful. They'll show a bunch but they still wanna generate hype every day.