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No PS4, Xbox 720 before 2014, says Skyrim boss
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Phonomezer
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daedalius said:
It's sub-HD?
TheExecutive
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People who say the current gen is fine are nuts. I want more fricking memory.
Lovely Salsa
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They have sand in their vaginas.
I'd happily pay 400 bucks for a new console now (not nintendo)
I'd happily pay 400 bucks for a new console now (not nintendo)
Pathetic Basement Virgin
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This is good. I'm playing FF XIII right now & I swear i'm fighting the same 5 enemies over & over.
I NEED SCISSORS
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FTH said:
But my system is better than yours.
Reallink
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By 2014, we will all be hooking our phones/tablets to our TV's (via HDMI or WIHD) and playing games with a BT controller in full 1080p with graphical fidelity far beyond PS360. So, good luck with that Sony/MS. If you can't provide a cutting edge experience, people will stop buying your $60 software, $200 consoles, and over priced accessories.
sixteen-bit
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$200 consoles? What is this, 1995?Reallink said:
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
polyh3dron said:
After seeing the Trackmania² Canyon video, I have to agree. I can only imagine how PC games will look two years out from now while console gamers are playin' in the mud.
TacticalFox88
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I honestly thinks Nintendo should wait too. Economic uncertainty, they need to beef up with Wii U if at all possible, as much as possible.
2K global president Christoph Hartmann recently claimed Microsoft and Sony are already "experimenting" with Kinect and Move for what could be the foundations of their next-generation console plans.
Surprised this wasn't bolded, people would have been shitting their pants in this thread.
Surprised this wasn't bolded, people would have been shitting their pants in this thread.
BlazingDarkness said:
I realy don't think that the 3DS fiasco was about price. The way Nintendo managed to keep the DS price stable for so many years, and have price increases (to resounding success) really shows that much.
Price is only a detrement or boon relative to how it effects the perceived value of the product. The problem with the 3DS was and still is the lack of compelling content and new experiences that capture the public imagination. The 3D has been kind of a flub, and we haven't seen the additionally functionality of the 3DS used in such a way to create a experience for the consumer.
And while the 3DS is much more powerful than a DS, everything else on the market has made that jump look and feel smaller than it should.
Reallink said:
I fear this future, but I'm beginning to feel that, like 'Iphones are eating the portable space', is a myth that will become self fulfilling prophecy through ad nauseum.
Vicetrailia
Member
No biggie to me, I don't plan on following the next wave of consoles for quite some time.
Nintendo was genius then with the WiiU. They entered the HD gen of consoles with a subHD/PS2 equivalent console that was cheaper to make and they went home with all the money. And now that the HD is going on full throttle, they release an HD machine that can satisfy the needs of multi-platforming/3rd party ips. They will not be 2 years alone, they will be on par with the others from now on
PS3 can hold on until 2014 or 15, because of BD and HDD.
But I don't think the 360 can. The RAGE paradigm will hurt it bad.
PS3 can hold on until 2014 or 15, because of BD and HDD.
But I don't think the 360 can. The RAGE paradigm will hurt it bad.
IcyBlueStrawberry
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I seriously hope we don't have to wait 3 more years for new consoles from Sony and MS.
If people think PC elitists are bad now, I don't even want to know what they'll be like in 2014.
If people think PC elitists are bad now, I don't even want to know what they'll be like in 2014.
ThisWreckage
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The PS3 is still 299.99. I think we won't be seeing a new console, at least from Sony, for a while.
Rogue Squadron took 9 months to develop the same with Super Smash Bros. Melee. Rare had about 8/9 months to port Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero to Xbox 360. All that 343i talent can port Halo 4 to a DX11 machine within 11 months. Sega set up new studios, Ubisoft set up new studios. Next-gen is coming it's right around the corner MS isn't going to give Nintendo a free ride for two holidays in a row and I'd be surprised if they even allow them to return to the spotlight for even a single holiday season. Balmer is crazy enough to launch the new 'eco system' Windows 8/Xbox 720/Nokia Windows Phones in one go.Lyphen said:
IcyBlueStrawberry said:
Continuous optimization of a static system can make wonders my friend. The only limit the consoles have is RAM. IF they find a way to surpass that, then the gap will never be too wide between consoles and mainstream PCs
edit: fixed punctuation and spelling
IcyBlueStrawberry
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You seem way too optimistic.Monas said:
If the gap between PC and current gen consoles doesn't widen drastically by 2014, it will be due to a lack of support for PC, not optimizations for consoles.
SneakyStephan
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Even my brother who is a peasant to the core isn't happy with his xbox anymore.
Went on a family visit and he bought 3 new games and he ended up spending all his gaming time playing AOE3 (which I brought along) on our mom's old pc instead.
Guess he eventually got tired of a platform with nothing but shooters, bro games and shovelware on it.
Now he set up a piggy bank (he's only 17
) at her place to save for an entry level gaming pc.
Went on a family visit and he bought 3 new games and he ended up spending all his gaming time playing AOE3 (which I brought along) on our mom's old pc instead.
Guess he eventually got tired of a platform with nothing but shooters, bro games and shovelware on it.
Now he set up a piggy bank (he's only 17
) at her place to save for an entry level gaming pc.
Reallink
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Jin34 said:
Why would they use a standard controller with a console in '13/14/15? Maybe as an accessory (a la Wii Classic Controllers). The inevitable, obvious, and natural progression is to split a Dual Shock in half (remolded for better ergonomics/placement) and track it with a refined Kinect type device. There is no loss in functionality or buttons whatsoever and a tremendous gain for developers and gamers that want to do new things.
Zen said:
Well I think we can all agree that riding poorly designed hardware for 10+ years is certainly not going to fend it off.
SneakyStephan said:Even my brother who is a peasant to the core isn't happy with his xbox anymore.
Went on a family visit and he bought 3 new games and he ended up spending all his gaming time playing AOE3 (which I brought along) on our mom's old pc instead.
Guess he eventually got tired of a platform with nothing but shooters, bro games and shovelware on it.
Now he set up a piggy bank (he's only 17
Lol. So much ignorance.
And AOE3 sucks.
After fall 2011 all you guys will be like: "That's it?" showing little progress between last years AAA games and this years AAA games at least on the console side. They're going to cut corners(actual gameplay features and maps) in Battlefield 3 and Crysis 2 barely runs on the current systems. It's time for new hardware. After Resident Evil 4 no one but Nintendo said: "Well this could go on for another 6 years at least" and they got blasted for it by the core gamers and rightly so.
Thunder Monkey
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The longer they wait the more substantive the jump for reasonable cost.
Dev statements actually kind of make sense now. WiiU looks like it will be a half generational leap, consoles launching a year and a half to two years later will definitely be a step above that. Especially if they go for PS3/360 launch console size.
Dev statements actually kind of make sense now. WiiU looks like it will be a half generational leap, consoles launching a year and a half to two years later will definitely be a step above that. Especially if they go for PS3/360 launch console size.
SneakyStephan
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Good job supporting your argument there.HolyTaco said:
You should apply for president of the debate team.
AOE3 got knocked for being more of the same btw
and I quote from eurogamer : Oh how hilariously familiar this sounds, this is a great conclusion made during an era where standards were much higher.
He chose to play aoe3 over his new copy of halo reach and AC:brotherhood and some splinter cell game btw
AOE3 being a B game for AOE standards just makes it all the more painfull for the "AAA" trash.
Shalashaska161
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I'd love new hardware if only because then we might actually get games running in 1080p. Seriously I'm sick of this sub HD stuff.
[Nintex] said:
Once the average consumer that thinks the graphics on their xbox are fine comes close to the graphics-fetishist-pcmasterrace, then you can be assured that a new console will be released to please the average consumers newfound love of shinies. Until then, the threshold of shinies/dollars will likely not change immensely.
The 720 and PS4 may just be upgraded hardware that can similarly take advantage of uprezzed/upscaled media that high-end PCs can currently attain, without changing much else, but the question is: would the average consumer buy this?
Also, AOE3 over Halo:Reach and AC:Brotherhood? Wow...
It will be, unless you play it on PC.
gunbo13 said:
The same engines will be running on the Wii U as the PS4 and Xbox 3.
The Xbox 3 will be on store shelves in 2013, and the PS4 won't be far behind it.
And I don't know why it constantly needs to be repeated, but console generations are irrespective to their internal hardware.
bigdaddygamebot
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Awesome.
Nothing to even consider buying until 2015 then as far as consoles go.
This is good news.
Nothing to even consider buying until 2015 then as far as consoles go.
This is good news.
Shalashaska161
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I could see it happening if Microsoft really really didn't want to let Nintendo get a year headstart on them. Though it's far more likely that they will just launch in 2013 anyways.Jin34 said:
TheNatural
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I would think so, but maybe Nintendo has changed things. Maybe that's why Nintendo should have STFU at E3. They showed a super early Wii U, that may have prompted Sony and Microsoft to push out their next gen consoles quicker.
Logically, 360 is still selling well and Microsoft wants to push Kinect, so that's why they may want to wait.
PS3 is finally starting recoup its huge R&D and upfront cost, and Sony wants to focus on Vita as well, so logically they may want to wait a while too.
Logically, 360 is still selling well and Microsoft wants to push Kinect, so that's why they may want to wait.
PS3 is finally starting recoup its huge R&D and upfront cost, and Sony wants to focus on Vita as well, so logically they may want to wait a while too.
bigdaddygamebot
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Shalashaska161 said:
The Wii U is not a "headstart".
It's the equivalent of the little boy putting his finger in the dyke.
Microsoft and Sony can both take their time.
I'd like better framerates in my console games, not gonna lie, but that hardly detracts from the fun I usually have. Some inane statements in here though regarding hardcore gaming and wii graphics.
It will be interesting to to see what the sales charts bring in as well as the WiiU splash (well, that or trickle). I'm a bit in the middle when it comes to when next gen talk will come up, maybe E3 2012, maybe not.
It will be interesting to to see what the sales charts bring in as well as the WiiU splash (well, that or trickle). I'm a bit in the middle when it comes to when next gen talk will come up, maybe E3 2012, maybe not.
Shalashaska161 said:
You can't just surprise launch a console like that now, 3rd parties would know by now if 2012 was a possibility, there would be rumors pointing to it and the hardware rumors in fact point to 2013/2014. One of them even mentioned how it was 2014 (Xbox) originally but is being pushed up to 2013 because of the Wii U.
Deadly Joker
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I want new consoles next year, please.
SneakyStephan said:Good job supporting your argument there.
You should apply for president of the debate team.
AOE3 got knocked for being more of the same btw
Oh how hilariously familiar this sounds, this is a great conclusion made during an era where standards were much higher.
He chose to play aoe3 over his new copy of halo reach and AC:brotherhood and some splinter cell game btw
AOE3 being a B game for AOE standards just makes it all the more painfull for the "AAA" trash.
Well its his loss of not playing those good games [excluding splinter cell].
and just because some one prefer aoe 3 over halo reach , how does that make it all painfull for games like halo reach n AC B
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and any reason for you calling these games as trash especially halo reach ? which is one of the best fps after crysis i have played this gen. !
Lovely Salsa said:
I'm not sure how many developers want to spend the millions it would run to develop for the new systems, especially with the economy in free fall right now. Most people say the 2008 recession did impact the video game market, this current issue could be worse as you have some people and businesses that never recovered from 2008.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Wouldn't it be ironic if MS and Sony went with waggle controls being standard for next gen while Nintendo goes back to a more tradtional controller like with what we have for WiiU?