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Waypoint: Inside the Sexual Misconduct Allegations Rocking NeoGAF's Last 48 Hours
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J-Roderton
Member
Rockin
Conor_Fool
Banned
Will be interesting to see if this gets a lock, considering Tyler spoke to the journalist
I think the thing that will do the most damage is trying to ban away any discussion about this.
SpideySenses
Member
Zero reason this should be locked, we'll see.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE JUNIORS
MrToast
Member
I've posted here before, and the junior status has nothing to do with it, there is always 2 sides to a story.
The biggest issue is how this whole thing was handled. Frankly, if we assume every accusation is true, he could easily admit to it as being a mistake on his part. Its not like this was an incident of rape or sexual assault.
And if she is not telling the truth, he could just as easily say she isnt. But trying to ban away any discussion is just doing far more damage.
Conor_Fool
Banned
Was OP just banned for this thread?
Lookin' that way.
keep your Off Topic out of this Gaming Discussion!!!!!
Evilore's response to the allegations reek of narcissism, sociopath, and an overinflated ego that signals that he truly thinks he can do no wrong. What a disaster, what a horrible human being, and I hope everything turns out fine for the woman involved, long-term. And remember, the most powerful thing you can say to a victim of abuse is "I believe you".
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Where is blamespace?
MrToast
Member
Even if it is somewhat true, he deserves a second chance, people have done worse. Besides that point, we need to hear from he man himself in full, as there is 2 sides to the story.
JoeyJungle
Banned
OP wut happened
Agreed. The whole shower ordeal sounds like something that could be a drunken misunderstanding and his grab-ass while drunk (noticing a theme) comes across as trying to puff up the "damn at some dank party, booze is flowin, sex is happenin!"braggadocio . A more straightforward, humble and timely mea culpa would have saved GAF. Instead a series of bad choices about older bad choices fucked it all up.
Now stuff about (former) mods feeling unsupported by EL or how GAF seemed to lack a steady hand in tackling what is a more toxic, more extreme to the left/right environment, seems like a bigger issue?
He's in a better place now.
Mod edit looks like some doxxing was done, but who knows.
It's fun to see the piles of GG people coming out of the woodwork to celebrate the removal of Off Topic.
"Let's just have fun with video games" has always been a rallying cry to remove/ignore marginalized people and issues, and now it's become GAF's policy.
I'm thankful that GAF came back, though, because it gives me an opportunity to properly log off and never come back.
"Let's just have fun with video games" has always been a rallying cry to remove/ignore marginalized people and issues, and now it's become GAF's policy.
I'm thankful that GAF came back, though, because it gives me an opportunity to properly log off and never come back.
Gray Matter
Member
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It's a videogame forum. Not tumblr.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
They won in the end.
They can't.
It happened in almost every thread about A Hat in Time. It's almost like they don't want to talk about video games. Fuckin awful.
Hasn't he been sticking to OT for awhile?
The Hermit
Member
Souless_PJ
Banned
In this article it states that they had consensual sex at a different time after the shower incident.
So if she was creeped out so much then youd have to wonder why would this occur after the fact..
As with everything its not black and white.
So if she was creeped out so much then youd have to wonder why would this occur after the fact..
As with everything its not black and white.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
Yeah !!!! She slept with him after, so it was consensual all along.
#minorityreport
Captains Curse
Banned
You're a garbage person for saying this. Hope no one tries to take advantage of you next time you're vulnerable.
SoulUnison
Banned
NeoGAF is one of the biggest forums on the internet, and video games have always been a hot button scapegoat.
The way we compose ourselves right now could be used to affect the very nature of the internet, going forward.
There's a whole hotbed of important principles and issues on display right in front of us, but it goes way beyond "video games" or any specific incident.
Let's set a good precedent, think critically, and consider our words.
Don't prove the internet a mistake to people with the power to make it so.
The way we compose ourselves right now could be used to affect the very nature of the internet, going forward.
There's a whole hotbed of important principles and issues on display right in front of us, but it goes way beyond "video games" or any specific incident.
Let's set a good precedent, think critically, and consider our words.
Don't prove the internet a mistake to people with the power to make it so.
D1renegade
Member
This x100
As for the topic at hand, this whole meltdown really couldve been avoided had Evilore been quicker with a statement and not tried sweeping discussions about the issue under a rug.
The alleged incident is rather tame compared to the other sexual harassment allegations that have dominated the recent news cycle. He couldve come back from this a few days ago, but now? Im not sure.
cryptosporidium
Member
One piece crew where u at
Crash55118
Member
A person has the right to say no at any point, be it causal acquaintances, or married for decades. Situations change and relationships evolve - but your logic is why the #metoo hashtag is important.
MrToast
Member
You don't know me and you don't know the real full story, nice try and enjoy the ban.
nickinerdface
Banned
hey i'm a junior and i think evilore should retire bitch
Arkage
Banned
The two interesting component of this article were
1) It claims many mods left due to wariness from a delay on the public statement rather than some outright call-to-arms revolt. Of course there are other articles (kotaku) that characterize their actions as trying to signal solidarity with the woman. I imagine it was a mix of the two.
2) Some of the details make this story even more strange. There were open relationship statuses (though apparently only for one gender). There was a continued relationship which turned into physical intimacy after this supposedly scaring assault. It seems more like a misread of the timing more than anything else.
1) It claims many mods left due to wariness from a delay on the public statement rather than some outright call-to-arms revolt. Of course there are other articles (kotaku) that characterize their actions as trying to signal solidarity with the woman. I imagine it was a mix of the two.
2) Some of the details make this story even more strange. There were open relationship statuses (though apparently only for one gender). There was a continued relationship which turned into physical intimacy after this supposedly scaring assault. It seems more like a misread of the timing more than anything else.
But, there was already a self admitted other sexual assault instance. So this is Chance 2, and this response, especially said in this article is a whole other chance gone. Could have taken the high and mature road and had a better, more empathetic response. If it truly was a mistake or he regretted what he did, Im definitely not seeing it in what was said here.
She said "no" and he got out, lol. I'm not denying that the guy has some issues but this whole mess has been so overblown.
RocketRaccoon
Banned
Don't agree with Evilore = ban. Simples.
MrToast
Member
This is the thing though, how do we know if 'chance 2' is real? This story could literally be fake news.
ChosenPredator
Banned
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overblown but this place has culivated SJW mob mentality/witch-hunting so it's exactly how i imagine. lol
Then in my opinion Chance 2 was this response. Its been the worst response I could imagine for this.