Lamel
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Freeza after tournament
This disgusts me.
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This disgusts me.
I don't mind the idea of Frieza being here, but I'm worried the writers won't be able to find something new and interesting to do with him, and they haven't given me a reason to believe that yet. And yes, I've argued that Frieza shouldn't change because he has been established many times as a character who can never see the error in his ways, and that's what makes it so difficult to write him into the story again. The things that made him such a perfect villain on Namik make it nearly impossible to do anything new with the character afterwards.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just can't think of anywhere else the character can be taken without it feeling out of character or a retread of the past. Frieza has the most to prove in this arc, because he doesn't have a place in the story unlike everyone else on U7.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Still better than those three dancing rappers from GT.
This arc has so much potential.
a) Frieza's betrayal
b) U7 campers get eliminated via a massive ki blast
c) U7 campers survive and eventually win
d) Goku new form allows him to challenge Zeno's guards
e) Grand Priest reveals himself as the main villain of the arc
f) There's someone more powerful than Zeno
I could go on and on. I hope the show's writers give us something really awesome.
P.S. I can't find a good Kale pic to use as avatar
I'd argue Frieza becoming a God of Destruction, or trying to would be big for Frieza's character.
I'm conflicted. I want a SSJ2 Caulifla avatar, but I want to keep my Kat avatar.
Icyflamez96
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I don't know if it was talked about here, but apparently a more recent version of the Goku transformation poster was released with text that translates to
or something.
"something terrible happens"
Do you guys think Roshi might die? I'm remembering how surprisingly somber that scene was of him visiting Yajirobe & Korin
AlimNassor
Banned
Goku rips his pants?
ArchedThunder
Banned
It's been explained that the soul doesn't go anywhere, it ceases to exist, so it's very unclear if Super Shenron could even bring someone back that's been erased.
I was talking about regular death
RocknRola
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True, true. I imagine that on toys, shirts and that sort of stuff they must make a fortune now that the franchise is back in full force.
MiguelMexMIstery
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I may be alone in this but does anyone else think Champa's acting like an ass during this tournament? He was ok in his arc and the baseball episode, but here so far he seems hellbent on getting U7 and Beerus erased, even going as far as to support other Universes. Like, darn dude, this is your brother we're talking about, the one that wasted a Super Dragon Ball wish on your Universe!
Freeza after tournament
Lmao. Imagine Freezer becoming the "Piccolo" to Vegeta's family.
Mediking
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Freeza after tournament
??? Guy nearly destroyed Namek.... actually destroyed Krillin... I'm sick.
Byakuya769
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Vegeta's rap sheet isn't much better.
Chaotic-Strike
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Well, I don't think it's possible for you to be satisfied with Freeza no matter what they'll do with him. You've made it clear you don't want him to become a better character by operating differently than he did in the Namek arc or ROF. He'll either be the same as he was or be ruined if his character evolves differently. They literally can't win.
I think the important thing is that they've done his character justice in his recruitment episodes and have set up tons of potential along the line for his character to evolve from Namek era self. In a similar way, Vegeta and Piccolo and any of the other former villains changed from their initial appearance. The groundwork is there now all they need to do is make sure they don't ruin the potential from this point forward.
Mediking
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Vegeta redeemed himself though.
Chaotic-Strike
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Tien and Chiaotzu never got their justice though.
flaxknuckles
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Nappa killed them and then Vegeta killed Nappa. Justice served!
He was trying to raise U7's mortal level.
Undead Fantasy
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Lol you're right.
Chaotic-Strike
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That can't be true though it was Vegeta who ordered it and was the reason they were there in the first place.
It must be karma that Vegeta has to stomach Freeza for this latest tournament. After all he now knows how Tien felt when the Z fighters let Vegeta off during the Android saga.
Undead Fantasy
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Him wanting to rule over Zeno pretty much tells us he won't change.
RocknRola
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Yup. Hope they don't forget about that or the Frost+Freeza subplot either.
Piccolo still wanted to conquer Earth by the android saga, which was 1 reincarnation and 1 resurrection after his introduction
I think Freeza is more or less in line with this
Fulminator
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I like how Freeza is wearing clothes in every picture except the one where he's holding BraFreeza after tournament
Also Freeza looks weird in clothes, but it's also weird that he's naked all the time
DiipuSurotu
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That very well may be the case. I've made it very clear that I think Frieza has been written into a corner, brought back twice and he refused to change his approach in the slightest both times, where can he go now that isn't a repeat of the past or him acting out of character? The only natural and different path I can imagine for Frieza is if he becomes the Starscream to another villain, scheming to take over but never succeeding(and honestly I think that would be great, I would gladly say I was wrong for doubting the writers if something like that happens).
Piccolo and Vegeta are very different, because right after they were the villain they start playing supporting roles. They had a natural development into their more heroic roles by showing they can change instead of doubling down on how they were before.
Mediking
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Lmao I am truly a casual DBZ fan...
I just remembered how cool it was to see Goku and Vegeta first fight. I remember playing Budokai on GameCube. Goku did this super awesome pose and Vegeta did a super awesome pose then Vegeta lunged at him. Man, that was hype. The game did a cool camera angle thing where you saw it from Goku's perspective for a moment.
I just remembered how cool it was to see Goku and Vegeta first fight. I remember playing Budokai on GameCube. Goku did this super awesome pose and Vegeta did a super awesome pose then Vegeta lunged at him. Man, that was hype. The game did a cool camera angle thing where you saw it from Goku's perspective for a moment.
LiamExe
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I wonder, is it better or worse that he ditched the armour and black speedos he was wearing in his subsequent forms? lol
Interview with Sean Schemmel and Jason Douglas.
http://geekandsundry.com/dragon-ball-super-actors-reflect-on-the-animes-legacy-and-tease-its-future/
A few interesting tidbits come up in this interview. Discussion range from their overall thoughts on Dragon Ball and Goku as a character to Goku Black to the current Multiversal tournament.
http://geekandsundry.com/dragon-ball-super-actors-reflect-on-the-animes-legacy-and-tease-its-future/
A few interesting tidbits come up in this interview. Discussion range from their overall thoughts on Dragon Ball and Goku as a character to Goku Black to the current Multiversal tournament.
JadedWriter
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So dub Kale to be voiced by Vic Mignogna?
Slayer-33
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BAEEEEE
ArchedThunder
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Sean says he might tweak his Goku Black voice, thank god.
Hopefully they go with one voice too, instead of Rose having a completely different voice like in XV2.
Undead Fantasy
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Thank fucking god.
Icyflamez96
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sick
I thought I was obvious they didn't know who Black was back then. The only thing in question is how they didn't know by the time of the new DLC campaign.
Context adds a lot.
To be more specific, he said he's changing his Goku Black to sound more like the english Zamasu voice-actor and teased it would be "quasi-British".
Undead Fantasy
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RoF 2.
Icyflamez96
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^
The fuck is wrong with Toei?? You cant expect someone to do their job properly if you don't give them all the tools they need to do it. That's like asking someone to build a doghouse out of wood but without a hammer or saw.
Yeah, if he just uses the Rose voice then its all good.
The fuck is wrong with Toei?? You cant expect someone to do their job properly if you don't give them all the tools they need to do it. That's like asking someone to build a doghouse out of wood but without a hammer or saw.
Yeah, if he just uses the Rose voice then its all good.
Really surprised to hear that Sean hasn't met Toriyama. I guess I didn't imagine AT being so introverted.
But he told us he's been doing this for years and he knows Goku better than anyone?
Anyways, glad to see him kinda owning his error. His Rose voice is perfect, just use that. The "praise" he mentions comes from his Rose voice
Undead Fantasy
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Is it? I just don't understand how the transformation can change his voice.
I'm sure other VA's won't do that like the Latin dub one.
It doesn't. Rose came far later than Black did in XV2 so by then they had an idea of what Black should be like, it's a small course correction.
Undead Fantasy
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I still don't understand why the voice is different than Goku's. Rose sounds like a completely different character in the English dub.
But Rose is an eloquent, sinister tone of Goku's English voice just like it works in JP.
It was the Bale Batman voice that was the problem.
Undead Fantasy
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Nowaza didn't sound like a different character.
ArchedThunder
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I hope by quasi-British be means the Rose voice with the ham turned down 4 notches.
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