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Muffin1611
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(06-19-2017, 07:15 PM)
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So this basically went GAF->Kotaku->GAF

Last week, a poster on the message board NeoGAF asked why South Park: The Fractured But Whole was taking so long to develop. After all, isn’t 2D easy to draw? “First and foremost,” the poster wrote, “the game uses the same graphical style as the show. Which is probably the easiest to make.” Well, my dear Mousnis, making a crummy-looking 2D game can be complicated.

The new South Park game, which comes out in October, has been in development for nearly three years. The developers at Ubisoft San Francisco have already delayed it at least once (from last December) and while the process has been smoother than the last game, Obsidian’s Stick of Truth, it’s still enormously complicated.

More at the link.

Thread by Mousnis mentioned in the article

My favorite bit:

Jason Schreier: I actually saw someone on the internet today—and you know people on the Internet are very nice—

Jason Schroeder: They are. They’re actually very well-informed.

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Fat4all
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(06-19-2017, 07:17 PM)
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get dunked, Mousnis
Markitron
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(06-19-2017, 07:19 PM)
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I remember how Trey and Matt talked about how hard the first one was running up to it's release.
The Boat
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(06-19-2017, 07:19 PM)
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Oh snap! I remember that post.
SamuelSupreme
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(06-19-2017, 07:19 PM)
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Maybe I should make a Gaming News site and Just pilfer stories from Gaf.
BronsonLee
(06-19-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Schreier v Schroeder
aBarreras
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(06-19-2017, 07:20 PM)
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can someone link the post?
Fat4all
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(06-19-2017, 07:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by aBarreras

can someone link the post?

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1389901
Muffin1611
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(06-19-2017, 07:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by aBarreras

can someone link the post?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1389901

There you go, is linked in the article also

I'll add it to the OP
Neuromancer
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(06-19-2017, 07:23 PM)
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That was an embarrassing post. Oh well, hopefully Mousnis will learn from this.
Madness
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(06-19-2017, 07:23 PM)
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Hold this L user Mousnis...
aBarreras
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(06-19-2017, 07:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fat4all

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1389901

Originally Posted by Muffin1611

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1389901

There you go, is linked in the article also

I'll add it to the OP

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1389901

thank you all, lol

i find it funny how the op thinks that assets from the show can be used on the game, they probably can, but it wont be as easy as copy - paste
MrSaturn99
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(06-19-2017, 07:24 PM)
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hahaha oh wow
Gravy100
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(06-19-2017, 07:25 PM)
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Love that Schreier basically called that one guy out using the full extent of his journo powers
Alexander DeLarge
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(06-19-2017, 07:25 PM)
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What I want to know is why not Obsidian again? Why the new development team?
The Hermit
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(06-19-2017, 07:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by BronsonLee

Schreier v Schroeder

Until this post I though it was a quote from the same guy

Originally Posted by Gravy100

Love that Schreier basically called that one guy out using the full extent of his journo powers

Yup, the ultimate burn
The Jackdog
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(06-19-2017, 07:30 PM)
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20 seasons of this show have taught me to not care about any dates they put out and be happy knowing itll be good at WORST whenever i get some south park
NinjaCoachZ
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(06-19-2017, 07:32 PM)
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"Developers from Activision, EA, Ubisoft, and More Tell Why a 7-Year IP Isn't As Plausible As You Think"
"Nomura on Kingdom Hearts Spoilers: 'Honestly, Did Anyone Really Think We'd Kill Goofy?'"
"We Asked the Splatoon 2 Developers About People Who Think It's a Port And They Laughed"

Those headlines are free, Jason.
BiggNife
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(06-19-2017, 07:39 PM)
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I honestly kind of feel bad for how badly Mousnis got roasted
Abilidebob
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(06-19-2017, 07:40 PM)

Jason Schreier: I actually saw someone on the internet today—and you know people on the Internet are very nice—

Jason Schroeder: They are. They’re actually very well-informed.

I kept asking myself why did you put 2 quotes by the press sneak-fuck there. It took me a while to realize it's Schreier and Schroeder.
wrowa
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(06-19-2017, 07:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alexander DeLarge

What I want to know is why not Obsidian again? Why the new development team?

Most publishers generally prefer putting their own internal teams on a project over contracting an independent studio. Keep in mind that Stick of Truth originally started at THQ before getting passed over to Ubisoft after THQ's demise.
Barrel Cannon
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(06-19-2017, 07:44 PM)
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Anything 2D that requires it to be touched up by hand for each frame is a lot of work. Kids these days don't know the crazy amount of time it took for Disney movies back in the day
The Last Wizard
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(06-19-2017, 07:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alexander DeLarge

What I want to know is why not Obsidian again? Why the new development team?

Probably money reasons:(

Cheaper to use your own devs than an independent dev.
ryseing
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(06-19-2017, 07:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by NinjaCoachZ

"Developers from Activision, EA, Ubisoft, and More Tell Why a 7-Year IP Isn't As Plausible As You Think"
"Nomura on Kingdom Hearts Spoilers: 'Honestly, Did Anyone Really Think We'd Kill Goofy?'"
"We Asked the Splatoon 2 Developers About People Who Think It's a Port And They Laughed"

Those headlines are free, Jason.

I'm looking forward to PSF's book, but not gonna lie, I would love for his next one to be entirely articles like those.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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(06-19-2017, 07:54 PM)
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Well yeah


and lol NeoGaf threads making the news. Congrats
Gaz Pwnage
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(06-19-2017, 07:58 PM)
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The ignorance in the original guys post is astounding.

A classic example of somebody attempting to comment on something they have literally no idea about.
Iva Demilcol
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(06-19-2017, 07:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by SamuelSupreme

Maybe I should make a Gaming News site and Just pilfer stories from Gaf.

I imagine some of your headlines:

"gamers claim videogame developers are lazy"
blame space
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(06-19-2017, 08:02 PM)
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staring into the endless abyss
Cess007
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(06-19-2017, 08:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by NinjaCoachZ

"Nomura on Kingdom Hearts Spoilers: 'Honestly, Did Anyone Really Think We'd Kill Goofy?'"

Those headlines are free, Jason.

LMAO

Originally Posted by BiggNife

I honestly kind of feel bad for how badly Mousnis got roasted

I don't. Hopefully people will learn a bit about hard make game is before posting "lazy devs" and such things.
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blame space
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(06-19-2017, 08:05 PM)
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I'm so excited for this game.
Vibed
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(06-19-2017, 08:06 PM)
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Too many Gaffers like to think they're experts. Only Gold members are experts.
NoblesseOblige
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(06-19-2017, 08:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by BiggNife

I honestly kind of feel bad for how badly Mousnis got roasted

I don't. I'm actually a bit jealous.
Modoru
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(06-19-2017, 08:10 PM)
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I didn't know you could make articles based off of random internet user's misinformation. I think I just found my new way of making a living.

Time to make momma proud.
Falchion
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(06-19-2017, 09:01 PM)
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I would think it would be tougher because they can't create their own art style that might be easier to implement, they have to exactly match the aesthetic of a show and all its movements and nuisances.
KennyLinder
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(06-19-2017, 09:07 PM)
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Naive thread it may have been, but writing an article on Kotaku? I feel it says more about them.
Pantaghana
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(06-19-2017, 09:12 PM)
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I imagine art assets are simple (when compared to full 3D titles) to make.

Everything else, writing, scripting, animation, level design, encounter design, voicework, etc... That stuff takes time.
FloatOn
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(06-19-2017, 09:14 PM)
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when will my threads be on kotaku
Joe Shlabotnik
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(06-19-2017, 09:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Modoru

I didn't know you could make articles based off of random internet user's misinformation. I think I just found my new way of making a living.

Time to make momma proud.

The silver lining to Mousnis' economy-size L delivery is that the point of the article is "hey, why DOES it take so long to make a South Park game, anyway?"
PSY・S
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(06-19-2017, 10:23 PM)

Originally Posted by KennyLinder

Naive thread it may have been, but writing an article on Kotaku? I feel it says more about them.

He.. might be a journalist?
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(06-19-2017, 10:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by KennyLinder

Naive thread it may have been, but writing an article on Kotaku? I feel it says more about them.

okay yoda
mindsale
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(06-19-2017, 10:29 PM)
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Kotaku: Cribbing neoGAF posts since 2005.
bitbydeath
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(06-19-2017, 11:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by BronsonLee

Schreier v Schroeder

Press 'X' to Jason
SuperDowns
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(06-19-2017, 11:40 PM)
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KOTAKU > GAF > KOTAKU?
UserDoesNotExist
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(06-19-2017, 11:43 PM)
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Journalists should be *really* careful about calling out others on this. (Source: being a theoretical physicist and wanting to gouge my eyes out any time a games journalist talks about "The Science of X".)
xzeldax3
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(06-20-2017, 12:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by bitbydeath

Press 'X' to Jason

Damnnnnn this is good
Linkura
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(06-20-2017, 12:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Falchion

I would think it would be tougher because they can't create their own art style that might be easier to implement, they have to exactly match the aesthetic of a show and all its movements and nuisances.

You know, they could just not give a shit like the early South Park games.... ;)
TheLegendaryDarkKnight
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(06-20-2017, 12:40 AM)
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Talk about going full circle.
Admiral Woofington
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(06-20-2017, 12:46 AM)
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Jason you should at least take Mousnis to the TGI Fridays around the corner, because he likes to at least get wined and dined before he gets fucked.

dankest south park references
The Jazz Cabbage Master
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(06-20-2017, 12:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by KennyLinder

Naive thread it may have been, but writing an article on Kotaku? I feel it says more about them.

Maybe devs should be defended against shitty ideas that undermine the hard work they put in? Crazy thought, I know.
Velocity:Design:Comfort
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(06-20-2017, 01:07 AM)
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I will think twice before my next shitposting thread, I guess.

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