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bud23
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(06-18-2017, 06:06 PM)
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https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status...teamspy.com%2F




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"Save Open IV" petition on Change.org has already been signed by 42k people and counting

Maybe itīs time for Rockstar to update their pathetic statement full of lies, and treat their fans with some respect

Bring The Benz back if old
Kade
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(06-18-2017, 06:07 PM)
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Benz en route

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1393227
Zeneric
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(06-18-2017, 06:08 PM)
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aka don't fuck with fans.
bananafactory
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(06-18-2017, 06:08 PM)
I don't support Rockstar/Take Two's decision but man this is just another example of why Steam reviews are such trash.
Alex Stroud
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(06-18-2017, 06:11 PM)
T2 Employee: Sir! The Steam rating just dipped to Mixed. MIXED!

T2 Exec: *pauses counting money* Oh? Huh. *resumes counting money.
bud23
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(06-18-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kade

Benz en route

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1393227

Well shit

The Darkness
Spauldingxx
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(06-18-2017, 06:14 PM)
Lol what I miss? Why the sudden negativity?
BobLoblaw
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(06-18-2017, 06:14 PM)
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But everyone's already bought the game. This should've been a thing years ago. We all saw where it was going to GTA:O. :|
AlanOC91
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(06-18-2017, 06:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by BobLoblaw

But everyone's already bought the game. This should've been a thing years ago. We all saw where it was going to GTA:O. :|

How.... Did we all see that they would suddenly ban SP mods?

Seriously now?
Comrade Crunch
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(06-18-2017, 06:19 PM)
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*looks at steam charts*

4th highest played game.

Yeah, seems like this is definitely gonna make T2 take notice.[/s]
Van Bur3n
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(06-18-2017, 06:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spauldingxx

Lol what I miss? Why the sudden negativity?

Take-Two has deemed modding GTA V "illegal" (including just the single player) or something and sent a modder a cease and desist letter or something.

Basically, Take-Two are being unreasonable asshats.
Crimsonclaw111
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(06-18-2017, 06:22 PM)
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Keep going, I'd have contributed but I bought it via Nuuvem for $25 at launch so I can't destroy the Steam page.

Fuck take two
LelouchZero
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(06-18-2017, 06:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by bananafactory

I don't support Rockstar/Take Two's decision but man this is just another example of why Steam reviews are such trash.

How else can fans express their disapproval for their actions? Being passive gets you nowhere, being vocal about things sends a message.

I myself am not fond of utilizing Steam reviews in questionable ways, as at this point you're not exactly reviewing the game. Fortunately there are many reviews already written on Steam prior to recent events if you wanted to view them.

As I mentioned in another thread:

Originally Posted by LelouchZero

If you don't say anything people will just walk all over you, or be oblivious to certain things.

Vocal communities like this are good, if the reviews have to get hammered then so be it. It's about sending a message.

Vocal communities opened Bandai Namco's and Sega's eyes to the market available on the PC, they expressed their disapproval for paid mods which caused them to get pulled. (Which may have recently made a return).

There are many other things vocal communities have done which have lead to positive things.

What became of some of them? Sega brought more games to PC, Dark Souls and it's sequels came to PC, many publishers have since acknowledged that there is a huge market for their games on PCs, and that's because the community was vocal about it.

EDIT: I would like to mention that I am for the concept of compensating mod creators, how a lot of people handled the paid mods thing was wrong, including attacking mod creators for getting involved and advocating for it's removal entirely. This was actually a bad thing overall, as adjustments weren't made to the system and people had conflicting interests. Perhaps this is a showcase of a bad outcome from the vocal community?

My issue with it was that I thought the cut of mod creators was a bit low. Mods have helped sell copies of games, an example would be a mod such as DayZ for Arma 2.

Fortunately it appears to have returned in a more polished state, with Bethesda's Creators Club, I'd like to see what becomes of it.

Spring-Loaded
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(06-18-2017, 06:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Comrade Crunch

*looks at steam charts*

4th highest played game.

Yeah, seems like this is definitely gonna make T2 take notice.[/s]

They have noticed
Comrade Crunch
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(06-18-2017, 06:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spring-Loaded

They have noticed

By shutting more things down?
Spring-Loaded
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(06-18-2017, 06:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Comrade Crunch

By shutting more things down?

They released a statement indicating that they've noticed
piratethingy
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(06-18-2017, 06:27 PM)
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Why do people assume big companies don't care about profits because they're already making bank? I promise you Take 2 would rather make 11billion than 10 next year.

(That being said I don't think this particular issue probably concerns them much)
Tecnniqe
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(06-18-2017, 06:28 PM)

Originally Posted by bananafactory

I don't support Rockstar/Take Two's decision but man this is just another example of why Steam reviews are such trash.

Wrooooong

BernardoOne
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(06-18-2017, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by bananafactory

I don't support Rockstar/Take Two's decision but man this is just another example of why Steam reviews are such trash.

Nah. A game with publisher that try to do this kind of shit deserve negative reviews.
Jack The Nipper
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(06-18-2017, 06:30 PM)
Just don't buy thier next game if you don't like what they are doing. They don't make good games imo.

They use to make good games with midnight club, bully.
The Lamp
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(06-18-2017, 06:32 PM)
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Jokes on you, Take Two. I was gonna double dip on the PC for mods and now I'm not. Bye ✋️
Azure Phoenix
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(06-18-2017, 06:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by LelouchZero

How else can fans express their disapproval for their actions? Being passive gets you nowhere, being vocal about things sends a message.

Halve their shark card revenue from the PC version of the game. That is the way you can have a clear impact unlike other wishy washy methods like vague boycotts or some negative reviews which won't impact their bottom line.
Kssio_Aug
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(06-18-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Azure Phoenix

Halve their shark card revenue from the PC version of the game. That is the way you can have a clear impact unlike other wishy washy methods like vague boycotts or some negative reviews which won't impact their bottom line.

Vastly negative reviews may impact their sales from now on. And it's a good way to send the message. I think that's a good form of protest in this situation.
Steve o 3000
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(06-18-2017, 06:45 PM)
mazillion
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(06-18-2017, 06:46 PM)
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That user reviews graph gave me a good laugh
Freeman76
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(06-18-2017, 06:47 PM)
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Kids literally throwing their toys out the pram
Salty Rice
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(06-18-2017, 06:50 PM)
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PhantomThief
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(06-18-2017, 06:51 PM)

Originally Posted by Azure Phoenix

Halve their shark card revenue from the PC version of the game. That is the way you can have a clear impact unlike other wishy washy methods like vague boycotts or some negative reviews which won't impact their bottom line.

Right. And how exactly would one consumer go about this? To tell the sharks to stop dropping money?

I'd be happy to wait while you come up with a way.
darkinstinct
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(06-18-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kssio_Aug

Vastly negative reviews may impact their sales from now on. And it's a good way to send the message. I think that's a good form of protest in this situation.

It's a stupid way. This childish behaviour will just make Valve kill reviews for good, the only working curation of content there is. All Rockstar will think is PC gaming was a mistake. It's not like they need those 8 out of 80 million sales. And I guess the majority of users are pretty damn thankful in the first place for stopping mods, because only a minority uses them and they don't like being griefed upon, which is why Rockstar shut down Open IV in the first place. This is just a vocal stupid minority abusing the review system. Go to Twitter, send nuts to their office, do what normal people do.
PhantomThief
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(06-18-2017, 06:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Freeman76

Kids literally throwing their toys out the pram

You're insinuating these people do not have a point?
Dabanton
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(06-18-2017, 06:52 PM)
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I thought R* was OK as long as mods were for SP only and did not interfere with GTA:Online
RedHill
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(06-18-2017, 06:53 PM)
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They've made so much money from the game and it's almost four years old, who gives a shit if people are modding it? Especially since they've done nothing to update single player
PhantomThief
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(06-18-2017, 06:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Dabanton

I thought R* was OK as long as mods were for SP only and did not interfere with GTA:Online

R* is, they have even advertised mods on their blog.

It's take2 throwing a fit here.
Fata1moose
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(06-18-2017, 06:54 PM)
What was the mod? I've seen Skyrim mods that shouldn't be allowed to exist, some enforcement from developers isn't a bad thing.
GlamFM
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(06-18-2017, 06:55 PM)
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This will hurt R* badly. Millions of people are still on the fence and looking at steam reviews for guidance.

R* is probably in full panic mode right now.
Nintenleo
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(06-18-2017, 06:56 PM)
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Take 2 right now

Trojita
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(06-18-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fata1moose

What was the mod? I've seen Skyrim mods that shouldn't be allowed to exist, some enforcement from developers isn't a bad thing.

What
Pantaghana
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(06-18-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by darkinstinct

It's a stupid way. This childish behaviour will just make Valve kill reviews for good, the only working curation of content there is.

Voicing your opinion as a consumer is not childish, and no they won't do that because of a single game, no matter how popular that game is.

Originally Posted by darkinstinct

All Rockstar will think is PC gaming was a mistake. It's not like they need those 8 out of 80 million sales. And I guess the majority of users are pretty damn thankful in the first place for stopping mods, because only a minority uses them and they don't like being griefed upon, which is why Rockstar shut down Open IV in the first place. This is just a vocal stupid minority abusing the review system. Go to Twitter, send nuts to their office, do what normal people do.

OpenIV disabled multiplayer so griefeing other players was impossible, unless you hacked the mod itself, but if you are going to go through that much trouble to grief other players, there are other multiplayer friendly tools which didn't get a C&D.
PhantomThief
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(06-18-2017, 06:57 PM)

Originally Posted by GlamFM

This will hurt R* badly. Millions of people are still on the fence and looking at steam reviews for guidance.

R* is probably in full panic mode right now.

Why so sarcastic? Why act like this isn't a dick move on Take2's part especially since Rockstar has featured mods on their blog advocating its use?
Kssio_Aug
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(06-18-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by darkinstinct

It's a stupid way. This childish behaviour will just make Valve kill reviews for good, the only working curation of content there is. All Rockstar will think is PC gaming was a mistake. It's not like they need those 8 out of 80 million sales. And I guess the majority of users are pretty damn thankful in the first place for stopping mods, because only a minority uses them and they don't like being griefed upon, which is why Rockstar shut down Open IV in the first place. This is just a vocal stupid minority abusing the review system. Go to Twitter, send nuts to their office, do what normal people do.

Do you really think Valve is going to kill reviews because people are protesting in the reviews for a tremenduous stupidity of Take 2? And people are writing it there "good game, but removing mod support is insulting". And you can bet that this minority is very expressive if this is having such an impact. There's nothing childish in expressing your opinion about a game you bought, specially in this low move situation.
sn00zer
(06-18-2017, 06:57 PM)
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This means absolutely nothing since everyone who wants GTA5 has it already so its not like they are going to lose sales.
Sora the Cat
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(06-18-2017, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fata1moose

What was the mod? I've seen Skyrim mods that shouldn't be allowed to exist, some enforcement from developers isn't a bad thing.

Every mod is considered illegal from now on...
Permanently A
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(06-18-2017, 06:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Azure Phoenix

Halve their shark card revenue from the PC version of the game. That is the way you can have a clear impact unlike other wishy washy methods like vague boycotts or some negative reviews which won't impact their bottom line.

So how are R* and Take Two supposed to know that halved revenue is a result of a protest against banning mods?
BernardoOne
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(06-18-2017, 06:59 PM)

Originally Posted by darkinstinct

It's a stupid way. This childish behaviour will just make Valve kill reviews for good, the only working curation of content there is. All Rockstar will think is PC gaming was a mistake. It's not like they need those 8 out of 80 million sales. And I guess the majority of users are pretty damn thankful in the first place for stopping mods, because only a minority uses them and they don't like being griefed upon, which is why Rockstar shut down Open IV in the first place. This is just a vocal stupid minority abusing the review system. Go to Twitter, send nuts to their office, do what normal people do.

"Griefed upon" WHAT THE FUCK? You realize that OpenIV doesn't, and hasn't ever worked online, yes?

It's also hardly childish behaviour. The game is shit without mods. I wouldn't recommend anyone the game without them. I wouldn't recommend even more supporting any kind of low piece of shit like Take Two that threatens people with legal action because of mods. The negative reviews are deserved.
Glasshole
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(06-18-2017, 07:00 PM)

Originally Posted by darkinstinct

It's a stupid way. This childish behaviour will just make Valve kill reviews for good, the only working curation of content there is. All Rockstar will think is PC gaming was a mistake. It's not like they need those 8 out of 80 million sales. And I guess the majority of users are pretty damn thankful in the first place for stopping mods, because only a minority uses them and they don't like being griefed upon, which is why Rockstar shut down Open IV in the first place. This is just a vocal stupid minority abusing the review system. Go to Twitter, send nuts to their office, do what normal people do.


It's this anticipatory obedience stance that prevents us from having nice things. "Let us not anger Valve or Rockstar! Let us be civil! Their feelings will be hurt!"

This is a fucking business. They will not retract from PC gaming, and Valve will not kill off their only working curation system, as you yourself called it. Grow up and start thinking strategically instead of shoving your head in the sand. They pulled a HUGE dick move, modding files that you bought (except cheating) is NOT illegal, and changing the rules after you bought the product probably is. They absolutely should feel the backlash.
Kolibri
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(06-18-2017, 07:00 PM)
Aaaaand there goes any chance of ever seeing RDR2 on PC.
Salty Rice
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(06-18-2017, 07:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by sn00zer

This means absolutely nothing since everyone who wants GTA5 has it already so its not like they are going to lose sales.

And yet its still every month in the charts.

Dont get it either. Stop buying GTA 5, Minecraft and last years FIFA already.
BernardoOne
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(06-18-2017, 07:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Kolibri

Aaaaand there goes any chance of ever seeing RDR2 on PC.

Good fucking riddance if so. If this is how they are going to treat the platform, they can stay the fuck away.
The Janitor
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(06-18-2017, 07:03 PM)
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"They're not gonna lose sales"

Well they're sure as hell not gonna gain any sales by shutting down OpenIV. They can only lose.

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