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Wii U Japanese Launch: 308,570 systems sold, Mario leads with 170,563 copies
- Thread starter Coldnoodle
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Sir_Crocodile
Member
But nintendo will support it
I mean it's not like they've been able to rely on third parties for the last 16 years anyway for their home consoles, this is business as usual
KennyLinder
Member
PS2 was a monster!
Canis lupus
Member
Damn at those PS2 numbers! Didn't they not even have supply problems?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Weren't there severe supply problems because of the US launch and an extreme blue/violet laser diode shortage because of poor yields at Nichia.
I don't agree at all, otherwise we would be seeing that kind of eastern support right now. Where is dark Souls? What about Metal Gear? If a developer wants this platform to be viable money bank, then they need to cultivate an audience to sell too.
Diddy Kong
Banned
I was expecting more, but okay numbers nonetheless.
Careful, someone is gonna bring up the online MH.
mugurumakensei
Member
No aside from DD cards that only apply to one game. Speaking of which, where are the game specific DD cards in the west Nintendo?
While there were, the system was also kind of an unmitigated disaster.
The MH3GHD number is okay, considering that it's the 5th implementation of the Monster Hunter 3 (I'm not saying the whole Monster Hunter, but MH3 alone!). Capcom has milked this series quite well, at least in Japan 
MH3 (2009, Wii)
MHP3 (2010, PSP)
MH3HD (2011, PS3)
MH3G (2011, 3DS)
MH3GHD (2012, WiiU)
MH3 (2009, Wii)
MHP3 (2010, PSP)
MH3HD (2011, PS3)
MH3G (2011, 3DS)
MH3GHD (2012, WiiU)
Yup. Nintendoland is worldwide flop relative to Nintendo's expectations. They wanted it to be the next Wii Sports. Not going to happen.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Good point. I was thinking of big publishers like Square though who would surely like to control their budgets as they are not doing very well at the moment. Wii U gives them a way to do that while PS4 would mean they need to push full HD visuals to maintain their "best graphics" reputation.
Oh definitely, the PS3 from launch until mid 2008 was a disaster area.
Japan better not decide to support WiiU as the default console of choice in the new generation or they will be left further in the dust by the western etc. devs when it comes to game development. Either they compete (and focus on PS4/720) or they give up (and stick to the WiiU).
Father_Brain
Banned
Fun fact: Fist of the North Star and DQX are still the only third-party titles announced for JP release in 2013, not counting those published by Nintendo.
I would think that this would change by the end of 2012, but that might make too much sense to happen.
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that any Japanese developer that goes full-on bleeding-edge next-gen in an attempt to compete with Western studios is going to fare quite poorly. A few will certainly try it, as Agni's Philosophy suggests, but I don't expect it to end well at all.
I would think that this would change by the end of 2012, but that might make too much sense to happen.
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that any Japanese developer that goes full-on bleeding-edge next-gen in an attempt to compete with Western studios is going to fare quite poorly. A few will certainly try it, as Agni's Philosophy suggests, but I don't expect it to end well at all.
All that can be taken from the Vita comparisons is that if the price is too high and the games aren't there, then the system won't sell. The Wii U price is arguably on the high side and the confirmed software schedule isn't particularly exciting or full.
Considering those points, and counting in the bias towards handheld gaming in Japan, I wouldn't be so quick to say "it won't 'Vita', it has Nintendo written on it".
Considering those points, and counting in the bias towards handheld gaming in Japan, I wouldn't be so quick to say "it won't 'Vita', it has Nintendo written on it".
LiveFromKyoto
Member
No, never.
The issue I see is NSMB, Monster Hunter, and NintendoLand have to carry momentum for at least the next few months- barring some blowout this week there is nothing for January and Wii Fit doesn't seem scheduled for anytime soon (same with Pikmin obviously).
better not? Japanese people are going to do what they feel like.. There is not better not...
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Considering they've already made Wii, 3DS & PSP their default systems, I'm not sure it matters.
mugurumakensei
Member
And support which console? It took forever for PS3 to have a decent userbase. Japan's output on the HD consoles was sparse to say the least. Japan devs can't really afford the western paths when they typically have to work on games with far lower budgets.
yeah, while there was an issue where supply was constrained from being sent to places that needed it... the problem on Sony's side was that there was no place that needed more supply
Better not if they want to stay competitive on a worldwide scale, is what I meant. If they don't mind getting most of their sales from Japan then they can do as they like.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Those hardware numbers seem good, but Nintendo needs some games for this thing.
walking fiend
Member
MHP3 is not a part of the MH3 family; it's the 4th game.The MH3GHD number is okay, considering that it's the 5th implementation of the Monster Hunter 3 (I'm not saying the whole Monster Hunter, but MH3 alone!). Capcom has milked this series quite well, at least in Japan
MH3 (2009, Wii)
MHP3 (2010, PSP)
MH3HD (2011, PS3)
MH3G (2011, 3DS)
MH3GHD (2012, WiiU)
In Japan, they have it; almost all major franchises [that sell] are on Nintendo consoles now.
AranhaHunter
Banned
They have the DQX port in Q1 2013 and Bayonetta and Pikmin for late 2013 IIRC.
These numbers are excellent for the JP market IMO.
Well then it's the 3rd because the PS3 one is MHP3HD.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Yeah, they always see to get less games than the West for their launches.
whos saying that? In fact, most people in this thread are saying to look to the second week before throwing any parties.
Probably not.
How would Wii U help them in maintaining their "best graphics" reputation? With the same budget they'll be able to make a more beautiful game on PS4 than Wii U.
Wii U Launch Lineup
Monster Hunter 3G HD Ver.
> New Super Mario Bros. U
> Nintendo Land
> Musou Orochi 2 Hyper
> Ninja Gaiden 3: Razors Edge
> Tekken Tag Tournament 2 - Wii U Edition
> ZombiU
> Assassin's Creed III
> Mass Effect 3 - Special Edition
> FIFA 13
> Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition
No but the rest are Western except for NG3. 11 total launch games.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Since when is the Wii the default system for third parties in Japan? PS3 is the the console of choice for third parties.
I've played all of them and I can definitely say they are all in 1 series (and Japanese MonHun fun feel the same way). The only difference between MH3 and MHP3 is your character's home town.
Mario, Monster Hunter, those are great launch titles.
Also I have big hopes for the Joysound Karaoke app, this is a serious mini-killer app for the Wii U in Japan I think. You basically get the same karaoke system as you would get in a Karaoke booth with a joysound system.
I already ordered my microphone!
Also I have big hopes for the Joysound Karaoke app, this is a serious mini-killer app for the Wii U in Japan I think. You basically get the same karaoke system as you would get in a Karaoke booth with a joysound system.
I already ordered my microphone!
Ok... that's all three big launches out of the way and Christmas will be done in a couple of weeks.
After that, Nintendo HAS to tell us what they've got planned for next year and they HAVE to make it good. Otherwise they can't possibly expect to attract more buyers.
A lot of us have invested in Wii U Nintendo, do not screw us over.
We need 2013's games to be named at New Year.
The Miiverse community for that app is already pretty big I think.
After that, Nintendo HAS to tell us what they've got planned for next year and they HAVE to make it good. Otherwise they can't possibly expect to attract more buyers.
A lot of us have invested in Wii U Nintendo, do not screw us over.
We need 2013's games to be named at New Year.
The Miiverse community for that app is already pretty big I think.
The Nintendo Land Iwata Asks emphasizes multiple times that the game is pretty deep with harder difficulties after the first set of levels:
"It gets real after you beat the game"
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wiiu/nintendo-land/0/2
I was wondering why Nintendo was emphasizing that point, but it makes sense for the Japanese audience because it's sold separately. I would assume a general prejudice of the game is that it's a collection of mini-games, when it's actually very content-filled. It also has amazingly good multiplayer.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
indeed. It's not all about hardware sales that determines 3rd party support in japan. It's plain and simply who buys the most types of games. Japanese devs transitioned to PS3 a long time ago over there and most seem to have benefited. Look at Namco, they are ballllin.
"Probably" means it is just a guess or are you sure?
If numbers came from Enterbrain then I'm 100% sure all software numbers include bundles.
walking fiend
Member
No, it's not; MH3 has gameplay in water [and of course other differences].
haha, wasn't paying attention.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
It reminds me of the year when the Wii began to slide. Nintendo expected Kirby Epic Yarn and DKCR to carry the Wii through the holiday season with no Wii Sports/Fit equivalent. As much as they don't want to admit it, casual gamers are content not "moving on" to "bridge" games.
Yeah, but I think Luminous shows they're actually interested in doing that.
I mean, I guess they could just hand the engine to Eidos and call it a day, but it seems kind of pointless since they have Glacier 2 and Unreal Engine 4 on that front.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Best in class, not overall. They could easily have the best graphics on Wii U. However I don't think they could get better graphics on PS4 without increasing their budget, higher quality textures and full HD visuals means more staff and more money.
What this might do is extend the life of the PS3, which again is a problem for Sony.
I think the better comparison is 2008. Wii Music and Animal Crossing.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Sony reported 980,000 PS2 units first week. They were selling them online through themselves as we'll at retail.