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The War Z: shady, misleading and false advertising.
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BertleTheTurtle
Member
Was this posted yet? They stole the LoL EULA.
For crying out loud, it's in the OP for god's sake. Nonetheless, it's disgraceful and clear evidence of lack of professionalism.
Ya, it was. But it deserves re-mentioning.
razgriz417
Member
Holy shit this guy sounds like a soulless used car salesman
"There's no such thing as 'Release' for an online game."
wtf?
darkressurection
Banned
The only responsibility they have is to issue refunds, which like I mentioned in an earlier if they are not doing that than they are fucking up.
BertleTheTurtle
Member
I just saw it posted on the Steam forums, I thought it was new information. My bad.
"I can assure you that based on what we're seeing and number of people who post bad comments are small percentage..."
That is total bullshit. This game is basically in emergency PR mode, when you take into account this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/152wwp/more_war_z_drama_seems_the_steam_forums_are/
"http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925216556714932/[1]
It seems the community manager on the War Z forums is now a moderator on the Steam community hub for War Z. Most posts that criticized the game were removed and people were banned. The new rules say that you cannot mention hackers, that you cannot talk about refunds, not allowed to make a post saying why you stopped playing the game. The rules are general enough and are set up so anything negative about the game can removed and have you banned from the forums.
This type of censorship is just pouring salt in the wound. A day ago, there were warnings telling people why the game was bad and should be avoided."
That is total bullshit. This game is basically in emergency PR mode, when you take into account this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/152wwp/more_war_z_drama_seems_the_steam_forums_are/
"http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925216556714932/[1]
It seems the community manager on the War Z forums is now a moderator on the Steam community hub for War Z. Most posts that criticized the game were removed and people were banned. The new rules say that you cannot mention hackers, that you cannot talk about refunds, not allowed to make a post saying why you stopped playing the game. The rules are general enough and are set up so anything negative about the game can removed and have you banned from the forums.
This type of censorship is just pouring salt in the wound. A day ago, there were warnings telling people why the game was bad and should be avoided."
The game isn't a Beta anymore though (according to Sergy). So, to call it a Beta and release it would be dishonest on the parts of the developers. And they wouldn't want to be dishonest, you know?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I think the problem is that Valve blocked several releases on the service for different reasons, how WarZ managed to get in while being on beta a bit ...strange.
Of course, they saw money and went with it. Also other devs had to go trought greenlight anyway, seeing games like Gray Matter struggling to make it in and see this scam and copycat of a game in the storefront sucks.
I bought into the idea of this game on the "top" tier before release, or whatever they were calling it back then.
Within an hour of playing it the day the "alpha" came out I realized what a huge mistake that was. They refunded my money over paypal because I complained about the servers being down all day, which they were. I kind of forgot about this game until this article and interview popped up.
After reading this though, everyone needs to get the pitchforks out.
Within an hour of playing it the day the "alpha" came out I realized what a huge mistake that was. They refunded my money over paypal because I complained about the servers being down all day, which they were. I kind of forgot about this game until this article and interview popped up.
After reading this though, everyone needs to get the pitchforks out.
darkressurection
Banned
I agree, and hopefully things like this happening will push Valve to take another look what role Greenlight plays and how it operates.
My point is that Valve should at least have a game tested before it being allowed on Steam. You know investigating if certain features are actually in, actually make sure screenshots represent the game and if not actually adding a warning so people don't fooled.
Hell, maybe even adding clarification saying this game has no relation to DayZ despite the name. Simply doing nothing while people get swindled is just totally irresponsible.
"Let's be frank: when you read "up to 100 players" -- what does it mean to you personally? I mean, for me it doesn't mean that I will play with 99 other players."
I don't even have words for the shit coming out of this guy's keyboard. Who can type that seriously? I understand English is not his first language, but... honestly. It's a logical fallacy.
I don't even have words for the shit coming out of this guy's keyboard. Who can type that seriously? I understand English is not his first language, but... honestly. It's a logical fallacy.
That was an EXCELLENT interview by Gamespy. Really rammed that guy's balls with a tennis racket over and over again. Great stuff.
This is more and more turning into a scandal. I'm expecting lots of sites covering it
Respect points for GameSpy. Really good read.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Woo-Fu
Banned
When the movie comes out I hope they get Jim Carrey to play Sergei Titov.
Was this mentioned before ?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925216556727065/
OMG
http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925216556727065/
OMG
Yeah I did not expect such a hard hitting interview, Good work Gamespy.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Keep on paying them money, people. Keep on paying.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
New Terms of Services state that you cannot ask for refund... Oh boy.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I can't imagine Valve doing anything about this since it was their number one seller all day. The only way I see them respondimg is if a bunch of sites start posting it on their front page and it blows up into a big scandal. Then I bet they just offer those who have already bought it refunds.
No fucking way. Tell me you're bullshitting.
No fucking way. Tell me you're bullshitting.
Aquamarine
Member
Here you go:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503862&highlight=code+hero
That must be illegal. You can't just deny people a refund like this when it's standard across lots of games.
My friend summed this up well...
This is despicable. The fact that this is being allowed... Never have I really wanted a media explosion in regards to something in the games industry quite like this.
This, seriously.
WX3
Member
I wish I knew what we could do as a community beyond not buying/playing this trash. After reading the GameSpy interview, I can't believe this, but I'm actually a little steamed right now! This is just mind blowing in it's scope, and Steam as far as I am concerned is a fucking accomplice until this shit is resolved PROPERLY!
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Apparently, if you hit decline to new TOS, you can restart the game and it won't ask you again. Regardless of this glitch that may be fixed soon, you can't ask for refunds anymore.
Also, users getting banned from steam community for saying anything negative.
Kewk works for the devs.
Also, users getting banned from steam community for saying anything negative.
Kewk works for the devs.
Aquamarine
Member
I still can't believe the first thing the developer said when he was asked "Why did you lie on your Steam page?"
...was this: "Only a small number of people are complaining."
What a horrible response to that accusation.
...was this: "Only a small number of people are complaining."
What a horrible response to that accusation.
WX3
Member
Apparently, if you hit decline to new TOS, you can restart the game and it won't ask you again. Regardless of this glitch that may be fixed soon, you can't ask for refunds anymore.
Also, users getting banned from steam community for saying anything negative.
From steamed to totally fucking pissed in less than five minutes.
Oh, I don't know why I thought that was WarZ, that was something else. Never mind then. Thanks.
I'm actually more annoyed by Valve's lack of any apparent action than I am about Sergey "Big Rigs" Titov's attitude about the whole thing. They're the ones giving these people a market right now. There's at least enough shady nonsense afoot to temporarily halt sales and start investigating and issuing refunds to the people who "misread", who deserve their money back no matter what happens to War Z's future on Steam.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Alright. I'm feeling this blowing up into a full blown scandal. Does suck it's right before holiday so it may not get much attention.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Not everyone surfs GAF/Reddit/Gamespy to know what the hell is happening. Some don't even know its different than DayZ, while others just want a fun zombie game to play with friends similar to DayZ, but can't install the mod even if their life depended on it.
Wow... well that wouldn't hold up in Europe. Not sure about America though.
Those people are getting fucked because this is on Steam so they assume it must be okay.
Holy shit, the balls on this dude. :lol
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt and hating them for being a DayZ clone just done "MMO"-ish, but man I was bang-on the money when this was announced after DayZ exploded in popularity: They suck.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Someone needs to screen grab the TOS no refunds things.
I didn't mean that everyone who bought this knew what was going on but it's pretty clear quite a few do and don't care. I've read a lot of comments on the various sites who decided to post about this. Probably a small drop in the overall bucket since this is #1 on steam but it's still aggravating to see people bragging about their stupidity.