blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Nothing. This is at least a 6-layer PCB, most traces are not visible on the surface layer.
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A Nintendo Switch has been taken apart
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Nintendo does hardware upgrades mid gen on their handhelds like new 3ds . But they didnt do any home console mid gen upgrade .
It would mean 64 bit. Or absolutely nothing if there are traces subsurface (very likely)
Xdrive05
Member
I thought the same but wasn't going to stir the pot with it.
That looks like a 3 to me too.
They customized it by taking out the 4 A53 CPU cores and that's about it.
After looking carefully, I agree. The digits seem to match.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Nice to see it's a custom chip and not a standard "Tegra X1".
I didn't find any that ended with a 3 on Samsung's page.
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/dram/mobile-dram/
Reddit comparisons seems to think that this is exactly the same chipset of the new Shield TV, which has a revision of the X1 as well and supposedly is a bit faster than the old shield:
Antutu benchmark for original shield was 117820
The same benchmark for the 2017 Shield was 132483
Could the difference be due to a newer node making for less throttling?
Antutu benchmark for original shield was 117820
The same benchmark for the 2017 Shield was 132483
Could the difference be due to a newer node making for less throttling?
Damn, Nintendo pulling off some major joke and there are still people defending their practices.
The Hermit
Member
mario_O
Member
Isn't that what Nintendo and Nvidia said all along?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It would be ridiculous if somebody ever entertained that thought.
Dark-Cloudz
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BlastProcessing
Member
Damn, Nintendo pulling off some major joke and there are still people defending their practices.
The adapter is higher power than the one you use for your phone (39W). It's more akin to a laptop adapter. Also if you look up other USB-C docks, you will see that $90 isn't really an outlier. USB-C is still new and the chips for adapters aren't mass market priced quite yet.
Dark-Cloudz
Member
Never say never!
Could be general enhancements to the chips design/power delivery/ect. Improvements in cooling system. Different ambient temperature when the test was conducted. Software revisions improving performance. May have been a different phase in the moon. Too many factors there to really say.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
To be fair, that was before Sony and Microsoft normalized half gen updates. Nintendo already did it with the portable consoles, so with how the landscape changed it isn't that unusual for a partial Console/partial portable console would do the same half gen upgrades like the competition.
Not to mention that huge advances in portable technology would make a switch 1.5 a huge jump in 3 years, even just for something like battery life.
Damn, Nintendo pulling off some major joke and there are still people defending their practices.
Power adapters or bricks from 1st party are within that range or even higher. A 29W USB-C power adapter from Apple for example costs about $50 I believe. A 360 power brick costs about $30, and so on. They are expensive, yeah, but are just basically within market prices.
It's two Wii's taped together. Not even an Xbox one.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Fine work. Definitely seems the most probable thus far.
Koizumi and Takahashi already said in an interview that hardware revisions are possible.
http://time.com/4661055/nintendo-switch-interview/
goldenpp72
Member
Damn, Nintendo pulling off some major joke and there are still people defending their practices.
You seem very knowledgeable!
TalentAlwaysWins
Banned
Lmfao
Damn, Nintendo pulling off some major joke and there are still people defending their practices.
I don't want to drag this thread off topic, but for all the complaints about Switch's accessory pricing, I find this one the strangest. As far as I can tell, Switch's AC adaptor is actually the cheapest 15V 2.6A+ USB-C power adaptor on the market. Comparable chargers from Google and Apple are about twice the price (and in the latter case doesn't even come with a charging cable).
Yeah, i think they could sell a "pro dock" that would beef up the system quite a bit while in console mode.
except if there's some technical stuff that would make such a thing literally impossible
That code on two lines seems to fit the letters and figures we can see.
Damn, Nintendo pulling off some major joke and there are still people defending their practices.
You really don't know anything about USB-C USB PD chargers, do you? Maybe next time you could investigate before posting.
Vampirolol
Member
last letter looks an 'H' too.
SEC 531
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I clearly see L IS REAL 2401
Bony Manifesto
Member
Why are they so expensive? Is it just that everyone is taking the piss because the only people who need them right now are Macbook Pro owners (who famously have more money than sense), or is there some special technology in there, or is there just an exorbitant licensing cost? How much is USB-C adding to the cost of the Switch?
A litle of everything. Switch uses a very specific 15v/2.4a charger. And the standard that is currently being implemented in most devices is called USB Power Delivery.
And even so most chargers only include one USB PD port and a bunch of USB ports with their own proprietary standard, for example this one from Anker.
Any USB PD charger of more than 40 Watts must include a 15v/2.4a profile.
LordOfChaos
Member
Here's comparison between Nvidia Shield 2017.
Pretty much confirms its Maxwell not Pascal
Seems 85% likely 20nm/A57/Maxwell, but in the interest of objectivity there's no size scale to go off comparing them in these two pictures (well, the HDMI ports for the Shield, but nothing on the Switch shot there). Someone less lazy than me could calculate the die size from the 3DS cart in the first page.
Here's comparison between Nvidia Shield 2017.
Pretty much confirms its Maxwell not Pascal
Also look at the code on the memory chips. Seems to be the same as on switch except the SEC number is different.
Skittzo0413
Member
Here's comparison between Nvidia Shield 2017.
Pretty much confirms its Maxwell not Pascal
How? I thought there is no density change between 16nm and 20nm, so the dies would look identical.
SinCityAssassin
Member
So if its confirmed ( Image seems pretty certain) then
For 100$ Switch users will get a screen, a splitter dock, HD Rumble, IR Sensor,(Battery)
Cool i guess but i dont know if they didnt bother Rumble and made for 250$ it would be better tbh.
I'm literally 95% sure the 300 dollar price also includes that mark up for the Dock, not necessarily solely the Rumble.
HD rumble FTW thoSo if its confirmed ( Image seems pretty certain) then
For 100$ Switch users will get a screen, a splitter dock, HD Rumble, IR Sensor,(Battery)
Cool i guess but i dont know if they didnt bother Rumble and made for 250$ it would be better tbh.
Edit:Also 12gb more memory
dampflokfreund
Banned
Here's comparison between Nvidia Shield 2017.
Pretty much confirms its Maxwell not Pascal
Well, that settles it. Chip pretty much looks identical. Looks like the customized Nintendo chip has a brother that got a place in the Nvidia Shield TV 2017.
It was a fun ride with you guys!
By the way... do we know for sure that this is a retail device?
Bony Manifesto
Member
So why are Nintendo even using it then, if it's turning something as functionally basic as the dock into this $90 boondoggle? It's nice to see Nintendo going with something modern and non-proprietary, but it seems like it comes at a huge cost!
I did that and the switch die size comes out at just about 121 mm^2
Based on the DS game card size which is 33mm*35mm according to Wikipedia.
Xdrive05
Member
UnemployedVillain
Member
Well, that settles it. Chip pretty much looks identical. Looks like the customized Nintendo chip also got a place in the Nvidia Shield TV 2017.
It was a fun ride with you guys!
By the way... do we know for sure that this is a retail device?
Why do people say things like this? There is a 0% chance the chip in the Shield is the same on as in the Switch