Man, if only there'd been some sort of choice over when the deadline was. If only there was some sort of "article" that we had to "activate". If only somebody could have said, "Oh, France and Germany have elections, and I'm going to hold one as well, maybe we shouldn't start the ticking clock just yet." Oh well!
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Man, if only there'd been some sort of choice over when the deadline was. If only there was some sort of "article" that we had to "activate". If only somebody could have said, "Oh, France and Germany have elections, and I'm going to hold one as well, maybe we shouldn't start the ticking clock just yet." Oh well!
JonathanEx
Member
People have got a longer bloody deadline to reclaim PPI than we have to sort Brexit
Quite a few can get Irish citizenship at the moment. The issue going forward will be people whose parents never claimed Irish citizenship being unable to after their parents die.
Psychotext
Member
Is that how it works? No citizenship after your parents die?
That would never wash under the Good Friday Agreement.
Westbahnhof
Banned
what is it that people think this guy does?
http://www.cityam.com/271519/cut-fearmongering-city-should-welcome-brexit
Oh man, guess there's no reason to worry. Phew.
what is it that people think this guy does?
He's one of Professor Minfords creatures, I see.
I'm certain that he wouldn't be bothered by the complete destruction of British agriculture and industry that this would cause. Others might be. I also don't think people would appreciate having our food standards lowered to nothing, but maybe I'm weird in thinking those are important.
Huzzah, everyone made unemployed by these policies can work as serfs for the City of London and the financial elites.
what is it that people think this guy does?
Wanks off dogs.
So Davis today ruled out EEA and EFTA membership for the transitional deal. That's pretty big, and shows that the Tories are hoping for bespoke arrangements just for the transition, let alone for what they want to transition to. Which is a big ask.
I believe I saw somewhere that the EU's transition position was EEA and a photocopy of the EEA with a different name. Don't think that'd be acceptable to the Tories.
I believe I saw somewhere that the EU's transition position was EEA and a photocopy of the EEA with a different name. Don't think that'd be acceptable to the Tories.
He has no idea what he wants. Only what he doesn't want. He has no idea what we should pay. Only what we shouldn't pay. The closest he's come to setting out his position is pie-in-the-sky, cake-and-eat-it fantasy which has already been shot down from any and all quarters where an ounce of common sense resides.
Wanks off dogs in one hand while checking his Swiss bank account with the other and planning his relocation in case things go tits up.
Westbahnhof
Banned
But wouldn't incompetence just result in a terrible exit?
It's been invoked, how would this turn into a situation where the UK remains?
You're out, right?
I just have a weird feeling it that we will remain or at the very least exit but still have very close ties/ rules etc with the EU with May taking the hit. Talks have been such a fuck up neither would surprise me, neither would a exit were the UK is completely dead.
Dunno. I think were moving fast towards a terrible exit due to the incompetence.
Yes. If the UK doesnt come to a deal to revert art. 50 or leave with a deal theyll just leave in march 2019
Hard to believe were 6 months in and the tories still play for the daily mail crowd instead of negotiating seriously
We're heading straight into the talks imploding.
Herr Schwarz
Banned
United Kingdom took a look at Bulgaria, and thought "I think we can do better!"
No one is going to want to live in a country where the major political animus is targeting others and a bunch of malcontent wankery.
No one is going to want to live in a country where the major political animus is targeting others and a bunch of malcontent wankery.
Unless there's a radical change in this country we're going to crash out and crash out hard. Swathes of the press will accept nothing short of a hard brexit regardless of the damage done to the country and the current government is utterly craven and clueless.
I've more or less held my peace so far but I can see me losing a lot of friends in April and May 2019 as the ramifications of the referendum start hitting home.
Royal_Phalanx
Member
LOL, even Greece is doing better than the UK
Also Theresa May hid 9 reports showing that migration didn't have a large impact on local wages and living standards.
https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/905369891020181508
Also Theresa May hid 9 reports showing that migration didn't have a large impact on local wages and living standards.
https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/905369891020181508
Politicians should not be able to hide reports. That's a problem here in Germany as well, and it's been driving me nuts.
Holy crap at the Czechs catching lightning in a bottle. Impressive.
Strong and steady wins the race. You gotta be a tortoise to beat the hare.
Holy crap at the Czechs catching lightning in a bottle. Impressive.
anonymous_abc
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True dat.
This merry-go-round has nearly two years to run, anything can happen!
UpDownLeftRight
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Completely disagree. The people need to speak and march when this shit all comes to a head and make the government aware we won't allow them to ruin the futures of our children for their damn party.
At no point should we ever just lay back and accept the Tories playing games with everyone's livelihood.
So am I understanding this correctly that the Tories want to push the repeal bill through parliament at all costs today? Limiting speaking time and dragging their feet on an extension of the debating time as if their life depended on it.
Edit: ...on a side note, if your surname is "Cash" and you are naming your son "Bill", you are a dick and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.
Edit: ...on a side note, if your surname is "Cash" and you are naming your son "Bill", you are a dick and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.
It's shit like this that people should be remembering when it comes to May. Never mind the fact that she comes across as a bit socially awkward and boring - that doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things. But this, it shows her true colours and what really matters to her (hint: it's not the British people).
Frankfurter
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It's a "fluke" basically. Looking at a single quarter isn't telling much at all. Take Ireland for example. If you look at their Q1 2017 performance you could think they are doomed (-2.6%, i.e. ~-10% annualized), while if you look at their Q4 2016 performance you'd think they are the fastest growing economy in the world (+5.8%, i.e. 20%+ annualized).
But they already spoke...twice in fact. Referendum vote and general election. Outcome? We are leaving the EU and (granted a much less powerful) tory party are still in charge. Look, i didn't vote for brexit but this is notion is quite unrealistic. Plus, given how brexit is in the great interest of rich fucks (Murdoch and friends) who egged Farage and Boris on with their lies, nothing will change the outcome unless a major significant factor takes place...like a nationwide protest that practically shuts down the country. Wishful thinking if you ask me. Much like a disgusting shot of sambuca at 3am when you're on the brink of throwing up, people just gonna have to swallow reality and get on with it.
If your parents didn't claim it then maybe not. The information around the net isn't clear, maybe the regs are more lax and if they were entitled to it, but never claimed it then you could.
UpDownLeftRight
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When people realize what their reality entails I'd wager the backlash will increase. The EU will bend the UK over backwards because they can and the UK will have no choice. Once the public actually wakes up to that reality I expect a big shift in opinion.
I'd also wager that's why the Tories are more interested in putting on a show for their base than actually trying to make any headway. They know the base will turn when their lies come crashing down around them.
I'll also never accept complacency as we ruin the futures of those with no control or choice over it. I'll always be of the mindset that just accepting that the government can do whatever the hell it likes at the cost of the people is an awful, defeatist attitude that will only empower them to do even worse shit as they feel free.
Crumbling and failing does not stop the exit procedure. You'll be exiting no matter how badly the govt fumbles the negotiations.
In related news, Farage is going to speak at an AfD rally in Germany, having been invited by Beatrix von Storch, the granddaughter of Hitlers finance minister.
Via the Grauniad
I would make a joke, but I think this speaks for itself
Via the Grauniad
I would make a joke, but I think this speaks for itself
Psychotext
Member
Ahh, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about Brits with a (deceased) Irish parent.
Orniletter
Banned
Oh, von "the police should use armed force to keep mothers and their children ( refering to refugees) from crosssing our borders" Storch.
I mean, she's not responsible for her ancestor....but she just so happens to be absolute garbage as well.
Edit: Fantastic thread, theaface ! Can't wait for May's version of the walk of atonement.
He does know what he wants, what he gets is up for negotiation. What he doesn't know is what he can get, because good negotiators will not reveal that. This works for both sides.
Anyone who doesn't think that the recent "leaks," on post EU migration policy proposals weren't deliberate probably should think again.
A little more digging.I was talking specifically about the Northern Irish situation and Good Friday agreement above. This rule is a more general rule:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/ said:
Basically everyone is an Irish Citizen. Its a novel approach to immigration.