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Trump threatens to totally destroy North Korea.
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boredofcanada
Member
Hope you are right.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
they're not going to attack us though...
Gnome Scat
Member
This idiot is going to get us all killed, isn't he?
So what you're saying is that NK has been doing all of this just for fun?
Exactly. The problem is HOW the president said what he said. In matters like this, it's important to keep a certain amount of decorum in how you speak. This is international policy that affects millions or even billions of lives. So outright saying "destroy" like that is really fucking dangerous.
HOW you say things is important. The Republicans have worked to break down the level of discourse in the US, and it seems like the idea of decorum is a casualty of this. This administration completely threw decorum out the window day one.
Speaking like this just makes the US look worse and weakens its position in the world.
I do question the sanity of what NK is doing, and if I'm honest I don't understand how they can act this recklessly on the world stage without being penalized [it would appear that sanctions mean fuck all to them].
madstarr12
Member
Lol at those Trump voters who said that Hillary will get us into war if elected. "Totally destroy", who says that?
NK used to rattle their sword only when they needed supplies and money. With our admin having an unhinged person in charge, they've acted up more because our guy is insane and doesn't know the game being played.
NK is not gonna attack the US, and Trump is not helping the current situation with his genocide talk.
Speaking of genocide, I have a question for all the people advocating war: How is "destroying North Korea" supposed to help all the oppressed North Korean civilians to achieve freedom? You can't be free if you're buried under radioactive rubble.
Especially since this phrasing is kind of different from the actual policy. I'm not sure our stance has ever been to "totally destroy" North Korea should they attack. It's probably to totally destroy the regime. Totally destroy the government, maybe. There's a big problem in a leader just saying they would totally destroy a country, though, especially when you look at our previous history interfering in other countries. Totally destroying a country has a lot of implications.
Setzer
Member
But.....it's NeoGAF.
No. What foreign policy experts have been saying for the past decade is that NK has been doing all of this to get concession at the negotiating table.
I wonder how Ben Garrison is faring after his God-Emperor transformed from an isolationist into a chickenhawk.
Sidewinder
Member
Un loves when Trump talks like this, validates his nuclear program in the eyes of the NK people and makes his reign even stronger.
You and Oriel are evidently not part of Gaf
No but it does leave a pretty fucking important part of the quote out.
Alter_Fridge
Member
I'll like totally destroy you bro!
It gives you the possibility to ignore what he is threatening with, so really shouldn't complain.
CyclopsRock
Member
That's basically the point of nuclear weapons though, isn't it? It's to make the prospect of war so utterly terrible that it never happens.
llien
Member
Yeah, this is quite an important if, indeed: "If the United States is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea"
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
The DPRK bases everything it does on the perception that the US wants to destroy their country. Their military posturing is all about appearing strong to their people, who are all brainwashed from birth to believe that the US hates them and intends on destroying them. It's their primary belief alongside adoration for dear leader.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ge-emerges-us-president-nuclear-a7884666.html
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/l...re-emptive-north-korea-attack/article/2631153
Why all of you are forgetting that a "threat" includes continuing their weapons program to get cuties off about click bait and fake news is beyond me. Preemptive strikes are definitely in the air.
We blew up a country because we, thought, they had wmds folks. This time we have a literal moron in office.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/l...re-emptive-north-korea-attack/article/2631153
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/9/lindsey-graham-donald-trumps-heated-warnings-have-/
Why all of you are forgetting that a "threat" includes continuing their weapons program to get cuties off about click bait and fake news is beyond me. Preemptive strikes are definitely in the air.
We blew up a country because we, thought, they had wmds folks. This time we have a literal moron in office.
Luschient
Member
I guarantee if NK launched as much as a firecracker at SK, Japan, Guam, etc. then the US military would open up on them.
NK doesn't have to do some spectacular attack to set this thing off.
False equivalence because of many different reasons.
llien
Member
Note how this is only part of it.
There is another one: North Korean government is the only "real" government of Korea, South is occupied by US and ruled by ia government controlled by US,, NK has souveren right to "free" entire peninsula.
That is as likely to happen as what Trump said in his 'if they do things" statement.
NK will build even stronger missiles and likely real hydrogen bombs too.
Trump will throw threats left and right.
Russia would go "US problem" with its population of course being more on NK side, than US/SK.
China, possibly the only stakeholder that cares and could change things, would do nothing.
Chances of actual war effectively zero.
Oh, wow.
I think it's because nobody thinks he really means it.
Sounds like the only "or else" argument at negotiation table.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Atleast life would be more interesting !
Widdle Puppy
Banned
the only thing orange man is totally destroying is a big n tasty and a litre of diet coke
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Have you been waiting all day to contribute that useless reply?
boredofcanada
Member
China isn't gonna let us do anything to NK. They like that sweet buffer border, and they hate them pesky refugees.
Because Graham's opinion isn't worth shit.
Widdle Puppy
Banned
you seem bothered
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
By your apparent lack of intelligence to contribute to this conversation in a meaningful way? No, not really....just pointing it out, but carry on.
Widdle Puppy
Banned
go on... trump supporters tend to not last long on here. tell me how you really feel when I shit on your orange idol?
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Been a member since 2008, but whatever makes you happy. My responses to your comments haven't even mentioned trump, just that you've contributed nothing meaningful to the conversation that's taking place.
Any other insights?
Widdle Puppy
Banned
that your alt must still be in the queue for activation because clearly you've been triggered and aren't willing to let this account go yet
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
I have no other accounts, nor do i need any other. Feel free to continue shitting up this post with quirky (quirky in your head only of course) trump comments that aren't actual talking points to what we're discussing though as it clearly gives you an e-boner.
Done with you..
NullPointer
Member
This.
Still looking for the text that couches this only as a response to a direct attack from NK.
When Mattis speaks of "running out of time" with Korea, its not the time until NK attacks us. Its a believed window of opportunity before NK has nuclear capable ICBMs.