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Bloodborne |OT+5| Grant Us Eyes!
- Thread starter Robot Pants
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co-op with short root chalice.
Can I get that before beating Blood Starved Beast?
Matt Frost
Member
Damn, not what I want to read right now... after a hunter's nightmare (pun intended xD) I finally reached Ludwig... he seems soft I thought... until his second form... the Moon Sword thing, that thing has 120,000 souls of mine, had to go to work... is soooo hard, kills you in one strike. Damn, if Lawrence is way harder than Ludwig I am in A LOT of trouble.
Great to hear this, some good news, appreciated. Damn Ludwig...
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Ring your small resonant bell in Old Yharnam, preferably in front of the boss.
No.
I don't have any insight to ring it lol
2nd form should be easier than first. It's more telegraphed and less chaotic.
Most important is 1) hug the fuck out of him, being close to him will make her beams totally miss you.
2) always try to stand in his back. It's a matter of rolling through his sword swings while always heading behind him to hit him.
When he puts his sword up in the air, he's gonna do that charged attack, again, run behind him. And when he puts his sword on the flor, he's gonna do an AoE attack, so run far from him. But after that get close to him again.
He can be staggered after enough damage, and riposted for big damage (you'll have to to his head while being staggered)
2) always try to stand in his back. It's a matter of rolling through his sword swings while always heading behind him to hit him.
When he puts his sword up in the air, he's gonna do that charged attack, again, run behind him. And when he puts his sword on the flor, he's gonna do an AoE attack, so run far from him. But after that get close to him again.
He can be staggered after enough damage, and riposted for big damage (you'll have to to his head while being staggered)
Btw, he shouldn't kill you in only one hit, how many VIT you have?
ShogunDarius
Member
got any mad mans knowledge on you?
Matt Frost
Member
Thanks a lot for the tips Ferr, much much appreciated, will try later at home. I will follow your advice.
I have VIT 31, is that way too low?
ShogunDarius
Member
Got to OoK, that guy has some range :/
I would aim for atleast 40ish IMO. The 2nd softcap is at 50 although you can go with less. But 30 probably won't cut if you're interested in doing Depth 5 Chalices. Obviously HP is very dependant and some people go with more and some with less.
You could also try to stack HP runes (Clockwise metamorphosis runes) for an HP boost if you haven't.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
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You don't need insight to ring it. You need insight to ring the Beckoning Bell, which is to call for help. To offer help to others, ring the Small Resonant Bell, it doesn't cost anything. You can then help players and if you help them defeat the boss you get insight.
...If you mean you don't have enough insight to buy it from the messengers, then... um yeah, you need to either discover a new area/boss or consume a Madman's Knowledge.
Matt Frost
Member
I lost SO MANY souls already, SO MANY, I am a bad player who need a lot of potions, but Bloodborne is SO AMAZINGLY GOOD that I endure and persist a lot of pain... well, my stats:
Vit 31
End 31
STR 40
Skill 12
Blood 8
Arcane 7
I guess I am underleveled for the DLC
ShogunDarius
Member
OoK is fucking ridiculous
I have absolutely no insight. Where can I farm Madman's Knowledge?
You're not that bad if you reached endgame
Your stats seems fine for a STR focused build. You reached STR softcap of 40, so no point on putting more levels there.
End at 31 seems fine to me (hell I even roll with less) but that's on to you, if you feel like you need more stamina or not.
So it's either level VIT or SKL if you're using a Quality weapon (weapon that scales with bot STR and SKL decently).
Btw, you said you lost 100.000 souls to Ludwig. Aren't you teleporting back to spend your souls when you reach a lamp? You should aways go back to the Hunter's dream everytime you reach a lamp to use your souls IMO. No reason to run around unknow areas with a big load of souls.
Yeah, worst part is that there's really no good stra other than get really good at dodging. Dude's the hardest boss in all Soulborne games.
Those slug like monster from Upper Cathedral can drop them. Also, ring your bell for co-op (the one to get summoned, not the one for summon). Every time you beat a boss in coop you get insight.
EDIT: I see you didn't understand Morrigan. She said to ring the bell to get you summoned to other worlds, so you help other players and get insight after defeating a boss. You don't need insight for that.
It's your only choice, because the farm spot for Madman Knowledge is an endgame area.
SpaceBridge
Member
So the past three days have been productive. I beat the first boss
and
. Both were tough AF, but my god the feeling of accomplishment. I'm so hooked on this game. More so than Demon Souls or Dark Souls 1. I can't say I've mastered combat or dodging but I'm trying. But geez this game wants me to be agressive and throw myself at enemies whether I can beat them or not. It's brutal and sado masochistic but I'm constantly thinking about this game.
Cleric Beast
father gascoigne
Nvm that, it's an area you can't reach yet.
To get Insight, your only way is to ring the bell to get you summoned into other worlds, and help the host beat a boss. You don't need insight to ring that bell.
Yeah but I need insight to buy the bell, I have none.
ShogunDarius
Member
lost to fucking kos again, cant seem to parry him at all, and trying to do that move when the opponents on his knees is too short a window
Check the wiki page and look for any Madman Knowledge item yhat you may have missed in the areas you already cleared
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Madman's+Knowledge
I honeslt gave up on trying to parry him and fought him regular style. Especially 2nd phase is hard to get a parry.
ShogunDarius
Member
i'm starting to think the blunderbuss is shit at parrying
ShogunDarius
Member
tool 15 health potions to get kos down to his second form
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Need some help?I keep getting fucked by the Blood Starved Beast. I let Alfred down
Yeah he is one of the hardest bosses IMO including the Souls series as well. Keep trying! Take a break if you have to. Taking a break and coming back often help me on hard bosses. I almost always kill a hard boss on my first 2-3 attempts after a break. Try not to get to frustrated
The pistol is better because it's faster IMO. Blunderbuss have better range.
Need some help?
Yeah he is one of the hardest bosses IMO including the Souls series as well. Keep trying! Take a break if you have to. Taking a break and coming back often help me on hard bosses. I almost always kill a hard boss on my first 2-3 attempts after a break. Try not to get to frustrated
Thanks but I don't have any insight to summon you lol
OrbitalBeard
Member
Any particular reason you need Insight right now?
If not, just keep playing. You'll be swimming in the stuff eventually.
ShogunDarius
Member
I have every ranged weapon at my disposal, whats the best for high parry chance? and does fortifying a ranged weapon effect parry chances?
Trying to summon Alfred for Blood Starved Beast.
Fortifying doesn't affect anything, only your timing.
The pistol and blunderbuss are your best bets. The pistol is just a bit faster while the higher spread of the blunderbuss gives you better accuracy when hitting smaller/faster enemies and is more reliable at knocking foes out of their attack animation if your timing isn't perfect.
BSB advice: If you have some on you, the blood cocktails will distract the boss and let you get some hits in. Useful for the last phase where it goes berserk. Example: http://youtube.com/watch?v=C5gF1FAlvjA
Take a break. That does wonders. I also would suggest to just cut off your vial usage until you figure the boss out so you won't dry out so fast.
General tips for the boss are just to be patient and look for the moments you can punish big time. First phase has bunch of moments where you can get charged R2 > VA for really high damage. You can't really do that in second phase unless you are really on point with your R2 charges so just hit few times and dodge.
Are you sure about those? Aren't all firearms equally fast and Pistol style has more range compared to blunderbuss?
OrbitalBeard
Member
Gotcha'.
Have you purchased the Hunter Chief Emblem from the Hunter's Dream? It's 10,000 blood echoes, but if you'd like to do some exploring and come back to the BSB later, that's an option.
I just need tips to defeat him. I can get to his second form and then he starts doing that oneshot grab bs
Throw a Pungent Blood Cocktail at the wall and he will go crazy attacking that. Meanwhile, buff your weapon of choice with fire and just hack away at him whilst he's going crazy on the wall. Just repeat the process throughout the fight and you get an easy win.
ShogunDarius
Member
Does Kos have a weakness to fire or lightning? or any weakness?
None at all. They add a base damage over your regular attacks but not a weakness as such.
Matt Frost
Member
You're not that bad if you reached endgame
Your stats seems fine for a STR focused build. You reached STR softcap of 40, so no point on putting more levels there.
End at 31 seems fine to me (hell I even roll with less) but that's on to you, if you feel like you need more stamina or not.
So it's either level VIT or SKL if you're using a Quality weapon (weapon that scales with both STR and SKL decently).
Btw, you said you lost 100.000 souls to Ludwig. Aren't you teleporting back to spend your souls when you reach a lamp? You should always go back to the Hunter's dream every time you reach a lamp to use your souls IMO. No reason to run around unknown areas with a big load of souls.
Thanks for the kind words
I did my best, was really hard, but managed somehow. Persistency is the key word here. Well, I use Ludwig's Holy Sword (+9) and Saw Cleaver (+10), hope they fit into the Quality category. I can do a second run without at the core game to get even better, the game is so much fun I can do it without hesitation. That way I will be more prepared for DLC, NG+...As for the souls, I just run into boss fights without knowing they are there. Like all of a sudden a beast appears and I am like: Damn, I should have gone and leveled up. First run newbie that steps on the same rock over and over. Second time I hope it will be different. Happened with all the bosses except a few (rooftop of Cainhurst, Orphanage and Amygdala). Next time I have so many souls I will go to the Hunter's Dream. I will try to remember. But I didn't lose them, yet. I know they are there, I just have to get out of work and beat him.
I also had some help from friends, more like a guide because they tend to die, they are used to their health and when they are with me they get nerfed and I have to kill them. Also, Bloodborne changes a lot when playing with other people.
ShogunDarius
Member
Guess I need to farm because I used all those up on my previous attempts
If you need help, I'm willing to offer. Just let me know.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Yeah, this is good advice if you want to beat him right now. I suggested buying the Hunter Chief Emblem because it sometimes helps to get some space between you and a tough boss. Once you come back, you might be surprised at how much better you are.
Robot Pants
Member
I honestly think hes the hardest boss in all the souls games. He's just the worst
OrbitalBeard
Member
2nd phase is ridiculous
ShogunDarius
Member
i'm starting to get KOS to his second form but that form is so bloody erratic, he is op
Codex Gigas
Banned
His incessant Wilhelm screams really demoralize.