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zoukka
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(11-11-2016, 09:10 PM)
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It is a super weird design when it's just a better version of infested wolf. Blizzard not being very imaginative here.

This card could've easily been a legendary.
miladesn
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(11-11-2016, 09:11 PM)
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They nerfed call of the wild they have to give some decent cards to hunter. Neither this or the kodo are exactly oppressive like call was, it's fair game. Hunter is a class that if they run out of cards and the opponent isn't dead or close to they just lose. Their cards need to be high value.

Infested wolf wasn't very good really, playing a 3/3 on turn 4 isn't exactly good and with this one you curve into houndmaster, hunter is all about the curve.
Peléo
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(11-11-2016, 09:11 PM)
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Card is really good, even if Grimy Gums didnt exist it already has really good synergys with existing cards to work on its own (Houndmaster, Abusive, Leok, Deathrattle, Beast).
Nirolak
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(11-11-2016, 09:11 PM)
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Presumably the Hunter Legendary will be an incredibly powerful 7 drop to help fill out the curve to Call of the Wild.
fertygo
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(11-11-2016, 09:12 PM)
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Yeahhhhhhh

card looks insanely good and might've too damn good, shit is haunted creeper level tbh

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ZealousD
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(11-11-2016, 09:12 PM)
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More sticky minions that drop little token shits.

whyyyyyyy

I like his hat.
zoukka
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(11-11-2016, 09:12 PM)
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Ohh I see. Because Kodo is a 4-drop, they needed to buff infested wolf but they just made it as a new card.

Originally Posted by Nirolak

Presumably the Hunter Legendary will be an incredibly powerful 7 drop to help fill out the curve to Call of the Wild.

Hunter legendaries are the worst.
miladesn
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(11-11-2016, 09:15 PM)
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I can see silence coming back, at least earthshock.
Dahbomb
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(11-11-2016, 09:15 PM)
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So Hunter has a Deathrattle + Beast minion all the way from turn 1 to turn 6 except turn 5.

You can play Huhuran in that slot to be honest.
Papercuts
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(11-11-2016, 09:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by gutshot

Good card but yet another one that gets absolutely blown out by Potion of Madness (provided it didn't get any in-hand buff, of course).

Priest is going to be my worst nightmare as a Hunter.

I do think this is actually really relevant too. That priest card is straight up broken, but when you actually think about Shadow Madness, what are the good targets? Anything sticky.

The game used to be full of it with eggs, haunted creepers, imp gang boss, etc. and there were plenty of upside deathrattles like sludge belcher, mad scientist, or just generally annoying cards like juggler.

That stuff got pretty out of control but has been way less prevalant post-standard, and now seems to be trickling in mainly for hunter. The priest card mainly seemed really good against kindly grandmother but will just get even better with more stuff like bad rat. Worth noting it can't hit this after a minion buff to hand atleast, unless comboed with the attack decreaser.
miladesn
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(11-11-2016, 09:17 PM)
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I like tiger better, it's guaranteed to connect and at that point in the game you need that damage. Your opponent can't interact with tiger and highmane both on same turn, it's unlikely.
zoukka
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(11-11-2016, 09:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dahbomb

You can play Huhuran in that slot to be honest.

Let's not go crazy.
Dahbomb
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(11-11-2016, 09:19 PM)
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Who knows the other Hunter card might be a 5 drop Deathrattle Beast.

Where are the god damn spells? All these minions or minion buff cards have me bummed out.


Originally Posted by zoukka

Let's not go crazy.

It's not that terrible of an idea.

6/5 for 5 mana and is a Beast. Your entire deck and curve is filled with Deathrattles, if something sticks you get value and even if it doesn't you are fine. It's also just one card slot, you aren't putting in two Huhurans.
wiibomb
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(11-11-2016, 09:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by gutshot

Good card but yet another one that gets absolutely blown out by Potion of Madness (provided it didn't get any in-hand buff, of course).

Priest is going to be my worst nightmare as a Hunter.

Oh shit.. this is true... priest will even get the deathrattle effect for itself...

priest will dominate the next meta, I can already see that..
fertygo
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(11-11-2016, 09:21 PM)
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Is Cipher that playing on ATLC stream is the same Cipherr that posting here?
fertygo
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(11-11-2016, 09:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dahbomb

Who knows the other Hunter card might be a 5 drop Deathrattle Beast.

Where are the god damn spells? All these minions or minion buff cards have me bummed out.

Let be real Goons not using spell
ZealousD
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(11-11-2016, 09:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by fertygo

Let be real Goons not using spell

I Know a Guy is a spell. =P
Levi
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(11-11-2016, 09:27 PM)
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This new rat curves perfectly into the houndmaster turn. What a nightmare to deal with.
Dahbomb
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(11-11-2016, 09:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by fertygo

Let be real Goons not using spell

But that 1 mana that gives +1/+1 to minions in hand!

Yeah like I said... it's all just minion based spells anyway.
luoapp
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(11-11-2016, 09:36 PM)
We potentially have another "imp-losion" here, just too many ways to buff attack. It maybe more balanced if spawns are equal to its health.
Mobius and pet octopus
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(11-11-2016, 09:42 PM)
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I think it's being a bit overrated. I want to see what other stuff hunters gets before deciding. It's pretty good with a single buff on it, but I think landing that buff is more important than people give it credit. I also think people overrated that 4 drop 3/3 wolf.

Without buff, it's only a 2/4 which is a weak statline for a 3 drop and it's not even quite that. And priest can potion of madness it.
gutshot
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(11-11-2016, 09:51 PM)
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Yeah, I'm with Mobius on this one. I think it is a good card, but not OP. It's Infested Wolf with some upside. But Infested Wolf isn't even that great. The tokens are rarely relevant in Hunter and in a meta dominated by Maelstrom Portals and Ravaging Ghouls, they generally get cleared pretty easily.

The one big thing this has over Infested Wolf is that it curves into Houndmaster perfectly. That is nice. I can definitely see this replacing Wolf in Midrange Hunter lists but it's not going to make Midrange Hunter a new tier 1 deck or anything.
Dahbomb
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(11-11-2016, 09:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mobius and pet octopus

I think it's being a bit overrated. I want to see what other stuff hunters gets before deciding. It's pretty good with a single buff on it, but I think landing that buff is more important than people give it credit. I also think people overrated that 4 drop 3/3 wolf.

Without buff, it's only a 2/4 which is a weak statline for a 3 drop and it's not even quite that. And priest can potion of madness it.

What is there to overrate about Spider Wolf? It got used as a staple in the peak of Midrange Hunter and still does in Midrange variant of Hunter decks. That's exactly how most people rated it, that it's good enough to get used in Hunter deck.

This card is similar only better. So we can probably expect that this gets played in at least the Midrange variant of Hunter decks.
ZealousD
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(11-11-2016, 10:02 PM)
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On its own without any synergy it basically has 1 attack and 2 beast tags over haunted creeper. Not really OP. Seems closer in power level to something decent like Harvest Golem rather than something crazy like Imp Gang Boss.

But it will always make sure that Houndmaster is lit and it's way better than Carrior Grub in that way. I think whether this card sees play will depend a lot on whether a Grimy Goons beast Hunter can really compete with Trap Hunter.
bjaelke
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(11-11-2016, 10:04 PM)
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I want to see what other stuff hunters gets before deciding

Sounds like you just did
Dahbomb
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(11-11-2016, 10:05 PM)
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Yeah people forgot that Carion Grab was a card that people ACTUALLY played in COMPETITIVE Hunter decks as a 3 drop that was a solid target for Houndmaster.

This is far superior to Carion Grab IMO. It is firmly within the playable status. We can debate over OP or not sure. I personally think it's just short of Kindly Grandmother tier, better than Spider Wolf tier. My frustration with this card is simply "oh great... ANOTHER sticky non sense Hunter minion for us to deal with that plays on curve in other curve minions that are similar to it..."
fertygo
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(11-11-2016, 10:10 PM)
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I think if you forced to use AOE if that thing spawn 4 spider, you already feel really bad and cost you game most of time
slightconfuse
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(11-11-2016, 10:10 PM)
There is a deal on Amazon coins if you go to Amaz's twitch page.

There is a link to get 5000 coins for 25$
Mobius and pet octopus
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(11-11-2016, 10:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dahbomb

What is there to overrate about Spider Wolf? It got used as a staple in the peak of Midrange Hunter and still does in Midrange variant of Hunter decks. That's exactly how most people rated it, that it's good enough to get used in Hunter deck.

This card is similar only better. So we can probably expect that this gets played in at least the Midrange variant of Hunter decks.

People rated it higher than simply being good enough to run.

Originally Posted by bjaelke

Sounds like you just did

I only said that without being buffed it's just mediocre.

Originally Posted by Dahbomb

Yeah people forgot that Carion Grab was a card that people ACTUALLY played in COMPETITIVE Hunter decks as a 3 drop that was a solid target for Houndmaster.

This is far superior to Carion Grab IMO. It is firmly within the playable status. We can debate over OP or not sure. I personally think it's just short of Kindly Grandmother tier, better than Spider Wolf tier. My frustration with this card is simply "oh great... ANOTHER sticky non sense Hunter minion for us to deal with that plays on curve in other curve minions that are similar to it..."

Carrion is 2/5 though. I remember it saw a limited amount of play and then was removed.
ZealousD
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(11-11-2016, 10:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by slightconfuse

There is a deal on Amazon coins if you go to Amaz's twitch page.

There is a link to get 5000 coins for 25$

Only works for people who are new to the Amazon Appstore.
wiibomb
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(11-11-2016, 10:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by slightconfuse

There is a deal on Amazon coins if you go to Amaz's twitch page.

There is a link to get 5000 coins for 25$

I wish I could redeem it, but it only works for new accounts made before Nov. 7th and also must not have made any kind of purchase of amazon apps, not even free content (I got screwed for that last part)
Papercuts
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(11-11-2016, 10:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by wiibomb

I wish I could redeem it, but it only works for new accounts made before Nov. 7th and also must not have made any kind of purchase of amazon apps, not even free content (I got screwed for that last part)

Wow. Fuck.

I thought I would apply for it but the free thing is going to screw me over too, lol.
slightconfuse
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(11-11-2016, 10:53 PM)
Jackie chan is my new favorite player. Guy just plays fun decks
bunbun777
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(11-11-2016, 10:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Soka

I mean, I get the thread title origin, but man, do I have to be reminded about D. Trump every time I click this thread?

Yea it's going to widdle my soul down to a tiny nub. Emergency title change request plz~
bjaelke
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(11-11-2016, 11:00 PM)
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Speaking of rigged elections, the card reveal vote on Gadgetzan.com has been underperforming all week.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(11-11-2016, 11:04 PM)
5000 coins are how much in HS money? and does it work cross region? I have a prior NA account from buying xbox gift cards.
miladesn
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(11-11-2016, 11:05 PM)
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they will have to show it today anyway, lol.
ZealousD
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(11-11-2016, 11:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Familienoberhauptvogel

5000 coins are how much in HS money? and does it work cross region? I have a prior NA account from buying xbox gift cards.

5000 coins is worth $50 USD in-game. That's 40 packs. So it's basically 50% off 40 packs.

Buying Amazon coins usually gives you a discount anyway. Normally buying 5000 coins is $42 USD.

I have no idea if any of this is cross-region.
wiibomb
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(11-11-2016, 11:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZealousD

5000 coins is worth $50 USD in-game. That's 40 packs. So it's basically 50% off 40 packs.

Buying Amazon coins usually gives you a discount anyway. Normally buying 5000 coins is $42 USD.

I have no idea if any of this is cross-region.

it is "kinda" cross region. you make an account on .com website or any other (you can also transfer the account to another country to buy there) and then you log in your account in HS on android to use them, the amazon account is independent from the blizzard account. That is how I used an account from Germany to buy on my American HS account
BananasWithGuns
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(11-11-2016, 11:45 PM)
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Rat Pack is ridiculous with Houndmaster. That alone seems like enough to make it playable. Also really good with Leokk, not to mention the other buff cards if Hunter plays them.
rickyson1
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(11-11-2016, 11:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Dahbomb

Who knows the other Hunter card might be a 5 drop Deathrattle Beast.

Where are the god damn spells? All these minions or minion buff cards have me bummed out.



It's not that terrible of an idea.

6/5 for 5 mana and is a Beast. Your entire deck and curve is filled with Deathrattles, if something sticks you get value and even if it doesn't you are fine. It's also just one card slot, you aren't putting in two Huhurans.

judging by Druid and Priest I feel like this expansion will probably have more spells than usual overall

just not in the Goon classes
BlackBuzzard
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(11-12-2016, 12:42 AM)
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Im the new world champion.
Raxus
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(11-12-2016, 12:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by BlackBuzzard

Im the new world champion.

LOL.

Pavel has to be one of the least deserving champs in years.

Why, out of all the Naxx and GvG cards, do they keep bring back haunted creeper for hunter.
EuropeOG
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(11-12-2016, 01:01 AM)
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Turn 4 DID will be pretty good.

Edit: still no new card draw for Hunter though. Feelsbadman.
Yaboosh
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(11-12-2016, 01:09 AM)
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Card draw would break hunter.
Mobius and pet octopus
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(11-12-2016, 01:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Yaboosh

Card draw would break hunter.

Yeah, we've seen hunter with card draw. 2 mana starving buzzard anyone?
BlackBuzzard
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(11-12-2016, 01:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mobius and pet octopus

Yeah, we've seen hunter with card draw. 2 mana starving buzzard anyone?

Wasn't Buzzard 3mana? Was completely broken it was just Buzzard plus Unleash combo GG usually.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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(11-12-2016, 01:17 AM)

Originally Posted by BlackBuzzard

Wasn't Buzzard 3mana? Was completely broken it was just Buzzard plus Unleash combo GG usually.

The combo cost 5 altogether so one of them was 3 the other 2.
Mobius and pet octopus
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(11-12-2016, 01:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by BlackBuzzard

Wasn't Buzzard 3mana? Was completely broken it was just Buzzard plus Unleash combo GG usually.

It was 2 mana and while UTH was great when your opponent didn't play around it, it was really just as good without it especially after they added more and more strong cheap beasts like webspinner and haunted creeper. And then highmane synergy as well.

I think it showed Blizzard that hunter should not be capable of cheaply drawing many cards of a draw engine, which is why they nerfed it so severely.
bluehat9
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(11-12-2016, 01:30 AM)
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I always like carrying one flare in my hunter deck so priests can thoughtsteal it right after I play my 0 cost secrets, lol.

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