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The Emperor · Jul 23, 2017

If TLJ cant hit a billion worldwide I will have a meltdown to end all meltdowns. I mean i'm worried about it dropping but more like to 1.5 billion lmao!! TFA did $2 billion after all.

Domestic wise I think the first $billion dollar film will either be Episode X (yes ep 10), Lion King, Jurassic Universe or Avatar 2 (never underestimate cameron)

3N16MA · Jul 23, 2017

kswiston said:
I don't think Aladdin is even as popular as BatB in recent years. Maybe during the mid 90s.

It seems to be in the same category as The Little Mermaid.

Ivan 3414 · Jul 23, 2017

DarkJediKnight said:
I'm not. Rough Night looked like it was marketed to white women too soon after movies like Bridesmaids, Ghostbusters, etc....

???

Bridesmaids was very much a critical and commercial success...and that movie came out like five years ago, how is that too soon?

lightskintwin · Jul 23, 2017

kunonabi said:
yep, as annoying as Queen Latifah can be I'd still rather see a movie with her than one about a bunch of coke snorting assholes.

Queen Latifah annoying? What is this nonsense.

DarkLordMalik · Jul 23, 2017

kswiston said:
I don't think Aladdin is even as popular as BatB in recent years. Maybe during the mid 90s.

Aladdin had an extremely popular TV show unlike Beauty and the Beast. I am sure it is more popular worldwide compared to Beast but not sure on its domestic success.

Sgt.Pepper · Jul 23, 2017

What's with the narrative that Spider-Man is doing badly?

suaveric · Jul 23, 2017

I can see how Dunkirk could have been made for 100m. It doesn't really have that many sets. A few ship interiors, a couple boats and everything else is the beach or the air, which no one had to build. I don't think it had a lot of CG either.

lightskintwin · Jul 23, 2017

suaveric said:
I can see how Dunkirk could have been made for 100m. It doesn't really have that many sets. A few ship interiors, a couple boats and everything else is the beach or the air, which no one had to build. I don't think it had a lot of CG either.

It helped that there were no box office stars that had to be paid 15 to 20 million dollars.

kswiston · Jul 23, 2017

DarkLordMalik said:
Aladdin had an extremely popular TV show unlike Beauty and the Beast. I am sure it is more popular worldwide compared to Beast but not sure on its domestic success.

That show was over 20 years ago.

The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast both received IMAX and 3D re-releases in the 2000s. Aladdin got squat.

Belle is always a central character in Disney's princess line while Jasmine is on the periphery (though there might be some casual racism involved with that).

ElBoxyBrown · Jul 23, 2017

Is this the end of euro sci-fi from Luc?

Roland_Gunner · Jul 23, 2017

DarkLordMalik said:
Aladdin had an extremely popular TV show unlike Beauty and the Beast. I am sure it is more popular worldwide compared to Beast but not sure on its domestic success.

I think people consistently under-estimate the breadth of Beauty and the Beast's appeal. Its a story that has been popular for nearly 80 years now. A new version is something that everyone from grandparents on down was interested in.

Sad Affleck · Jul 23, 2017

A question for those with experience in these matters: What are the chances of Spider-Man passing Wonder Woman worldwide?

Plasticine · Jul 23, 2017

Sgt.Pepper said:
What's with the narrative that Spider-Man is doing badly?

It didn't make a billion dollars, so it's bomba. Kevin Feige is a fraud. Venom is the only part of the rights package anyone cares about. Not Spiderbomba.

Chamber · Jul 23, 2017

Roland_Gunner said:
I think people consistently under-estimate the breadth of Beauty and the Beast's appeal. Its a story that has been popular for nearly 80 years now. A new version is something that everyone from grandparents on down was interested in.

Seriously, there's no way you can convince me Lion King is going to double up BatB at the box office. I think it's more popular but not even close to that much more popular.

Bronx-Man · Jul 23, 2017

The only superhero films hitting $1B worldwide in the near future are Infinity War and maybe Justice League if the stars align in WB's favor.

DarkLordMalik · Jul 23, 2017

kswiston said:
That show was over 20 years ago.

The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast both received IMAX and 3D re-releases in the 2000s. Aladdin got squat.

Belle is always a central character in Disney's princess line while Jasmine is on the periphery (though there might be some casual racism involved with that).

I'd say the blame lies more on Disney. They could have tried to release it but 3D ended up fading faster than most could realize and then old movies slowly started to stop getting 3D re-releases.

Disney hasn't even bothered to release Aladdin TV show on DVD or Blu-ray.

Roland_Gunner said:
I think people consistently under-estimate the breadth of Beauty and the Beast's appeal. Its a story that has been popular for nearly 80 years now. A new version is something that everyone from grandparents on down was interested in.

It is not like Aladdin is any less popular. It is from a popular classic tale as well. Not to mention Genie is a cultural icon at this point.

Sad Affleck said:
A question for those with experience in these matters: What are the chances of Spider-Man passing Wonder Woman worldwide?

As Kswiss said, at this point, all depends on how the movie fares in China and Japan. Depending on its success or failure in China, it can either end up above it, or below it.

DMczaf · Jul 23, 2017

mreddie said:
Did he forget who Dunkirk had?

The teen idol of a generation

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The Emperor · Jul 23, 2017

For me the interesting battle is gonna be Alladin Vs Mulan

Wonder which film will do better. I feel like Mulan is gonna be a big surprise. A female lead, huge gross in China, a story that has aged better potentially

DecoReturns · Jul 23, 2017

Guzim said:

I bet the WB executives actually hang this picture on their walls.

lightskintwin · Jul 23, 2017

The Emperor said:
For me the interesting battle is gonna be Alladin Vs Mulan

Wonder which film will do better. I feel like Mulan is gonna be a big surprise. A female lead, huge gross in China, a story that has aged better potentially

I think Aladdin beats out Mulan. Aladdin had the better soundtrack and is currently a hit musical on Broadway and has Will Smith in the film. Mulan won't have that luxury and there's a good chance it won't be a musical at all.

Obliterator · Jul 23, 2017

DecoReturns said:
I bet the WB executives actually hang this picture on their walls.

Lol yep with just a stack of blank checks next to it

Anth0ny · Jul 23, 2017

Bronx-Man said:
The only superhero films hitting $1B worldwide in the near future are Infinity War and maybe Justice League if the stars align in WB's favor.

Justice League hits $1b if it has word of mouth like Wonder Woman, which I pray for every night but can't picture it actually happening.

Infinity War is guaranteed. Surpassing Avengers 1 is the more interesting story there, and since the Guardians are showing up, I can see it happening.

Grizzlyjin · Jul 23, 2017

The Emperor said:
For me the interesting battle is gonna be Alladin Vs Mulan

Wonder which film will do better. I feel like Mulan is gonna be a big surprise. A female lead, huge gross in China, a story that has aged better potentially

Im betting on Aladdin. More memorable songs, characters, and you can play up the romance angle to make it an attractive date movie.

Plus, there is the Sony Mulan which is specifically aiming for that Chinese/International audience. If that comes out at the same time, I think it wins with that audience.

Lion King beats them both. Book it.

Bobby Roberts · Jul 23, 2017

hearing the audio from the potato-cam Infinity War tease last night - the pops for seeing any of the Avengers next to the Guardians was ridiculous.

Hyun Sai · Jul 23, 2017

”Everyone under 50 will go see Valerian and everyone above 50 will go see Dunkirk."

Luc Besson

kswiston · Jul 23, 2017

Bobby Roberts said:
hearing the audio from the potato-cam Infinity War tease last night - the pops for seeing any of the Avengers next to the Guardians was ridiculous.

I am expecting Infinity War to end up well above Civil War worldwide. We'll see how things look stateside over the next 6 months.

Guardians + Avengers is going to be fresher than the last two tentpole MCU entries though.

BobLoblaw · Jul 23, 2017

Valerian cost $209 million? Damn. They picked the wrong fucking weekend to release this movie. You'd think they'd know better.

hoos30 · Jul 23, 2017

Ahasverus said:
Can anybody tell me why is Spider-Man underperforming so bad?

Just because Sony has a weird contract doesn't mean we need a new Spidey every few years.

kswiston · Jul 23, 2017

BobLoblaw said:
Valerian cost $209 million? Damn. They picked the wrong fucking weekend to release this movie. You'd think they'd know better.

Let's be realistic. There was no right weekend to release Valerian on.

OrangeAtlas · Jul 23, 2017

So was a Lucy a fluke?

Both the big sci-fi movies that spawned from its sucess absolutely cratered this year.

lightskintwin · Jul 23, 2017

Grizzlyjin said:
Im betting on Aladdin. More memorable songs, characters, and you can play up the romance angle to make it an attractive date movie.

Plus, there is the Sony Mulan which is specifically aiming for that Chinese/International audience. If that comes out at the same time, I think it wins with that audience.

Lion King beats them both. Book it.

Agreed, although it's hard for me to speculate about Disney's Mulan without any casting yet and seeing the tone they plan on going with it.

Slayven · Jul 23, 2017

Guzim said:
Rough Night
Domestic Total: $21,781,082

Haha, go Girls Trip, go!!!

#Blackgirlmagic

NomarTyme said:
Whoever green lighted Valerian just got fired. Probably even earlier!

GhaleonEB said:
Besson cashed in his Lucy chips.

It is clear Lucy was a monkey paw wish for Scarlet and Luc

3N16MA · Jul 23, 2017

Infinity War will do AoU + GoTG2.

Take that high level in depth analysis, kswis.

ElBoxyBrown · Jul 23, 2017

Slayven said:
#Blackgirlmagic

And yet your still thirsty for Asian women.

gundamkyoukai · Jul 23, 2017

Bronx-Man said:
The only superhero films hitting $1B worldwide in the near future are Infinity War and maybe Justice League if the stars align in WB's favor.

It's rather sad that people have to wonder if JL going to hit a billion even with the poorer exchange rates .
Shows how bad WB fuck up but i hope they turn things around .

hurricanes · Jul 23, 2017

So Luc Besson isn't just a creep but also a delusionist? Sound about right to me.

Mass_Pincup · Jul 23, 2017

NomarTyme said:
Whoever green lighted Valerian just got fired. Probably even earlier!

They recouped 96% of the budget before it was even released.

Not to mention that they get subsidies from the French government (about 30 million euros was the rumored amount).

ElBoxyBrown · Jul 23, 2017

hurricanes said:
So Luc Besson isn't just a creep but also a delusionist? Sound about right to me.

Luc is a creep?

lightskintwin · Jul 23, 2017

Hyun Sai said:
”Everyone under and above 50 will go see Dunkirk and everyone else will go see Valerian."

Luc Besson

FTFL (Luc)

Mass_Pincup said:
They recouped 96% of the budget before it was even released.

Not to mention that they get subsidies from the French government (about 30 million euros was the rumored amount).

P&A is at least 100 million...

Somebody lost a shit load of money.

Bobby Roberts · Jul 23, 2017

ElBoxyBrown said:
Luc is a creep?

huge.

Or at least, he was. I guess it's possible he's modulated that instinct in the time since.

But that's not usually what happens.

Chamber · Jul 23, 2017

Anth0ny said:
Justice League hits $1b if it has word of mouth like Wonder Woman, which I pray for every night but can't picture it actually happening.

Infinity War is guaranteed. Surpassing Avengers 1 is the more interesting story there, and since the Guardians are showing up, I can see it happening.

IW surpassing Avengers is about as likely as Lion King hitting $1B domestic.

ElBoxyBrown · Jul 23, 2017

Bobby Roberts said:
huge.

Or at least, he was. I guess it's possible he's modulated that instinct in the time since.

But that's not usually what happens.

What kind of creep are we talking?

Kenzodielocke · Jul 23, 2017

ElBoxyBrown said:
Luc is a creep?

Isn't he into young women?

Edit: when he was 30 something, he had a pregant wife, 15.

WetWaffle · Jul 23, 2017

ElBoxyBrown said:
Luc is a creep?

He's got a wife, a very young wife, a very young pregnant wife. He wanted Natalie Portman and Jean Reno to fuck in the original script of Leon

DarkLordMalik · Jul 23, 2017

Kenzodielocke said:
Isn't he into young women?

Leon The Professional makes sense now if that is the case.

Anth0ny · Jul 23, 2017

Chamber said:
IW surpassing Avengers is about as likely as Lion King hitting $1B domestic.

So....... doable?

Schlorgan · Jul 23, 2017

Does anyone have our Spider-Man predictions grouped somewhere?

Lights and Waves · Jul 23, 2017

WW is so close to hitting $403M and breaking the superhero origin record!!!

Arex · Jul 23, 2017

Valerian

I liked it, although it kinda falls towards the end lol. Hopefully there will still be more scifi films coming.

Dunkirk was pretty good.

Apes

Loved it, I hope it makes enough money.

Sibersk Esto · Jul 23, 2017

DarkLordMalik said:
Leon The Professional makes sense now if that is the case.

He wanted that subtext to be way more overt in the final film.

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