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It'd be more likely to shatter than mete out justice.
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The Hobbit - Official Thread of Officially In Production
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It'd be more likely to shatter than mete out justice.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Pretty much. Fantasy works better in the hands of a director with some imagination.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
It would have been nice to see a different take on Middle-earth from someone who certainly came across as having a good understanding of the source material.
dehydratedbabies
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Edmond Dantès;41380318 said:
Truthfully, if I had to choose I'd choose Jackson, but I will always wonder about what could have been.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I'm sure that kind of stuff will be included in the Blu-ray/DVD extras.
THE-Pink-Dagger
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Nobody should touch LOTR or The Hobbit but Jackson, IMO, it's his baby, and he knows how to pull it off, curious to see what Del Toro would have done though.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I don't think one director should have a monopoly on Tolkien's legendarium.
dehydratedbabies
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Yeah, but I'd rather see one man's coherent vision than the disjointed visions of four different men (the Harry Potter films).
I disagree, I new director like Del Toro could have brought some really neat fresh ideas to the table.
This. So much this. I would love to see what GDT had in mind, but I'd rather have an universe that flows well. PJ showed he's the man for the job already.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Pan's Labyrinth is evidence enough of that.
But I still think Guillermo's influence will be felt throughout The Hobbit. Creature designs in particular.
Shin Johnpv
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I'm not going to mention if it would have been better or worse, but it would have been too different.
It wouldn't have come off as a cohesive world any more. It would have been a mess when viewed as 6 movies of a series.
Little Old Man
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Agreed, I thoroughly enjoyed most of Jacksons vision of Middle Earth, and the last thing I would wish for is a difference in tone, pacing, style and design between the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies.
That isn't to say GDT's vision wouldn't have been interesting to behold.
StarWars IV, V and VI feels like a part of a Trilogy and they were made by different directors.
Its not like Jackson is the only competent director who can make great stuff out of something.
Shin Johnpv
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Those 3 separate directors did not have the distinct visual style that GDT has. His style is so distinct that one could almost easily see Pan's Labyrinth taking place in the same universe as the Hellboy movies.
As some one else mentioned, look at the Harry Potter movies and how much things change with the directors, while they yes exist in the same universe, some movies feel so different from others. Not just for their stories.
I don't think GDT's distinct visual style would have meshed well with the one Peter Jackson nurtured in the first 3.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
The Wargs are quite a departure too and that may be down to Guillermo's influence.
At least they don't like hyenas anymore.
Edmond Dantès;41402376 said:
Yeah, definitely an improvement.
I was at an antique shop with my girlfriend this afternoon and we both made a B-line for their old books section, I came across a copy of the 50th Anniversary Edition of The Hobbit from 1987:
That's not the one I saw, just a Google image. But the thing looked practically brand new. It looks identical to the 75th Anniversary edition, except instead it's gold instead of green. To bad I didn't have $100 to spare
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I feel your pain.Yeah, definitely an improvement.
I was at an antique shop with my girlfriend this afternoon and we both made a B-line for their old books section, I came across a copy of the 50th Anniversary Edition of The Hobbit from 1987:
That's not the one I saw, just a Google image. But the thing looked practically brand new. It looks identical to the 75th Anniversary edition, except instead it's gold instead of green. To bad I didn't have $100 to spare
Design wise, sure. Otherwise Jackson stomps him.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
On the topic of swords; I wonder if the history of Glamdring will be explored in The Hobbit.
The likes of the great King Turgon,
his adopted son Tuor, the only man to ever be counted as one of the Elves and to remain in Valinor or the even mightier Ecthelion who defeated the Lord of the Valaraukar; Gothmog, the Voice of Morgoth in a tremendous duel which saw them both fighting while they sank to the bottom of the fountain of Gondolin ending in both their deaths.
And even a mention of a certain Glorfindel who Peter seems to dislike.
The likes of the great King Turgon,
(who Glamdring originally belonged to)
And even a mention of a certain Glorfindel who Peter seems to dislike.
NullPointer
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That's the version I have, and was a present from my father many, many years ago. Its one of the few physical books I still own.
That's not the one I saw, just a Google image. But the thing looked practically brand new. It looks identical to the 75th Anniversary edition, except instead it's gold instead of green. To bad I didn't have $100 to spare
And gotta love shopping around old stores. I got a first edition Silmarillion from a corner used book store in New Orleans for $8.
Wiggum2007
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I'm okay with Jackson directing but it will be a crime if we never get to see Del Toro's designs for the Hobbit.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Christopher Tolkien has this to say in Return of the Shadow (History of Middle-earth volume 6).
Also, the following plot notes were scribbled down by Tolkien, something he did very often when writing his legandarium. Some of these jottings are lost forever, but Christopher has salvaged much, hence The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, Book of Lost Tales, early drafts of The Hobbit, LOTR are in existence today.
The notes predating the letter mentioned above by Christopher:
Seems evident that Tolkien always had it mind that Glorfindel from LOTR was the very same Glorfindel who thought bravely in the Fall of Gondolin. But with the stresses of publication, his work etc he just forgot about the earlier concept of Glorfindel when writing that letter, but later realized his error and set the record straight.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Glorfindel's battle with a balrog on the mountains encircling Gondolin is certainly one of the greatest acts of valour exhibited in the Arda mythos.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
My favourite bad ass moment of the Tolkien universe is the Fingolfin vs Morgoth fight.
Actually nothing comes close in the Hobbit and LotR to the epicness of what happens in the Silmarillion. Kinda a bummer that the Tolkien estate are such whiney bitches. I would love to see some of those things on screen.
Actually nothing comes close in the Hobbit and LotR to the epicness of what happens in the Silmarillion. Kinda a bummer that the Tolkien estate are such whiney bitches. I would love to see some of those things on screen.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Nothing to do with being whiny as has been stated many times before. The Silmarillion, the history of the elves, Beren and Luthien meant more to Tolkien than any of his other works so Christopher has every right to be protective of his father's work and it is highly disrespectful to refer to him in such a manner after all he has done.My favourite bad ass moment of the Tolkien universe is the Fingolfin vs Morgoth fight.
Actually nothing comes close in the Hobbit and LotR to the epicness of what happens in the Silmarillion. Kinda a bummer that the Tolkien estate are such whiney bitches. I would love to see some of those things on screen.
The Silmarillion bears witness to the truths of Tolkien's heart and mind that he never abandoned. The Silmarillion mythos was scribbled down in his youth, when for him Elvish magic lingered yet mightily in the woods and hills of Luthany; in his old age all was gone West-over-sea, and an end was indeed come for the Eldar of story and of song.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Less than a 100 days until An Unexpected Journey's premiere.
ScreenSplitter
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In my mind there was no other man for the job. Jackson made LotR a success where others had failed. Del Toro is great, but... yeah, Jackson all the way.
Edmond Dantès;41447704 said:Glorfindel's battle with a balrog on the mountains encircling Gondolin is certainly one of the greatest acts of valour exhibited in the Arda mythos.
Man, I love John Howe's art, but he was always bad at drawing humans. Glorfindel just looks terrible, his sword, the way he holds it, his wrist unnaturally bent and the crappy hilt... it feels like he spent an hour drawing the balrog and ten seconds drawing Glorfindel
Same with the Fingolfin/Morgoth painting. Morgoth looks badass though. Maybe he just liked villains more?
Man, I love John Howe's art, but he was always bad at drawing humans. Glorfindel just looks terrible, his sword, the way he holds it, his wrist unnaturally bent and the crappy hilt... it feels like he spent an hour drawing the balrog and ten seconds drawing Glorfindel
Same with the Fingolfin/Morgoth painting. Morgoth looks badass though. Maybe he just liked villains more?
His biggest strength, in my opinion, has always been in composition. He really knows how to frame an epic looking scene. He also knows how to make scenes just look really exciting, there's a good sense of motion to his style. People are definitely not his strength, but I find them to be rendered well-enough that it doesn't detract from his art for me.
I've always been of the mind that - overall - Alan Lee is the more technically competent artist between the two of them if we're going to get down to critiquing there works. I literally cannot find fault with most of Lee's catalog. Then again it could just be that Lee's style is simply more to my tastes, but either way they're both pretty much masters of translating Tolkien's words into images. Ted Nasmith as well.
TheLaughingMan
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Big fan of Guillermo movies. Even though I'm still going to see the Hobbit movies. I would be much more excited if he was directing them instead of Peter Jackson. Hopefully, I enjoy the Hobbit movies. ^^
InvincibleAgent
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I was at an antique shop with my girlfriend this afternoon and we both made a B-line for their old books section, I came across a copy of the 50th Anniversary Edition of The Hobbit from 1987:
That's not the one I saw, just a Google image. But the thing looked practically brand new. It looks identical to the 75th Anniversary edition, except instead it's gold instead of green. To bad I didn't have $100 to spare
That's the version my dad owns, which is the only version of The Hobbit I've read. Feels like a book bound for a king
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I'm not usually the fan for covers, but these two caught my eye in particular
Concerning Hobbits
Rohan
I can't wait to see what Howard Shore brings us!
Concerning Hobbits
Rohan
I can't wait to see what Howard Shore brings us!
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
The scores will be most assuredly brilliant, but there won't be any returning themes except maybe the Shire theme according to the author of the music of the Lord of the Rings companion book.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Two Hobbit tie-ins.
August 30, 2012.
August 30, 2012.
8 Nov, 2012
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Think of it like Shakespeare for example. Many different adaptations all with their own unique style.
As for a reboot, expect one sooner. A clause states that WB must release a LOTR/Hobbit film(s) every ten years or else they relinquish the licence.
The Lord of the Rings readapted by 2022.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Elijah Wood on Filming 'The Hobbit
I like Elijah and his depiction of Frodo, but I hope we don't see too much of him.
http://www.parade.com/celebrity/celebrity-parade/2012/08/28-elijah-wood-the-hobbit.html
I like Elijah and his depiction of Frodo, but I hope we don't see too much of him.
Discotheque
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I'd have liked to see Del Toro's designs in the film but still he makes awful english-language films.
I think he's only an ideas man to be honest. Hellboy movies sucked ass. And Blade 2 was cool but it had nothing on the first film.
I think he's only an ideas man to be honest. Hellboy movies sucked ass. And Blade 2 was cool but it had nothing on the first film.
Well he said it was "a lovely visit" which kinda indicates he won't have that much screen time.Edmond Dantès;41521221 said:
I think it's a pretty natural and logical way of connecting The Hobbit with LOTR by having old Bilbo telling the story to Frodo. I'd guess those scenes won't be that long (maybe excluding the first scene of the first movie and the last scene of the third movie).
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