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Remember the Sonic 2 HD fan project? Apparently it's back [UP] Demo out
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giancarlo123x
Banned
Artstyle is terrible in my opinion. Thankfully we live in a world where sonic mania exists now.
The trees remind me of a cheap flash game.
The trees remind me of a cheap flash game.
Daffy Duck
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Looks great. Can't wait for the full thing.
sixteen-bit
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Shoulda done the GOAT S3K
Labombadog
Member
I honestly expected a lot worse. Looks preeety preeety good to me.
FreeMufasa
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That looks like ass
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Did this rip off the Sonic Mania trailer?
R10Neymarfan
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S2hd team helped create Mania. Honestly a mania sequel with this art style wouldn't be too bad
Perfect Blue
Banned
Oh? I had no idea. That's really cool.
completely different groups of people
oh man if you only knew the history behind those trees
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I think this looks great. I'd be happy for Mania to go in this direction.
I think still images of this are misleading, and it looks much much better in motion.
Artstyle is terrible in my opinion. Thankfully we live in a world where sonic mania exists now.
The trees remind me of a cheap flash game.
I think still images of this are misleading, and it looks much much better in motion.
Chemical Plant looks really nice, the stuff with nature (i.e. Emerald Hill and whatever Zone that image is supposed to be) still look pretty bad. It's a work in progress though so hopefully they can iterate on it. Good luck to the dev(s).
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GhostTrick
Banned
This looks bad IMO. The art style looks like a flash game. If they're going for the hand drawn one, they should aim for sprites with the same art direction as Sonic CD intro or Sonic Mania intro and visuals like Wonder Boy The Dragon Trap remake.
Triforce141
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Monado Blade
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Trailer music sounds crap. Graphics look crap. I dunno. Not my thing I guess
The Albatross
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I was expecting it to look terrible but it actually looks pretty good in motion.
Damn Silly
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There's just something...off about the art.
Completely 1:1 HD recreations of low resolution pixel art has a habit of ending up like this, precisely because it was designed specifically to work within that level of fidelity in the first place. The psychology that underlines pixel art is very different, since it's a very implicit artform that relies heavily on our brain's pattern recognition to fill in all the gaps to make sense of what we're seeing. When the artstyle is recreated at a much higher native resolution, that entire aspect is lost, and since it's so overly commited to preserving the same style of detail, there's nothing new in there to compensate for what was lost in translation.
That's why this whole reverence for preserving the original style in remakes of old visuals comes across as such a giant catch 22 for me.
AwakenedCloud
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Was this the one with the dude who was adamant about being slavishly obsessive to the art being 1:1 with the sprites in Sonic 2, often resulting in things looking not so great? Then, in the end, he hijacked the code for himself?
If I'm remembering this correctly, the project had a really, really weird history...
Not this current team though. This project changed hands a couple of times.
This project has been revived like... three times? Don't have much confidence they'll pull it out.
Something tells me thats easier said than done
The Double Fine remakes of the old LucasArts adventure game suffer from the same problem. (Day of the Tentacle and Full Throttle)
No, specifically the Hill Top tree sprites in a much older incarnation of the Sonic 2 HD fan project spawned page-long arguments which are absolutely hilarious to revisit in hindsight.
http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=20100&st=241
The Broken Ska Record
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It really doesn't.
Yeah, initially after seeing a screenshot I thought "meh" but after seeing the trailer, in motion, I'd definitely buy that on a console. Looks great.
Lights and Waves
Member
This looks beautiful. This is what Sonic Mania should have looked like.
I see, thanks for the explanation.
I guess not every studio is able to recreate a whole new artstyle and do something like Wondeer Boy : The Dragon's Trap.
I wish, though.
Unknown?
Member
Nah it looks amazing, Chemical plant has depth to the background now!Artstyle is terrible in my opinion. Thankfully we live in a world where sonic mania exists now.
The trees remind me of a cheap flash game.
HellforLeather
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I think it looks pretty decent, not super thrilled about the art style but it looks alright. Is it just me or does it seem kinda...slow? Its been a while since I played Sonic 2 but the HD remaster just looks like the pacing is off from what I remember.
Not a fan of how it looks. It seems like they took the same color pallet from the original game and I don't think it works very well outside sprite work. I'm also not feeling the gradients used to render the assets.
Emerald Hill Zone looks very muddy, mainly because while everything is rendered in high fidelity, none of the materials such as grass and rocks are reacting to light in a believable manner. The original colors just don't work without further refinements. It works better on Chemical Zone tho.
Emerald Hill Zone looks very muddy, mainly because while everything is rendered in high fidelity, none of the materials such as grass and rocks are reacting to light in a believable manner. The original colors just don't work without further refinements. It works better on Chemical Zone tho.
It's one of those peculiar things where 16bit games look beautiful based on what little they had to work with.
And this game sure has a whole lot more resolution to make use of, it doesn't quite rub off right when so much of it is filled with digital, nice-and-quick airbrushing and gradients.
Saying that Major Magnet does look beautiful imo. Maybe this game just needs an extra something else to justify the pop-art/fake CGi aesphetic the original games had, like giving the graphics dynamic effects such as subtle specular/diffusion or hues slowly pulsating.
And this game sure has a whole lot more resolution to make use of, it doesn't quite rub off right when so much of it is filled with digital, nice-and-quick airbrushing and gradients.
Saying that Major Magnet does look beautiful imo. Maybe this game just needs an extra something else to justify the pop-art/fake CGi aesphetic the original games had, like giving the graphics dynamic effects such as subtle specular/diffusion or hues slowly pulsating.
Lucky Seven
Banned
Looks amazing and not a rip-off of Mania (it came before ffs). I had a desktop wallpaper of theirs for the longest time after it's cancellation. Game looks crisper and more beautiful than Mania too. Hopefully cynics won't knock it down.
Seems like some of their HD changes are hit and miss. Chemical Plant overall looks good, but Hilltop looks like shit. The soundtrack news also has me somewhat worried because if the early Sonic games did one thing right all of the time, it was the soundtrack.
Anyway, when's Sega going to shut this down? I'd assume with Sonic Mania, that team would be the ones working on any HD remakes of old Sonic games and not another fan group.
Anyway, when's Sega going to shut this down? I'd assume with Sonic Mania, that team would be the ones working on any HD remakes of old Sonic games and not another fan group.
Professor Beef
Banned
Sega rarely, if ever, goes after Sonic fan games.
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