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Microsoft: Xbox One reversals haven't hurt us; "we're in an enviable position"
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Prince Vultan
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Ha...hahaha...
...Hahahahahahahahahaha.
NeoGAF is predominately pro-PS4. I don't think I am going that far out on a limb. So, it's easier to simply say "NeoGAF" as a collective, with the understanding that we are all in the pro-PS4 camp. How would I better communicate this?
Lots chosen no as well, why am i being forced an item i dont want when millions of others also chose not to buy it.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I wonder why
It's better to not communicate that at all. Better to just ask the question what can Microsoft do to appease the haters.
What can Microsoft do for me personally? They have to come out with the most powerful console of the generation for the lowest price and provide a wealth of first party exclusives from a wide range of genres. Then provide greater value in the non-paywall system with media apps for free.
I don't necessarily disagree. I was 100% out when it lacked used games but I'm fully back in once they reversed course on that. They need to get the price level with the PS4 though -- that is going to prevent me from buying one for some time.
Dudebros are still going to prefer the Xbone to the PS4. They have a very dedicated fanbase in the US.
Dudebros are still going to prefer the Xbone to the PS4. They have a very dedicated fanbase in the US.
RedNumberFive
Banned
"We've always been very committed to consumer choice."
Please stop saying this. This has NEVER been the case.
Please stop saying this. This has NEVER been the case.
By not generalizing. It never makes for a good argument, so don't do it. Sony has a lot of well-earned momentum right now, while MS really screwed themselves around E3. Its deserved.
SwiftDeath
Member
And don't anymore?
How many people do you know that bought kinect 1 are
1. Happy with it?
2. Use it regularly?
3. Still have it and/or have it connected to their tv right now?
Honestly kinect would do better if there was no kinect 1 and they had somehow still gotten to kinect 2 tech
Sure some people were happy with it in dance and the sports game but that's about it
Triggerhappytel
Member
Everything MS say seems to suggest they will be bringing back all their bullshit digital practices in the future. They've changed their policies to appease people in the short term, but I think they're going to wait for the 'right' time to reintroduce it and implement the Family Sharing thing to try and soften the hate.
I'm not even sure if that's true right now. They're probably thinking "well, at least that shit is behind us".
Huh?
Maybe it's because I'm terribly sick at the moment but I don't understand this post. I was just trying to indicate that really the only person or entity that would be enviable of the position they are in would be Nintendo, especially since that company is in dire need of some policy changes as well. That and they could seriously use a level of interest in their console hardware that comes anywhere near to rivaling that of the Xbone
You're "forced" to buy the item, because MS wants to guarantee an install base. They guarantee the install base, devs will make cool shit.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Take a look at Windows 8 and Microsoft Office and how they are handled, now why would I want to buy a games console from the same people?
I bought a Kinect for my kids for XMas. It was used for 2 days, sat dormant for like 6 months, and at some point I bought Dance Central and used it a bit more. At some point I unplugged it and threw it in a box somewhere and no one noticed it was gone.
Fool me once, shame on you, yada, yada, yada.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
PR is going to PR. It's funny, and provide plenty of entertainment. Keep going MS.
There is one huge benefit. They responded fast, and aggressively. I have a feeling this will make next gen very exciting.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
What a ridiculous thing to say, only one console can possibly be the most powerful per generation. You also keep going on about these media apps all the time, I assume you don't play online games but want to watch Netflix?
Not that it matters because you will only ever buy one console per generation and it will be the PS4 this time round.
Deadly Joker
Member
I need proof. Show me a video of a cool Kinect game for Xbox One before I have to buy it.
I am part of NeoGAF and I am neither pro-PS4 or anti-PS4. I am simply a gamer who primarily plays on Xbox and sometimes on PC. Generalizations don't work for both sides.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
It's exactly this kind of arrogance that dropped them in the shit to begin with.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
So trade places with the PS4? Lol
Live Free or Die
Banned
Pride cometh before the fall.
Nymphae
Banned
So the theory goes. I'll believe that when I see it.
H_Prestige
Banned
Why will it happen eventually? Just because MS wanted to turn retail games into software that you license doesn't mean it's going to happen. The fact they were forced to turn around on that proves the market won't put up with that shit.
Personally I would re-quote that... GAMERS are pro-PS4 - that indication is made by ALOT of previous MS dudes picking the apparent superior console next gen, PS4.
Stop what? Help me understand. I'm new to the site.
I'm trying to create a dialogue as to what MicroSoft needs to do to win consumer support (is that better?).
I have my PS4 preordered on Amazon. It's clear Sony is playing their cards right. Just objectively looking at MicroSoft as a corporation, they are doing what you would expect any big business to do when faced with overwhelming negativity. You can substitute "MicroSoft" with "Proector&Gamble" or any other corporate entity and they're following the marketing playbook. Which, again, is what I, as a consumer, would hope for.
maverick40
Junior Member
This is Sony 2006
Hey, that was my line :I
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I guess I don't understand their PR.
On one hand, you have someone admit that they didnt treat their Xbox fans right and goes on an apology tour.
On the other hand, you have someone come out and say Microsoft was completely committed to their fans from the start and that they're in an enviable position.
So which is it? Are they apologetic or are they completely satisfied with their whole plan from day 1?
On one hand, you have someone admit that they didnt treat their Xbox fans right and goes on an apology tour.
On the other hand, you have someone come out and say Microsoft was completely committed to their fans from the start and that they're in an enviable position.
So which is it? Are they apologetic or are they completely satisfied with their whole plan from day 1?
Will they? they had a fat install base for kinect 1 and we got a pile of stinky turds.
We did? No. I don't agree.
Deadly Joker
Member
Nightengale
Member
Sigh.
I know part of MS's strategy is to be constantly present in the media-space, but they need to stop talking about their policies and stuff. Talk about games, don't talk policies.
When you say stuff like the indie policy was long planned, and yet the roundtable with dev happens a few months before launch, and when Minecraft/Below are not self-published, your actions betray your transparent lies.
When you say shit like this enviable craziness, when both Nintendo and Sony has long been offering physical/digital in this current gen just as you did, you're just spewing lies. There's nothing about your current physical/digital approach that's different from what the competitors are offering.
I know part of MS's strategy is to be constantly present in the media-space, but they need to stop talking about their policies and stuff. Talk about games, don't talk policies.
When you say stuff like the indie policy was long planned, and yet the roundtable with dev happens a few months before launch, and when Minecraft/Below are not self-published, your actions betray your transparent lies.
When you say shit like this enviable craziness, when both Nintendo and Sony has long been offering physical/digital in this current gen just as you did, you're just spewing lies. There's nothing about your current physical/digital approach that's different from what the competitors are offering.
RedNumberFive
Banned
With this statement, it's official: Microsoft thinks we're all idiots. There is no other conclusion one could reach.
Nothing. The majority of this board is on the Sony train. Microsoft has and are continuing to correct their mistakes, but it'll take awhile for the hardcore to come back around. I can't say I blame the naysayers, but I thinks it's becoming a tad too much.
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