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PHOENIXZERO
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(02-17-2017, 06:17 AM)
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Well, I guess the Grundy plot is over? O_o Of course Jughead's dad would be the gang leader in this.
GhostWriter24
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(02-17-2017, 06:20 AM)
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Any theories for who broke into Sheriff Keller's home?

Jughead's next potential home?
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ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 06:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by GhostWriter24

Any theories for who broke into Sheriff Keller's home?

Jughead's next potential home?

Archie's place should have an open bed. It looks pretty big. We need some bonding time.
anaron
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(02-17-2017, 06:22 AM)
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Yessss at the worst part of the show being wrapped up. Though she's clearly evil thank god



"And let the neighbours know" lmao


I love Alice so much.
caliph95
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(02-17-2017, 06:22 AM)
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For once i'm in complete agreement with Alice.
ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 06:28 AM)
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Chapter Five: Heart of Darkness Trailer
Dahbomb
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(02-17-2017, 06:28 AM)
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Man the adults in this show are true scumbags. Only Archie's dad seems like he is stable in the head, maybe the sherrif too. Even got ourselves a corrupt mayor now.

I am still all in on Betty actually being Polly. So Betty apparently knew how to break into a car and a small safe? Nah man, she's playing that 5 DEEEEE chess! The longest of cons!

And I didn't believe Grundy's sob story for a second.
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(02-17-2017, 06:31 AM)
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One girl's reaction to tonight's ending: https://twitter.com/RobynEJeffrey/st...75335656513537
ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 06:34 AM)
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Here are some upcoming episode synopses. Should answer some questions about who may or may not be showing up.

Chapter Five: Heart of Darkness

THE HOUSE OF SECRETS AND LIES - With Jason's funeral around the corner, the Blossom family moves forward with last minute preparations - and a secret agenda. Meanwhile, Archie's (KJ Apa) attempt to refocus his energy on football comes to a halt when an opportunity to work with a new music mentor presents itself. Betty (Lili Reinhart) dives deeper into her investigation of Jason's death and unearths some dark revelations about her family. Elsewhere, after uncovering secrets about her own family, Veronica (Camila Mendes) forms an unlikely friendship with Cheryl (Madelaine Petsch), who is having a tougher time with Jason's impending funeral than she lets on. Finally, Hermoine (Marisol Nichols) turns to Fred (Luke Perry) for help after receiving a cryptic message from the Southside Serpents. Cole Sprouse and Madchen Amick also star. Jesse Warn directed the episode written by Ross Maxwell (#105).

Chapter Six: Faster, Pussycats! Kill! Kill!

ROMANCES AND RIVALRIES - With Riverdale High's annual variety show around the corner, Valerie's (guest star Hayley Law) efforts to help Archie (KJ Apa) prepare for his big performance lead to some major fallout between her and Josie (Ashleigh Murray). Meanwhile, Betty (Lili Reinhart) and Jughead's (Cole Sprouse) investigation into Jason's death brings them to a home for troubled youth and face-to-face with Polly (guest star Tiera Skovbye). Just as her relationship with her mother was on the upswing, an unexpected betrayal sends Veronica (Camila Mendes) spiraling, while Josie deals with her own pressures at home after her overbearing father returns for her performance at the variety show. Finally, Hermoine's (Marisol Nichols) first day at Andrew's Construction finds her and Fred (Luke Perry) growing closer. Madchen Amick also stars. Steve Adelson directed the episode written by Tessa Leigh Williams & Nicholas Zwart (#106).

Chapter Seven: In a Lonely Place

THE SEARCH IS ON - When a major piece of evidence is mysteriously destroyed, new rumors begin to swirl as to who was really behind Jason's murder. Tensions build when Jughead's (Cole Sprouse) father returns to the fray and it's revealed that he and Fred (Luke Perry) have some unresolved issues between them. Meanwhile, Veronica (Camila Mendes) takes matters into her own hands after her fight with Hermione (Marisol Nichols). Cheryl (Madelaine Petsch) approaches Betty (Lili Reinhart) with an unexpected proposal that leaves Betty torn. KJ Apa and Madchen Amick also star. Allison Anders directed the episode written by Aaron Allen (#107).

PHOENIXZERO
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(02-17-2017, 06:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by GhostWriter24

One girl's reaction to tonight's ending: https://twitter.com/RobynEJeffrey/st...75335656513537

O_o

Originally Posted by ZeroX03

Here are some upcoming episode synopses. Should answer some questions about who may or may not be showing up.

Chapter Five: Heart of Darkness


Chapter Six: Faster, Pussycats! Kill! Kill!


Chapter Seven: In a Lonely Place

Interesting lack of Archie also goodbye Miss Grundy, hello Miss Mundy.
WrenchNinja
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(02-17-2017, 06:51 AM)
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Lmao Billy Loomis being jugheads dad
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(02-17-2017, 07:00 AM)
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Aww, no more Grundy. lol
anaron
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(02-17-2017, 07:03 AM)
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I hope she ends up being a succubus and/or a cult leader
GhostWriter24
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(02-17-2017, 07:05 AM)
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For those of you curious about the Southside Serpents, they were a part of the Archie universe:

ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 07:12 AM)
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GhostWriter (who I'm going to assume is Cole because it's fun to believe) when are we getting those official Jughead hats for sale? WB merch should be frothing at the mouth to get those bad boys out there haha.
AoM
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(02-17-2017, 07:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by PHOENIXZERO

O_o.

Yeah... I have to believe that she's familiar with the characters, or just a really emotional person.
GhostWriter24
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(02-17-2017, 07:17 AM)
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Def not Cole haha, but yeah I agree about the hats. I'm sure they have plans to make them, if they haven't already started. Think I read something about Hot Topic reaching out to Riverdale a short while ago with merch ideas, too.
ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 07:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by GhostWriter24

Def not Cole haha, but yeah I agree about the hats. I'm sure they have plans to make them, if they haven't already started. Think I read something about Hot Topic reaching out to Riverdale a short while ago with merch ideas, too.

Sure thing Dylan
the_firewithin
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(02-17-2017, 03:07 PM)
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Cheryl continues to be the best crazy
Alpha_eX
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(02-17-2017, 03:09 PM)
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Damn those unmarked spoilers at the top of the page.

I come in here to see the reactions before watching, before someone calls me out.
ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 03:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alpha_eX

Damn those unmarked spoilers at the top of the page.

I come in here to see the reactions before watching, before someone calls me out.

The reactions aren't going to be marked spoilers, it's fair game when it airs. Why are you even complaining, you did it to yourself.
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(02-17-2017, 04:03 PM)
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Catching up now. I knew shit must have went down cause "Ms Grundy" was the #2 trending topic on Twitter last night.

- B&V Investigation Squad is back at it again. Committing felonies on a weekly basis now.
- Betty stole the gun?! Why would you do that?! This Alice Cooper freakout is pretty legitimate under the circumstances.
- Kevin trying to eat his feelings. Been there before haha
- Skeet Ulrich!
- So Kevin is a snake charmer...oh dear...
- Aww poor "Ms Grundy." Although, this is getting off easy *wink*. Their relationship is wrong. Even if Archie started it, she's the adult. Alice Cooper might've had an ulterior motive but she's not wrong. Grundy was thirsty as fuck at the end there.
- Man, I didn't know Jughead's home life was this messed up.
Alpha_eX
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(02-17-2017, 04:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZeroX03

The reactions aren't going to be marked spoilers, it's fair game when it airs. Why are you even complaining, you did it to yourself.

It's common for there to be clear marked spoiler threads on gaf alongside spoilered ones. Not really my fault for expecting the same standard to follow for the Riverdale thread. Fair play if it was a week, but it's only just aired.
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(02-17-2017, 04:09 PM)
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I'm kind of loving Kevin.
ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 04:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alpha_eX

It's common for there to be clear marked spoiler threads on gaf alongside spoilered ones. Not really my fault for expecting the same standard to follow for the Riverdale thread. Fair play if it was a week, but it's only just aired.

What? That's not the case for network shows. Gaming side, Netflix or movies sure. But for broadcast TV shows the rule is very clear, once it's airing the tags are off. I'm aware it's Netflix outside of the US, but it's live where it counts.
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(02-17-2017, 04:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Monocle

Hey has anyone else noticed that Archie is hot af? I thought I would point that out in case anyone hadn't noticed what I keep noticing each and every episode.

Just started watching and loving the hotness. Archie is a total stud, Betty is all girl next door and Veronica has the classic trust fund brunette appeal.
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(02-17-2017, 04:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alligatorjandro

Who was that girl in the picture

Jughead's sister Jellybean, he mentioned she would go to the drive-in with the family when he was talking to the mayor.

Originally Posted by GhostWriter24

Jughead's next potential home?

He can sleep in my room. 🙃
Goodstyle
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(02-17-2017, 04:43 PM)
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This episode has me thinking that maybe Alice Cooper isn't so bad after all. I mean, ya, she's a bitch, but she really cares about her daughter and she's 100% right about Ms. Grundy.
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Originally Posted by Alpha_eX

It's common for there to be clear marked spoiler threads on gaf alongside spoilered ones. Not really my fault for expecting the same standard to follow for the Riverdale thread. Fair play if it was a week, but it's only just aired.

You've been watching too many Netflix shows.
Grizzlyjin
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(02-17-2017, 04:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by B-Dex

I'm kind of loving Kevin.

Same. I like that they haven't been playing up his gayness for the sake of drama. For example, his dad gave him some sound advice.

Speaking of the Sheriff. I don't think Jason's killer smashed his murder board. That's too perfect. I think it was someone who just didn't like him sniffing around.

Originally Posted by Goodstyle

This episode has me thinking that maybe Alice Cooper isn't so bad after all. I mean, ya, she's a bitch, but she really cares about her daughter and she's 100% right about Ms. Grundy.

Seriously. Alice is kinda nutty but your daughter hiding a gun and writing about her friend's secret bang sessions with a teacher is going to send any parent into Defcon 1. I want to know why she hates Archie so much. Is she projecting the Polly & Jason thing onto him and Betty, maybe?
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(02-17-2017, 04:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin

Seriously. Alice is kinda nutty but your daughter hiding a gun and writing about her friend's secret bang sessions with a teacher is going to send any parent into Defcon 1. I want to know why she hates Archie so much. Is she projecting the Polly & Jason thing onto him and Betty, maybe?

Their dialogue at the end seems to imply she's projecting. "I am Elizabeth, I am not Polly. Archie is not Jason. So stop using them as an excuse to control my life!". At this point Alice is probably prejudiced against redheads, lol.
ZeroX03
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(02-17-2017, 05:00 PM)
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Alice is mentally ill, extremely overprotective and detrimental to Betty. As far as the show crafted, she's a villain. But as a person, I don't think she's evil. Just a terrible mother and insufferable person, doing what she thinks is right.

Now Betty's bland father...
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Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin

I want to know why she hates Archie so much. Is she projecting the Polly & Jason thing onto him and Betty, maybe?

Well, Betty pretty much comes out and says as much last night. If I were Archie, I'd dye my hair for awhile. :P
Grizzlyjin
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(02-17-2017, 05:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fuu

Their dialogue at the end seems to imply she's projecting. "I am Elizabeth, I am not Polly. Archie is not Jason. So stop using them as an excuse to control my life!". At this point Alice is probably prejudiced against redheads, lol.

That sounds right. Funny hearing Betty be adamant about not being confused for Polly, she didn't seem too sure about it last week lol

Redheads on this show are not to be trusted. My theory is still that Archie, Jason, Cheryl, and Ethel have formed a RedHead cabal that is trying to take over Riverdale, with Archie's mom sitting at the very top. Wasn't the murder board made using RED string? #ItsAllConnected #JusticeForRedheaddale
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(02-17-2017, 05:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by fallengorn

Someone needs to gif Betty after she opened the lock.



Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin

Grundy was thirsty as fuck at the end there.



Seriously, lol. Hilarious that she had the same drink and sunglasses she had when she and Archie started doing it. I guess that's her man hunt kit.



edit: lmao

https://twitter.com/WriterRAS/status/832413756206436352
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GhostWriter24
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(02-17-2017, 06:09 PM)
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The Joneses:





Betty being Betty:


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(02-17-2017, 07:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhostWriter24


Betty being Betty:


How can you not love her?!
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(02-17-2017, 07:47 PM)
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Love the show!!!
It's so meta, New and fresh!!
PHOENIXZERO
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Originally Posted by Alpha_eX

It's common for there to be clear marked spoiler threads on gaf alongside spoilered ones. Not really my fault for expecting the same standard to follow for the Riverdale thread. Fair play if it was a week, but it's only just aired.

That has never been the rule for weekly network shows (or shows that air weekly period) and this is a network show, not a Netflix show despite being on Netflix outside the U.S. That rule is in place because people watch Netflix produced shows at their own pace and some will binge said show over the course of a single day while others will take their time if they choose to which is why that restriction is in place. That rule wouldn't be in place in those OTs either if Netflix released one episode at a time instead of dumping it all at once.
anaron
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(02-17-2017, 07:58 PM)
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The girls are all so wonderful in their own way easily the best part of the show.

Betty and Cheryl cracked me up so much.
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(02-17-2017, 07:58 PM)
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Everyone is a closet gay until Kevin gets to them.
the_firewithin
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(02-17-2017, 08:04 PM)
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Jughead dad skeet ulrich?
GhostWriter24
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Originally Posted by the_firewithin

Jughead dad skeet ulrich?

Yeah he is, and a high ranking member of the Serpents.
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(02-17-2017, 08:50 PM)
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Fun episode. A lot lighter on the dramatic reveals but still good, and the show should probably lean back on that for a while since they can't have every episode be some big shock since it's twelve or thirteen episodes this season.

Hopefully Archie becomes more enjoyable now with Grundy gone.

I can't buy the Betty is Polly theory. Wasn't Polly like a known person if she dated Jason enough to make Cheryl hate her guts? Why would she, or everyone (including Archie) pretend to just go along with Betty suddenly developing a split personality?
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Originally Posted by BewareTheBatsie

Fun episode. A lot lighter on the dramatic reveals but still good, and the show should probably lean back on that for a while since they can't have every episode be some big shock since it's twelve or thirteen episodes this season.

Hopefully Archie becomes more enjoyable now with Grundy gone.

I can't buy the Betty is Polly theory. Wasn't Polly like a known person if she dated Jason enough to make Cheryl hate her guts? Why would she, or everyone (including Archie) pretend to just go along with Betty suddenly developing a split personality?

I concur on all counts here. The Betty / Polly mystery, whatever it is, is really well done though - there are just enough little things that feel off about Betty and her interactions with her mother ("What's my name?") that it's clear there's something lurking further down the road, without it being easy to clock exactly what that might be. That applies to a lot of the storylines, come to think of it.
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(02-17-2017, 09:35 PM)
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I appreciate this episode more in retrospect than I did while watching it initially.

Betty was dumb for taking the gun with her, but considering her darker side, who knows what she might have been planning to do with it. Kill her mom, perhaps?

Jennifer Gibson/Geraldine Grundy thing was nuts. I didn't buy the schtick about her being in an abusive relationship and changing her name for one second. At the end, you still see her checking out young guys with the same glasses and everything.

The B-plot with the theater was more engaging. Hermione and the Mayor conspiring to buy the drive-in lot and the Southside Serpents being paid to lower the property value. I'm more interested in what is going on with the adults, because they have a TON of skeletons in their closets.

I feel bad for Jughead. Man, losing the one place you treasured the most as a kid that was also your make-shift home. And the fact that his dad (wtf) is one of the Serpents and was nonchalantly involved in making his son homeless is abhorrent.
Where's Hot Dog though? Don't tell me he's dead. :(
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Originally Posted by Imperial Bishop

Betty was dumb for taking the gun with her, but considering her darker side, who knows what she might have been planning to do with it. Kill her mom, perhaps?

I think she rationalized it with a less insidious reason: she thought Grundy had something to do with Jason's death and was worried that she might kill Archie with the gun.
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Originally Posted by Imperial Bishop

Betty was dumb for taking the gun with her, but considering her darker side, who knows what she might have been planning to do with it. Kill her mom, perhaps?

I like the idea mentioned earlier in the thread that Betty purposefully left the gun there, knowing it would set her Mum off on one to shake the whole thing loose and sort out her Archie/Grundy problem. Even if it's never mentioned again in the show, I like that there's just that small seed of doubt as to her intentions.
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Originally Posted by Fuu

I think she rationalized it with a less insidious reason: she thought Grundy had something to do with Jason's death and was worried that she might kill Archie with the gun.

That makes sense, but why keep it in her room of all places?

And does she not have a lock for her diary?

Originally Posted by Mister_Bubbles

I like the idea mentioned earlier in the thread that Betty purposefully left the gun there, knowing it would set her Mum off on one to shake the whole thing loose and sort out her Archie/Grundy problem. Even if it's never mentioned again in the show, I like that there's just that small seed of doubt as to her intentions.

That's too contrived to make any sense. It relies on assumptions and there are variables that could make that plan backfire.
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Originally Posted by Imperial Bishop

That's too contrived to make any sense. It relies on assumptions and there are variables that could make that plan backfire.

Oh, totally. I don't think it would actually work as a plot point that gets dragged into the limelight - I just like it as a tiny potential doubt left hanging in viewers' minds. Nah, she wouldn't. That's crazy manipulative. She's not that psychotic... Right?

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