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Malreyn
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(04-21-2017, 03:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Htown

They just couldn't figure out a way to legitimately turn her into a villain and still have her be a saint the rest of the time. So the powers make her evil, because the other version of her that had powers was evil, even though it doesn't work that way for literally any other character on the show with an evil doppleganger.

That's because with her powers even her heart is.......Cold as Ice

I'll see myself out
Sesha
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(04-21-2017, 03:51 PM)
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Caitlin gives the writers brain freeze.

Originally Posted by morningbus

... Interfering with the timeline, radicalizing a Caitlin, conspiring with a traitorous Wells, how do you plead?

How is this even fair, our lawyer is a Barry.

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Really good one, too. I laughed heartily.
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(04-21-2017, 04:08 PM)
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They should just say that Caitlin is projecting her powers as her darkness, and the only reason she becomes totally diferent is because her darkness is so strong.
Joni
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(04-21-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Htown

They just couldn't figure out a way to legitimately turn her into a villain and still have her be a saint the rest of the time. So the powers make her evil, because the other version of her that had powers was evil, even though it doesn't work that way for literally any other character on the show with an evil doppleganger.

Maybe Earth-2 Barry would be evil as well with powers like Earth-1 Barry.
Jorok Goldblade
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(04-21-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Killer Frost converted her mind to sentient water vapor and entered Caitlin after Zoom killed her. She remained dormant until Caitlin started developing powers, when she had an outlet to take control.

Caitlin will be healed by Cisco Vibe-ing the Earth-2 particles out of her.


Boom. I just did more to explain this than the series has, even if my version is super dumb and silver agey.
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Originally Posted by Jorok Goldblade

Caitlin will be healed by Cisco Viborg the Earth-2 particles out of her.

Vibe-rator
Grizzlyjin
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(04-22-2017, 12:13 AM)
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A lot of the cape shows are wrapping up for the season. Amell is done on Arrow and Candice is all done on The Flash.

https://twitter.com/candicekp/status/855559286709043201

Barry's slow ass better save this woman or I'll riot. I swear.
Jorok Goldblade
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(04-22-2017, 12:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish

Vibe-rator

didn't catch that auto-correct- and no idea why it did it, either.
jwk94
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(04-22-2017, 12:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin

A lot of the cape shows are wrapping up for the season. Amell is done on Arrow and Candice is all done on The Flash.

https://twitter.com/candicekp/status/855559286709043201



Barry's slow ass better save this woman or I'll riot. I swear.

Let her die. Bring back Patty.
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(04-22-2017, 01:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by jwk94

Let her die. Bring back Patty.

Patty can't do shit

Iris is the life
jwk94
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(04-22-2017, 01:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Toa TAK

Patty can't do shit

Iris is the life

Iris is the Karone to Patty's Kendrix. You can't deny this.
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(04-22-2017, 01:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by jwk94

Iris is the Karone to Patty's Kendrix. You can't deny this.

You know what Patty and Kendrix have in common?

Originally Posted by Toa TAK

You know what Patty and Kendrix have in common?

They are former baristas?
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(04-22-2017, 02:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dubbedinenglish

They are former baristas?

I'm a former barista. Does that put me on their level, yet?
jwk94
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(04-22-2017, 02:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Toa TAK

You know what Patty and Kendrix have in common?

Shit, I just realized I mixed that up. Damn, I'll take that L.
ZeroX03
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(04-22-2017, 02:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Toa TAK

Patty can't do shit

Iris is the life

Patty is the hometown
Pics_nao
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(04-22-2017, 03:08 AM)

Originally Posted by ZeroX03

Patty is the hometown

I understood that reference
Tragicomedy
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(04-23-2017, 05:15 PM)
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Almost caught up. The musical episode was a television abomination. The single worst thing I've seen on TV in, say, five years. There wasn't a single authentic note, cheesy as hell lyrics, and it looked like they actually sped up the tap dancing scene or dubbed it strangely.

Moving back to Savitar...don't fail me now.
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Beerman462
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(04-24-2017, 04:08 AM)
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I'm only on S2, but this is the best DC content in a while.
Maximo
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(04-24-2017, 04:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Beerman462

I'm only on S2, but this is the best DC content in a while.

Sadly thats not a high bar.
Mighty Chin
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(04-24-2017, 04:34 AM)
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Someone mentioned Patty?
BLOODED_hands
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(04-24-2017, 04:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mighty Chin

Someone mentioned Patty?

Nope. Nobody mentioned her at all.

Somebody did mention Savitar. Was that who you were talking about?
ZeroX03
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(04-24-2017, 04:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maximo

Sadly thats not a high bar.

Arrow S5, Legends S2, Injustice 2 and a lot of great stuff coming out of Rebirth so I'm calling bullshiiiiiiit
Holmes
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(04-24-2017, 05:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by jwk94

Iris is the Karone to Patty's Kendrix. You can't deny this.

Karone is much better than Kendrix. Gtfo!
Joni
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(04-24-2017, 06:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maximo

Sadly thats not a high bar.

Originally Posted by ZeroX03

Arrow S5, Legends S2, Injustice 2 and a lot of great stuff coming out of Rebirth so I'm calling bullshiiiiiiit

And the amazing iZombie, and maybe even if we personally don't think so, Lucifer and Gotham. People also seemed to like Justice League Dark and Teen Titans: The Judas Contract but I'm not able to judge how good they are. And certainly The Lego Batman Movie. DC seems to be delivering a lot of great stuff.
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(04-24-2017, 06:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mighty Chin

Someone mentioned Patty?

I'm sorry, who?

Originally Posted by Holmes

Karone is much better than Kendrix. Gtfo!

Amen
caliph95
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(04-24-2017, 06:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Maximo

Sadly thats not a high bar.

I would say it's the opposite and S2 is not even close to the best stff
Xenoboy
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(04-24-2017, 07:15 AM)
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S2 gets too much flak, with all the focus being in the dissatisfying Zoom reveal, I feel.
We still had a bunch of awesome moments and episodes and I'd put that season on particular with S1, if it weren't for some Questionable Zoom stuff.
DeathyBoy
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(04-24-2017, 07:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Xenoboy

They should just say that Caitlin is projecting her powers as her darkness, and the only reason she becomes totally diferent is because her darkness is so strong.

Or just say she's got mad PTSD after one boyfriend saved the world and died and the other was evil and died.
caliph95
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(04-24-2017, 07:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by DeathyBoy

Or just say she's got mad PTSD after one boyfriend saved the world and died and the other was evil and died.

Nah it's because E2 was evil and powers makes you evil
Joni
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(04-24-2017, 07:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by Xenoboy

S2 gets too much flak, with all the focus being in the dissatisfying Zoom reveal, I feel.
We still had a bunch of awesome moments and episodes and I'd put that season on particular with S1, if it weren't for some Questionable Zoom stuff.

Zoom is basically a repeat of the Thawne reveal, but making Barry look dumb because he falls for it a second time and only working by lying to the audience. It also told us a lot of stuff instead of showing it and gave us a bad villain delivery system. The highs were high, but the lows were low and frequent.
caliph95
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(04-24-2017, 07:25 AM)
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Season 2 does have this going for it (besides Patty)
Grizzlyjin
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(04-24-2017, 07:39 AM)
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The Zoom reveal was bad. But then they also stretched out that Man in the Iron Mask mystery for too long. None of these DC shows do mysteries very well, honestly. Reverse Flash in Season 1 worked because we already knew Harrison Wells wasn't what he appeared. The big question was what that was. Then you get to drop both reveals on the characters. This Who is Zoom? and Who is Savitar? nonsense is just tired. There isn't an investigation into who they are, just wheel spinning until the last episodes when the villain decides to take off their mask.
caliph95
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(04-24-2017, 07:43 AM)
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TBF I think everybody knew he was RF, it was still compelling and interesting to follow though
Magwik
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(04-24-2017, 07:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by Grizzlyjin

The Zoom reveal was bad. But then they also stretched out that Man in the Iron Mask mystery for too long. None of these DC shows do mysteries very well, honestly. Reverse Flash in Season 1 worked because we already knew Harrison Wells wasn't what he appeared. The big question was what that was. Then you get to drop both reveals on the characters. This Who is Zoom? and Who is Savitar? nonsense is just tired. There isn't an investigation into who they are, just wheel spinning until the last episodes when the villain decides to take off their mask.

Both Flash S2 and S3 have dragged things out extraordinarily long. S1 reveal was e9 for example. Here we are going on e18(?) with not even a hint. Zoom was like e14 or something. Meanwhile Arrow S1+2 reveals were e9, S3 didn't even have a reveal but a climax, S4 was a different approach from the start, and S5 dropped it randomly in an episode while starting the season off with a mini arc thus not putting pressure on the mystery. They tried the same with Flash this season but played up the same old bullshit with Alchemy.
Joni
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(04-24-2017, 07:52 AM)
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Eobard worked on the misdirect: who would have guessed the guy helping the Flash was also the guy trying to kill him, despite knowing there was something wrong he still looked like he was going to help Barry and then they showed them together in the same room. You could compare it to Arrow S5 where we knew Adrian Chase was hiding something and meanwhile we were guessing about who Prometheus could be or Supergirl S1 where we are looking at the 'Hank Henshaw is Cyborg Superman' reveal and then bam, he is actually Green Martian. These misdirect give us just enough information to be suspicious but not enough to have it confirmed. It is only when the reveal happens that we go daaamn. Zoom didn't give me that. Zoom made me think 'Uh, that doesn't make sense. Like why didn't Wells say anything about Teddy not looking like Jay.'
caliph95
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(04-24-2017, 07:55 AM)
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It's worst when Zoom was supposed a famous serial killer in a world where they weren't common even knowing his entire history but didn't even suspect it. Also Caitlin never mentioning he told her he has a counterpart called Hunter Zolomon because that wasn't relevant. The Time remnant stuff didn't help.

I was hoping Savitar's identity wouldn't matter and he was just a guy but alas
ZeroX03
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(04-24-2017, 08:09 AM)
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Prometheus is the Zoom style reveal done right.
Magwik
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(04-24-2017, 05:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZeroX03

Prometheus is the Zoom style reveal done right.

the misdirection with Vigilante was genius
Xenoboy
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(04-24-2017, 05:07 PM)
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Yeah, they shouldn't have made Hunter a famous serial killer, it makes no sense for Harry and Jessie to now recognize him if E2 didn't have many of tho se to begin with. I don't mind them using Hunter, but they should have taken another angle, just have him be obsessed over being so powerful and becoming more by drugging himself up or something.

With the direction they went, they should have at least played up how his parents died really affected him.

And yes, the Vigilante misdirect was awesome.
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(04-24-2017, 05:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by caliph95

Season 2 does have this going for it (besides Patty)



Just wanted to post a gif of Barry getting his ass whooped. Actually, can we start that before tomorrow's episode? People's favorite moment of Barry getting his ass beat in gif/webm form?
GulAtiCa
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(04-24-2017, 05:35 PM)
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Zoom was awesome pre reveal. Barry getting his ass kicked always fun. Savatar sucks, but him kicking Barry's ass always fun.
Magwik
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(04-24-2017, 05:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by ZeroX03

Prometheus is the Zoom style reveal done right.

Also thinking about it again Ollie Going to Slade for help paralels Barry going back to ask Thawne for help
Jorok Goldblade
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(04-24-2017, 07:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by GulAtiCa

Zoom was awesome pre reveal. Barry getting his ass kicked always fun. Savatar sucks, but him kicking Barry's ass always fun.

Zoom got pretty great near the end of the season, too, once they got a handle on his personal brand of crazy. But there was a definitely a dead zone immediately post-reveal. Prometheus leveled up post-reveal without missing a beat.

Originally Posted by Jorok Goldblade

Zoom got pretty great near the end of the season, too, once they got a handle on his personal brand of crazy. But there was a definitely a dead zone immediately post-reveal. Prometheus leveled up post-reveal without missing a beat.

Yeah Zoom's reveal took a lot of wind out of the character and the speed mirage explanation fell flat.

Prometheus's reveal and Chase out in the open made him more scary. Really well done.
kylecoley182
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(04-24-2017, 11:45 PM)
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Zero what did you think of the button part one?
jwk94
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(04-24-2017, 11:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Holmes

Karone is much better than Kendrix. Gtfo!

Man, I'm not even sure how I feel about that.
Poodlestrike
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(04-25-2017, 12:01 AM)
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Don't click on image I have no idea why it's that big but it is.

Feels true tbh.
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(04-25-2017, 12:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by kylecoley182

Zero what did you think of the button part one?

Waiting for it to finish before reading. I'm always behind on comics because I wait for arcs to conclude before reading. I did see the panel of RF getting wrecked which looks fun.
PHOENIXZERO
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(04-25-2017, 04:28 AM)
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So with Barry getting a new suit they're finally going to have it stored in the ring, right?

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