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MrOogieBoogie
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(04-20-2017, 04:06 PM)
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Brb waiting for Malazan anime, as the series wouldn't work any other way.
hey_monkey
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(04-20-2017, 04:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Skilletor

A bit odd that would be a problem and not Rand's harem.

Right? I'm kind of amazed women being snarky was even raised as an issue. like, okay.
studyguy
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(04-20-2017, 04:07 PM)
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So I can expect around 300 seasons slated to end sometime around the time when the sun explodes
JJH
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(04-20-2017, 04:08 PM)
AMC's version of Game of Thrones.
NandoGip
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(04-20-2017, 04:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by JJH

AMC's version of Game of Thrones.

Well we can always end up with something dope like Breaking Bad, but then theres the risk of something super shitty like Walking Dead
Triggerhappytel
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(04-20-2017, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by NandoGip

Read detailed summaries of the next few books and pick up where Sanderson started.

Can you suggest somewhere I could read something like that?
Zelenogorsk
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(04-20-2017, 04:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Myze

I suggest you never read the Book of the Malazan

lol reminds me of when I picked up Gardens of the Moon, looked at the dramatis personae, and put it down.
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(04-20-2017, 04:20 PM)
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Best decision that could be made in regards to Rand's harem is to get him to have flings with all three women but settle on Min. Min is the only one worth a damn anyway.

Elayne and Aviendha should be paired together as a clean an easy way to close the loop without bringing another character.

The bond(s) and pregnancy are the hard parts to meld in without acknowledging the harem.

Originally Posted by MrOogieBoogie

Brb waiting for Malazan anime, as the series wouldn't work any other way.

Fuck, even as an anime it would be waaaaaay to expensive to make with any decent amount of quality.
studyguy
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(04-20-2017, 04:20 PM)
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And to think, this all comes off the back of that one company producing Winter Dragon low key simply to keep the rights and it being so incredibly bad that they instead lost the rights to the show.
Dreamwriter
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(04-20-2017, 04:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by studyguy

And to think, this all comes off the back of that one company producing Winter Dragon low key simply to keep the rights and it being so incredibly bad that they instead lost the rights to the show.

Red Eagle didn't lose the rights, they are still one of the producers of this...but now they have to work with Sony.
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(04-20-2017, 04:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Skilletor

A bit odd that would be a problem and not Rand's harem.

Yeah, seriously. That stuff was eye-rolling of the highest order.
NandoGip
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(04-20-2017, 04:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Can you suggest somewhere I could read something like that?

Shitload of resources:

brief summaries:
http://www.wotsummary.com/

more detailed summaries
https://library.tarvalon.net/index.p...pter_Summaries

even more detailed summaries
http://www.encyclopaedia-wot.org/

I'm sure there are other, just google. At least 10 websites pop up.
Vyrance
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(04-20-2017, 04:48 PM)
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My favorite fantasy series. For this to work though it definitely needs a big budget. Compared to Game of Thrones everything is larger in scale. And like others have said, they'll hopefully be able to trim out of a lot of unnecessary fat. Hopefully it lands at Netflix/Starz/Amazon/HBO/AMC
MrOogieBoogie
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(04-20-2017, 04:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zelenogorsk

lol reminds me of when I picked up Gardens of the Moon, looked at the dramatis personae, and put it down.

Big mistake. Very cool moments in that series.

Also, book two and onwards are SO much better than Gardens of the Moon. I mean on a purely writing and story-telling level. Gardens of the Moon (which I still really enjoyed) is sadly a poor introduction to a really interesting tale.
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(04-20-2017, 04:50 PM)
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For anyone looking for a taste of what could be check out these 2 videos:

Flight from Shadow (Very well produced)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt10nbVSerY

Wheel of Time pilot (Crappy rights grab)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZOCCEuROPk
LordOfChaos
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(04-20-2017, 04:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dreamwriter


True, but the first three books in the series are among my favorite books of all time, and I also really liked the final three books. The TV show however threw away the great characterizations from the first book right from the pilot.

The three last books before or after he started it again?

I remember the original last book had half of it spent in a Longest Yard remake, which really put me off, and then everything was solved with convenient magic that the protagonists didn't even work for.


And that's before he restarted the series recently and spent half of a new book reading a wall.
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(04-20-2017, 04:54 PM)
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Given how well Sony did out of the Outlander series it makes sense that they'd try and snag this too. The question is where are they going to set it up? Does Wheel Of Time have a big enough following like a GOT to really bring people in?

Talking of Outlander I wonder if they will shoot this in Britain, perhaps in the makeshift studio set up they had in Scotland? Hmmmm.
JeffZero
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(04-20-2017, 05:05 PM)
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I'm on the third book right now and loving the heck out of this world. I'm in.
LordOfChaos
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(04-20-2017, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by JeffZero

I'm on the third book right now and loving the heck out of this world. I'm in.

You're in for a ride!
spootime
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(04-20-2017, 05:13 PM)
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Honestly they need to heavily change the plot for this to be successful. Like completely cut out Aviendha, Elayne, Min, the seanchan, etc.
Donos
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(04-20-2017, 05:13 PM)
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Since use of the one power is rather frequent (except maybe for the first Season or so) this is going to cost a lot if they don't want that the "magic" looks like ass/cheap.

Originally Posted by spootime

Honestly they need to heavily change the plot for this to be successful. Like completely cut out Aviendha, Elayne, Min, the seanchan, etc.

Hm, they are probably going to rather tone down all the politics and infighting and build up the Seanchan as an easy to understand "villian" force beside the "dark side" of the Power.

Another problem is to really show Rands (and the girls) internal struggle with the power. Probalbly going to be all "dream" sequences or something.
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Skilletor
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(04-20-2017, 05:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by spootime

Like completely cut out Aviendha.

Fight me, bro.
HStallion
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(04-20-2017, 05:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Busty

Given how well Sony did out of the Outlander series it makes sense that they'd try and snag this too. The question is where are they going to set it up? Does Wheel Of Time have a big enough following like a GOT to really bring people in?

Talking of Outlander I wonder if they will shoot this in Britain, perhaps in the makeshift studio set up they had in Scotland? Hmmmm.

While Game of Thrones was a pretty popular book series it was hardly well know to the general public until after the TV show blew up. I'd expect the same for WoT if Sony can pull off a series and people jump on board.
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(04-20-2017, 05:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by HStallion

While Game of Thrones was a pretty popular book series it was hardly well know to the general public until after the TV show blew up. I'd expect the same for WoT if Sony can pull off a series and people jump on board.


Exactly, a well produced series based on WoT that generates positive buzz will create demand for both the show and the books and increase its overall popularity. You saw it with both The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones. They were already big deals in their respective worlds that exploded in mass popularity as those shows got more publicity. I predict Outlander is going to have a similar explosion in popularity this coming season, so the potential for WoT is strong.
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(04-20-2017, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by HStallion

While Game of Thrones was a pretty popular book series it was hardly well know to the general public until after the TV show blew up. I'd expect the same for WoT if Sony can pull off a series and people jump on board.

ASOIAF/GoT as a whole is not a fast reader (size and complexity) but WoT is two level more of that. Doubt that the books will get that popular. When i think how old i was when i started WoT... lol i was 15 or so. I'm over double that age now and finished the series 2 years ago.
Mister_Bubbles
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Regarding the braid tugging, sniffing, arms-under-breasts-folding, etc - did the author ever talk about why there was SO MUCH repetition of that stuff?
LordOfChaos
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(04-20-2017, 05:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by spootime

Honestly they need to heavily change the plot for this to be successful. Like completely cut out Aviendha, Elayne, Min, the seanchan, etc.


All of the gaggle of Golden Girls adventures, (i.e bowl of the winds), yes.

Best waifu Aviendha? No. Her plot arc with the past and future of the Aiel was awesome.
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(04-20-2017, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordOfChaos

All of the gaggle of Golden Girls adventures, (i.e bowl of the winds), yes.

Best waifu Aviendha? No. Her plot arc with the past and future of the Aiel was awesome.

Originally Posted by Skilletor

Fight me, bro.

I will admit that Aviendha is by far the best of the three girls. But consider this: If Rand eventually gets with Egwene (which I think would be an interesting twist since they are kind of on opposite sides for the latter half) Gawyn has no reason to exist.

Originally Posted by Donos


Another problem is to really show Rands (and the girls) internal struggle with the power. Probalbly going to be all "dream" sequences or something.

Yeah, that will be interesting. I wonder how they will show his dialogues with Lews Therin.
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LordOfChaos
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(04-20-2017, 05:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by spootime

I will admit that Aviendha is by far the best of the three girls. But consider this: If Rand eventually gets with Egwene (which I think would be an interesting twist since they are kind of on opposite sides for the latter half) Gawyn has no reason to exist.

But who Rand gets with wasn't Aviendhas most important trait, it was the fate of the aiel.

The visions of the past and future were one of the peaks in the entire series.
Draven143
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(04-20-2017, 05:41 PM)
So...do they include New Spring in this?
spootime
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(04-20-2017, 05:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordOfChaos

But who Rand gets with wasn't Aviendhas most important trait, it was the fate of the aiel.

The visions of the past and future were one of the peaks in the entire series.

I'd be fine with Aviendha - theres just so much stuff to compress into a tv show I wonder if its even worth going into the past and future of the aiel. Theres a lot of really cool stuff they'll have to cut.
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(04-20-2017, 05:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by spootime

I'd be fine with Aviendha - theres just so much stuff to compress into a tv show I wonder if its even worth going into the past and future of the aiel. Theres a lot of really cool stuff they'll have to cut.

Yeah, they will have to cut a lot. I just don't want it to be Shanara'ed again where the actual peaks of the books are cut out while some shit tier teen drama is put in.
Plenty of cruft to cut out but the high moments make the series.
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(04-20-2017, 05:44 PM)

Originally Posted by HStallion

While Game of Thrones was a pretty popular book series it was hardly well know to the general public until after the TV show blew up. I'd expect the same for WoT if Sony can pull off a series and people jump on board.

i've always been scared off the idea of ever reading this by everyone saying how long and aimless it gets

and I say this as someone that has read a lot of fantasy books over the years and is not opposed to the idea of long books in general
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Originally Posted by spootime

Honestly they need to heavily change the plot for this to be successful. Like completely cut out Aviendha, Elayne, Min, the seanchan, etc.

As dumb as the harem is, there's too much there that's connected to other things that are useful. Likewise, the Seanchan don't really pay off - but it's so tied in with the Forsaken that it would take a lot of plot massaging to remove it entirely.

And if they start making huge changes, we probably end up with something like Dorne in GoT. No thanks. I'm trying to think of huge cuts like this that have gone really well and I'm coming up short. Streamlining a bit but sticking closer to the material has provided some of the best moments in TWD and GoT. Big changes/cutting whole things from the plot has led to some convoluted messes.

Happy to be corrected on this, but while I'm marginally irritated that everyone needed that Rand dick, it's also not the worst plot aspect of the story by far. There are a lot of threads that just didn't really play out.
Hopeford
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(04-20-2017, 05:47 PM)
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Can we reframe the series to be about Mat instead of Rand?
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlanketFire

Honestly at this point I'll believe it when I see it.

Pretty much this. Big fan of the series but I'll start believing when the cameras are rolling.
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Originally Posted by Donos

ASOIAF/GoT as a whole is not a fast reader (size and complexity) but WoT is two level more of that. Doubt that the books will get that popular. When i think how old i was when i started WoT... lol i was 15 or so. I'm over double that age now and finished the series 2 years ago.

I mean, in terms of book sales, GRRM is probably only just catching up to Jordan and that's after 6 seasons of the TV show. The books are pretty popular already.
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(04-20-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hopeford

Can we reframe the series to be about Mat instead of Rand?

While the overall plot revolves around Rand, I never considered the series to be about him. When I explain the series to people, I tell them it's about some village kids forced to leave their isolated village, who end up growing into the big movers and shakers of a world going through its apocalypse.
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I imagine some heavy changes would be needed for the sake of pacing. I also imagine some minor scenes in the books would be given more focus because they'd make for good tv.

Like when Rand executes some of his own people to keep his law. It was a couple paragraphs, if that, but I imagine it would get a very intense scene because ambiguous morality involving executions would make for good television.

Likewise, I expect things like Mat's duel with Couladin to get a huge episode instead of happening offscreen.


Well...in perfect honesty, I think I just don't expect the series to happen or be good if it does, even though I love the books. But I'd love love love to be proven wrong.

Originally Posted by Dreamwriter

While the overall plot revolves around Rand, I never considered the series to be about him. When I explain the series to people, I tell them it's about some village kids forced to leave their isolated village, who end up growing into the big movers and shakers of a world going through its apocalypse.

I agree with you. I was mostly just joking because Mat was by far the greatest thing about the series. Like, his chapters were always way more fun than the other characters'.
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This is sort of inspiring me to make a topic based on my impressions of the books 2.5 volumes into the story. I'm on page, like, 330 or so of TDR.

Maybe I'll do so later tonight. :P
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Originally Posted by Regiruler

Trying to be the next GoT?

There's no wild fucking around..
Wot is in my top ten fantasy sagas..
With name of the Wind getting a Tv series as well, i might actually dog 2018 tv-series landscape!
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I'm down I wonder how they will handle the middle books or what they have to cut to make this work

Originally Posted by MrOogieBoogie

Brb waiting for Malazan anime, as the series wouldn't work any other way.

As someone that just started reading the series(on book 3) I have no idea how you do any tv/movie project

Idris Elba for Quick Ben
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Originally Posted by MrOogieBoogie

Brb waiting for Malazan anime, as the series wouldn't work any other way.

Malazan series would work out incredibly well... But the cost would be gargantuan
Apple Turnover
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About halfway through Crown of Swords myself right now. I'd check this out.
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Originally Posted by slightconfuse

I'm down I wonder how they will handle the middle books or what they have to cut to make this work

One thing to note, when they first revealed this TV show they said the series was specifically about Eye of the World. It may not move on to other books at all.
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Originally Posted by Dreamwriter

One thing to note, when they first revealed this TV show they said the series was specifically about Eye of the World. It may not move on to other books at all.


That...Doesn't seem like a lot of content for a whole TV series. Just season 1 to start with maybe?
4Tran
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(04-20-2017, 06:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Busty

Given how well Sony did out of the Outlander series it makes sense that they'd try and snag this too. The question is where are they going to set it up? Does Wheel Of Time have a big enough following like a GOT to really bring people in?

The Wheel of Time was the big high fantasy series out there, and even a Song of Ice and Fire got a big boost because the writer endorsed it. However, it translates much more poorly to screen so I wouldn't expect the TV show to get anywhere as popular as Game of Thrones.

Originally Posted by LordOfChaos

That...Doesn't seem like a lot of content for a whole TV series. Just season 1 to start with maybe?

I doubt that they'd okay more than 1 season to start with.
Jazzy Geoff
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(04-20-2017, 06:24 PM)
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Is the one with all the s&m stuff in the first book?
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Originally Posted by 4Tran

However, it translates much more poorly to screen so I wouldn't expect the TV show to get anywhere as popular as Game of Thrones.

Why do you think that? Much of the books are scene descriptions, and it's got a lot of action in it. I think it'd translate quite well to TV. Potentially better than Game of Thrones, which is like 90% politics and intrigue.

Originally Posted by Jazzy Geoff

Is the one with all the s&m stuff in the first book?

You're thinking of Sword of Truth.
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I got to like book 8 and never got around to 9 when it came out. I need to do a whole re read

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