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chadskin
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(04-21-2017, 06:05 AM)
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Earlier this month, three bombs detonated near the team bus of Borussia Dortmund (BVB), a German pro soccer team in the Bundesliga, injuring one of their players -- Marc Batra -- seriously. Even though police found three letters near the site of the explosions in which the Islamic State allegedly claimed responsibility, doubts about their authenticity quickly arose for a number of reasons.

Today, police arrested a 28-year old man in Tübingen.

Sergej W was arrested by special operation officers on his way to work at 6am on Friday. On the day of the attack, 11 April, he had bought a put option on Borussia Dortmund’s shares, giving him the right to sell the shares for a specified price at a predetermined date.

Had the explosives killed a member of the team and the club’s share price dropped, the value of his put option - an option to sell assets at an agreed price on or before a particular date - would have increased significantly.

According to German media reports, Sergej W bought 15,000 put warrants for €78,000 (£65,300) and could have gained up to €3.9m as a result of a large drop in Dortmund’s shares.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...e-dealing-plot
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ohyouagain
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(04-21-2017, 06:44 AM)
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I wonder if we have this kind of attacks on a regular basis in other branches of the economy too.
Awful.
Acorn
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(04-21-2017, 06:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by ohyouagain

I wonder if we have this kind of attacks on a regular basis in other branches of the economy too.

As a violent attack, nah. Other ways to trigger stocks falling? Already happens.
Atenhaus
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(04-21-2017, 06:47 AM)
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HMMMMMM....

Wonder why it's all crickets over there right now...
GregLombardi
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(04-21-2017, 06:47 AM)
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I don't want to be a part of the world that we are constructing. Humanity, stop it!
Blablurn
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(04-21-2017, 06:58 AM)
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Thats crazy. What the fuck.
Bronx-Man
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(04-21-2017, 07:01 AM)
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The thought of people attempting to murder each other to affect stocks is some Phillip K. Dick shit.
B-Dubs
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(04-21-2017, 07:02 AM)
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He wanted to WHAT?

The fuck is this world coming to?
skullmuffins
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(04-21-2017, 07:07 AM)
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Shades of that that Florida Man story from 2 months ago where the guy was plotting to bomb some Targets to tank the stock price so he could buy them cheaply and resell when the prices rebounded.... http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/17/us/target-bomb-arrest/
Xater
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(04-21-2017, 07:21 AM)
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This whole thing is super crazy. I hope the sentence of this asshole will be long.
+Aliken+
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(04-21-2017, 07:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Atenhaus



HMMMMMM....

Wonder why it's all crickets over there right now...

Yep, I'm sure people will quickly forget about this now...
KingSnake
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(04-21-2017, 07:31 AM)
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That's insane. I hope the bastard never leaves jail.
Violet_0
(04-21-2017, 07:34 AM)
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one of the letters had islamist content with a rather suspiciously detailed list of demands which is not common at all, one of them was extremist right-wing and third one extremist left-wing

holy shit at this new development
Man with Knife
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(04-21-2017, 07:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by chadskin

Rather than ties to international terrorism, greed is thought to have played a role in the attack. The suspect allegedly bought options to short sell 15,000 shares of Borussia Dortmund stock for 78,000 euros ($83,600), according to "Bild." He would have profited from the transaction if the price for shares of the team fell.

That's crazy as hell and unprecedented in German criminal history (according to SPON)
vonStirlitz
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(04-21-2017, 07:37 AM)
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Its like an episode of Black Mirror.

Dark. Really dark.
waveuponwave
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(04-21-2017, 07:45 AM)
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Apparently he specifically requested a hotel room looking at the street on which the BVB bus would leave the hotel.

Did he really think no one would remember that little detail when a freaking bomb explodes on that spot?

Oh and he bought the stock options using the hotel's IP adress

For a wannabe criminal mastermind all that's pretty stupid

But I guess we'll be seeing more of this now, assholes trying to capizalize on the public's fear of terrorism
Derwind
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(04-21-2017, 07:50 AM)
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It's extremely sad knowing how many people really wanted the case to be linked to evil brown people.

When it turns out to be something that doesn't fit that narrative everyone disappears.
Lautaro
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(04-21-2017, 07:53 AM)
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Oh man, this reminds me of that Florida man that wanted to blow up some target stores to do something similar.
Qvoth
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(04-21-2017, 07:56 AM)
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this is some crazy shit
MightBeMagic
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(04-21-2017, 07:57 AM)
This is basically an exact copy of a mission in GTA 5 looool
Spectone
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(04-21-2017, 08:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by vonStirlitz

Its like an episode of Black Mirror.

Dark. Really dark.

Was used in the film "Casino Royale"
redmetal86
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(04-21-2017, 08:04 AM)
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Reminds me of Casino Royale, except with a bus and sports team instead of a plane and an aerospace company.
^Aaaah beaten.
Donos
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(04-21-2017, 08:18 AM)
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Going to be interesting how he got the explosives. Somewhere they said these where fron the German army. Guy is 28...probably was enlisted and got it there or over connections there.
Gandie
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(04-21-2017, 08:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Donos

Going to be interesting how he got the explosives. Somewhere they said these where fron the German army. Guy is 28...probably was enlisted and got it there or over connections there.

That information was never confirmed.
bone_and_sinew
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(04-21-2017, 08:30 AM)
Did he work for Bayern Munich?
Man with Knife
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(04-21-2017, 08:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by MightBeMagic

This is basically an exact copy of a mission in GTA 5 looool

That's it...Grand Zeft Auto 5 BESCHLAGNAHMT !!
Donos
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(04-21-2017, 08:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gandie

That information was never confirmed.

I know, they still withheld a lot of informations though (to not risk the investigations). We will see.
jWILL253
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(04-21-2017, 08:39 AM)
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Haly
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(04-21-2017, 08:44 AM)
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The disgusting part of this is that he tried to use the current migrant crisis to mask his bombing, and had he not been found out it would've just thrown fuel on the fire.
Vuze
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(04-21-2017, 09:04 AM)

Originally Posted by jWILL253

Don't give German media ideas lol. We don't want to go back to blaming video games for crimes now that the focus is on anime after the cold blooded stabbings of that weirdo who bragged on 4chan.

Truly disgusting act indeed. And he accepted killing multiple people and ruining their families lives for a few thousand bucks? Dude must've been pretty damn desperate.
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Tempy
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(04-21-2017, 09:09 AM)
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Well, that's quite the twist! Would love to see a dramatization/documentary of the investigation.
His Majesty
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(04-21-2017, 09:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Derwind

It's extremely sad knowing how many people really wanted the case to be linked to evil brown people.

When it turns out to be something that doesn't fit that narrative everyone disappears.

First is were muslims and the right jumped on the story, then it was the far-right and the left jumped on the story and now it's a fucking idiot and indeed, everyone is gone.

People really should stop jumping to foregone conclusions.
Steiner84
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(04-21-2017, 09:13 AM)
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attempted multiple murders for not even 100k? wtf...
Imp the Dimp
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(04-21-2017, 09:14 AM)
This is one of the most cold-blooded things I've seen in a while.
Sidewinder
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(04-21-2017, 09:16 AM)
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My first thought when I heard about the bombing was: "Probably some crazy Hooligan" but in reality it's even crazier and that guy actually wanted to kill as many as possible, may he rest in prison for the rest of his shitty life.
Dinda
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(04-21-2017, 09:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Steiner84

attempted multiple murders for not even 100k? wtf...

No, the options he bought cost him that, if the stock would have fallen dramatically, which it would have if multiple members of the team had died, he could have gained something like 4 million according to german press.
Devil
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(04-21-2017, 09:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Steiner84

attempted multiple murders for not even 100k? wtf...

Spiegel says he would have made millions.
Machina
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(04-21-2017, 09:34 AM)
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Do we call this domestic terrorism or economic terrorism?
Simply Sami
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(04-21-2017, 09:43 AM)
Oh I thought it had something to do with those Muslamic ray guns not a cold heartless Russian looking to make 4 million.
cyba89
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(04-21-2017, 09:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by Spiegel.de

Nach SPIEGEL-Informationen hatte der Verdächtige einen Verbraucherkredit aufgenommen und 15.000 Optionsscheine gekauft. Dazu nutzte er nach Erkenntnissen der Ermittler die IP-Adresse des BVB-Mannschaftshotels L'Arrivée, in dem er sich kurz vor dem Anschlag aufgehalten hatte. Bei der Buchung des Zimmers im März soll der Beschuldigte einen Raum mit Blick auf den späteren Anschlagsort verlangt haben, womöglich löste er von dort über Funk die Detonation der drei Sprengsätze aus.

Buying 15.000 options from the IP adress of the hotel shortly before the attack happenend sure doesn't make him look suspicious at all. He even specificially requested a room with a view to where the bus would be.

Not the brightest guy.
Kill Your Masters
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(04-21-2017, 09:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Machina

Do we call this domestic terrorism or economic terrorism?

Mental disorder.
Oersted
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(04-21-2017, 09:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by His Majesty

First is were muslims and the right jumped on the story, then it was the far-right and the left jumped on the story and now it's a fucking idiot and indeed, everyone is gone.

People really should stop jumping to foregone conclusions.

It was Isis and the left first.
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(04-21-2017, 09:56 AM)
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What a motherfucker. I wonder how the police narrowed him down. Must have been sloppy. Also, 15,000 shares? Even if they completely tanked, it doesn't seem like he was going to make much. Certainly not anything worth trying to kill two dozen people for? Shit plan, shit motive, fucking loser of a person. Disgusting.
Xando
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(04-21-2017, 10:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

What a motherfucker. I wonder how the police narrowed him down.

Idiot bought shares from the hotel where the bombs exploded and got flagged for money laundering.

He would have gotten 3.2 million euro if he had succeeded.
EloKa
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(04-21-2017, 10:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

I wonder how the police narrowed him down.

- there was one hotel guest that demanded to a get a room that gave view to the street where the bus was supposed to travel along. He demanded this room for 2 different dates (because no-one knew in advance if the match happens in dortmund or monaco first).

- there was one significant order at the stock exchange which drew the attention of the authorities.

- this order was made few minutes / hours before the bombinb with an IP that belongs to the hotel.


afaik the starting point was the very unusual placed stock exchange order
chromatic9
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(04-21-2017, 10:06 AM)
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If the short was leveraged in some form of spread betting or option trading then it would've made a ton of money.
Donos
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(04-21-2017, 10:06 AM)
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Auf die Spur hatten sie ein Hinweisgeber aus dem Finanzsektor sowie die Geldwäscheverdachtsanzeige einer Bank gebracht.

Bank made a money laundering report + and a financial sector tip, probably because the shares were bought so close to the incident. (beaten by Xando / Eloka)

They already had him under obvservation for a week.
Django.Mango
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(04-21-2017, 10:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Atenhaus



HMMMMMM....

Wonder why it's all crickets over there right now...

Disgusting.

If the stock-bombing-story is true, the players had luck it was an amateur.

edit, good ivestigations work too.
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Django.Mango
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(04-21-2017, 10:12 AM)

Originally Posted by duckroll

What a motherfucker. I wonder how the police narrowed him down. Must have been sloppy. Also, 15,000 shares? Even if they completely tanked, it doesn't seem like he was going to make much. Certainly not anything worth trying to kill two dozen people for? Shit plan, shit motive, fucking loser of a person. Disgusting.

They are talking about 4 Millions of euros.
El-Suave
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(04-21-2017, 10:15 AM)
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That's a pretty dumb plan, ever since the betting scandals police surely watch who has sudden and enormous financial gains from the aftermath of such an attack. I would imagine that to be easily traceable. It does remind me of one of those Bond supervillain plans from decades old movies.

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