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kswiston
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(08-06-2017, 06:05 PM)
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This weekend, the Despicable Me franchise (Minions included) passed Shrek to become the highest grossing animated franchise of all time, at $3.55B. Shrek is still ahead domestically.

Runners up are Ice Age at $3.22B and Madagascar at $2.26B.
FTF
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Originally Posted by Fudgepuppy

Holy shit, will War even manage to make half of what Dawn did?

Movie was uncompromising. Really good, but not the kind of movie you tell your friends to go and watch. It's a more solemn experience.

It's a damn shame War dropped so much from Dawn. It's a really good movie but just a terrible release date and mis-marketed.
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Originally Posted by kswiston

Worldwide updates

Despicable Me 3 - $879M (now the top gross of the summer)
Wonder Woman - $794M
Pirates 5 - $781M
Spider-Man Homecoming - $671M
Transformers 5 - $583M
Dunkirk - $314M
Cars 3 - $286M
War for the Planet of the Apes - $278M
Baby Driver - $155M

Also from the last thread, Wolf Warrior 2 has now grossed $469M in China after a second weekend of $162M (giving it the largest second weekend in a single territory). Domestically the film has made $1M in two weekends.

2017 is going to have the least $1B films in how many years?
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(08-06-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Damn man. Poor Planet of the Apes. They made a great movie, but it was certainly not your standard action movie blockbuster.

Really should not have called it 'War'.
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(08-06-2017, 06:07 PM)
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If the Emoji Movie can make it's money back you have no excuse to not chase your dreams.
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(08-06-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

Dunkirk - $314M

Slayven
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(08-06-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Man Atomic Blonde fell off cliff


Originally Posted by Bronx-Man

Well, summer movie season is officially over. I'll see you cats in October when Blade Runner 2049 opens to 96% RT and $60 million opening weekend domestic.

In what universe?
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(08-06-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by BumRush

2017 is going to have the least $1B films in how many years?

I believe since 2014.
Montresor
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(08-06-2017, 06:10 PM)
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I'm disappointed Detroit did so badly. I watched it on Friday and my and my three buddies thought it was excellent.
kswiston
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Good chance Homecoming breaks 850M?

It depends on China, but I think it will get there. Just the remaining domestic take will get Homecoming to around $700M. Add in overseas holdovers, plus China and Japan.
Bobby Roberts
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(08-06-2017, 06:12 PM)
I don't know that Blade Runner will hit $60mil opening weekend, but it's a fucking guarantee it'll make more in its opening weekend (maybe even just Fri-Sat) than the original did for its entire run.
Fancyarcher
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(08-06-2017, 06:13 PM)
Meh weekend it seems. Dark Tower was #1, but if it wasn't for the low-budget it would basically be a dud, at least Dunkirk had a great drop though.

Originally Posted by Bronx-Man

Well, summer movie season is officially over. I'll see you cats in October when Blade Runner 2049 opens to 96% RT and $60 million opening weekend domestic.

I wish. It seems too niche right now sadly.
FTF
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(08-06-2017, 06:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

I don't know that Blade Runner will hit $60mil opening weekend, but it's a fucking guarantee it'll make more in its opening weekend (maybe even just Fri-Sat) than the original did for its entire run.

Yeah, $32m ow should happen.

Edit: or $27m...seems it had a re-release.
ElBoxyBrown
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(08-06-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bronx-Man

Well, summer movie season is officially over. I'll see you cats in October when Blade Runner 2049 opens to 96% RT and $60 million opening weekend domestic.

You don't want to join us when It makes bank and Bill Skarsgard is up for an Oscar?
3N16MA
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(08-06-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

I don't know that Blade Runner will hit $60mil opening weekend, but it's a fucking guarantee it'll make more in its opening weekend (maybe even just Fri-Sat) than the original did for its entire run.

Including re-issue and final cut?
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(08-06-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Dat Atomic Bomba!
Chamber
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(08-06-2017, 06:15 PM)
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasonal/

Summer's basically over, I think we can say it sucked at the box office this year.
FTF
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(08-06-2017, 06:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chamber

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasonal/

Summer's basically over, I think we can say it sucked at the box office this year.

Wow yeah worst summer in 17 years.
sense
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(08-06-2017, 06:17 PM)
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I guess the mandate at Sony is keep the budget low and aim for surprise hits or atleast make your money back. Hope they execute better with the quality side of things in the future.
kswiston
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(08-06-2017, 06:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by 3N16MA

I believe since 2014.

Maybe not. 2 films are over $1B currently. The Last Jedi is locked to hit that number.

Despicable Me 3 is going to get really close. I think it will have to settle for a gross around where DM2 landed, but $1B isn't completely dead yet.

I know that people like to laugh at Justice League, but I think it has an outside shot at $1B+. We'll see where its public reception ends up.

Hell, if Wolf Warrior 2 doesn't slow down, it could end up breaking $1B. It would have to fare better than most Chinese movies overseas to hit that mark though. Say 10% foreign gross instead of 1-2%.

Even if 2017 has to settle for just 3 films over the $1B mark, at least all of those films will be well over $1B. Three of the four in 2016 squeaked by that milestone.
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DarkLordMalik
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(08-06-2017, 06:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chamber

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasonal/

Summer's basically over, I think we can say it sucked at the box office this year.

Wow, not only the box office gross dropped, even the amount of movies are down quite a bit.
Bobby Roberts
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(08-06-2017, 06:19 PM)

Originally Posted by 3N16MA

Including re-issue and final cut?

Yup. It'll clear $35mil OW, I'm pretty sure.

It's not a huge brand, but Blade Runner has become very recognized/recognizable in the last 30 years. WB is gonna push it like an important prestige picture while also positioning it as some sort of action flick (which was part of why the original got backlash back in 82 - they thought they were getting a different kind of Harrison Ford flick).

But considering they just successfully executed that approach with Nolan's Dunkirk (and the production is moving the music team from that film over to Blade Runner, too), I think a box-office around 40-50 OW is pretty feasible.

If they really put the hammer down on the marketing in the weeks before its release, they could possibly get up to $60mil.

But then you're looking at another situation where audiences are asked to watch one kind of movie and sit down for 2 hours of Denis Villeneuve doing whatever the fuck he wants in the Blade Runner sandbox.

Then again - people generally liked Arrival. So who knows!
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(08-06-2017, 06:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

Dat Atomic Bomba!

Youuuuu
kswiston
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(08-06-2017, 06:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by FTF

Wow yeah worst summer in 17 years.

You have to click on calendar grosses at box office mojo, or it just gives you the total for every film released during the summer window, even if some of those made all of their money in September.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasona...argross&p=.htm

2017 still looks bad, but there's a full month left before summer is done.
DarkLordMalik
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(08-06-2017, 06:25 PM)
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Arrival opened to around 24 million so the marketing didn't really do its job in getting the movie to open higher. I have no idea how people are seeing Blade Runner achieving $60m since there is next to no chance it can get close to that number. Even a series like Mission Impossible which has a solid fanbase didn't open to $60 million and the action elements of Blade Runner, atleast from the trailer, are hardly exciting. It tries to sell the movie through its visuals which are gorgeous but so was Ghost in the Shell and we all know how it turned out.

IMO, Blade Runner should open somewhere between 20 to 30 million but the rest of its box office depends on word of mouth. It can pass $100 million at the end of the day but I don't think it has a shot at $150 million.
Heshinsi
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(08-06-2017, 06:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by kswiston

Worldwide updates

Despicable Me 3 - $879M (now the top gross of the summer)
Wonder Woman - $794M
Pirates 5 - $781M
Spider-Man Homecoming - $671M
Transformers 5 - $583M
Dunkirk - $314M
Cars 3 - $286M
War for the Planet of the Apes - $278M
Baby Driver - $155M

Also from the last thread, Wolf Warrior 2 has now grossed $469M in China after a second weekend of $162M (giving it the largest second weekend in a single territory). Domestically the film has made $1M in two weekends.

Spidey hasn't opened in China yet right?
ElBoxyBrown
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(08-06-2017, 06:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by FTF

Wow yeah worst summer in 17 years.

There was barely any good quality kids movies this summer, much less movies to take the whole family to see.

When the best reviewed summer animated movie is a low budget Captain Underpants movie, your kinda in trouble.
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GhaleonEB
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(08-06-2017, 06:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Thequietone

Is the Dark Tower that bad? My wife and I were interested in seeing it.

The first 20 minutes are a mess, but honestly, after that it's a pretty good film. Some smarter editing choices early and a few braver story telling choices would have done a lot to improve how it sits with critics, IMO. It's not a terrible movie. Elba is fantastic.

Edit: Baby Driver is at $155m WW, will hit $100m DOM, on a $34m budget. Pretty big hit, Wright has gotta feel great about it.
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(08-06-2017, 06:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by DarkLordMalik

Arrival opened to around 24 million so the marketing didn't really do its job in getting the movie to open higher. I have no idea how people are seeing Blade Runner achieving $60m since there is next to no chance it can get close to that number. Even a series like Mission Impossible which has a solid fanbase didn't open to $60 million and the action elements of Blade Runner, atleast from the trailer, are hardly exciting. It tries to sell the movie through its visuals which are gorgeous but so was Ghost in the Shell and we all know how it turned out.

IMO, Blade Runner should open somewhere between 20 to 30 million but the rest of its box office depends on word of mouth. It can pass $100 million at the end of the day but I don't think it has a shot at $150 million.

Gosling bump, mi amigo
spelen
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(08-06-2017, 06:32 PM)
This years summer box office makes me sad. How does war of the planet of the apes not cross 300 million?
Phamit
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(08-06-2017, 06:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Heshinsi

Spidey hasn't opened in China yet right?

Japan and China are still due
Bobby Roberts
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(08-06-2017, 06:33 PM)

Originally Posted by DarkLordMalik

Arrival opened to around 24 million so the marketing didn't really do its job in getting the movie to open higher. I have no idea how people are seeing Blade Runner achieving $60m since there is next to no chance it can get close to that number. Even a series like Mission Impossible which has a solid fanbase didn't open to $60 million and the action elements of Blade Runner, atleast from the trailer, are hardly exciting. It tries to sell the movie through its visuals which are gorgeous but so was Ghost in the Shell and we all know how it turned out.

IMO, Blade Runner should open somewhere between 20 to 30 million but the rest of its box office depends on word of mouth. It can pass $100 million at the end of the day but I don't think it has a shot at $150 million.

Arrival is a very different movie than Blade Runner (and is being sold differently), and reaction to Arrival was very positive after-the-fact. It didnt' open strong, but I'm arguing that Arrival's final reception might lay the groundwork for larger reciepts this time out when Villeneuve's name is paired with a recognizable "brand" like Blade Runner, such as it is. I don't know why, of all the comparison points, you picked Mission Impossible, either.

I think calling 2049 to open between 20-30mil OW is pretty lowball.
Lima
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(08-06-2017, 06:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bronx-Man

Gosling bump, mi amigo

You mean Bronson bump.
DarkLordMalik
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(08-06-2017, 06:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bronx-Man

Gosling bump, mi amigo

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Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

Arrival is a very different movie than Blade Runner (and is being sold differently), and reaction to Arrival was very positive after-the-fact. It didnt' open strong, but I'm arguing that Arrival's final reception might lay the groundwork for larger reciepts this time out when Villeneuve's name is paired with a recognizable "brand" like Blade Runner, such as it is. I don't know why, of all the comparison points, you picked Mission Impossible, either.

I think calling 2049 to open between 20-30mil OW is pretty lowball.

I only used Mission Impossible as an example to talk about a movie being sold based on its action. You said in your post that Warner Bros. might try to push it as an action flick, I simply said that even if we talk about one of the most popular action franchise, it hasn't had a domestic opening of $60 million.

I just think a Science Fiction Noir film is a hard sell and Blade Runner is being released so many years after the original that I doubt nostalgia will drive any box office gross. The name isn't relevant as say Star Wars. It is a pretty niche movie that reached critical acclaim but it is still a niche and I just don't see it suddenly making it big at box office.

Mad Max Fury Road exploded at the box office because it was an adrenaline filled ride from start to end with a very well liked cast of characters. I am listing this as an example to talk about a franchise which was relevant in the past and then brought back to critical and commercial success. Unless there is something in Blade Runner 2049 aside from Villeneuve, I don't think it is guaranteed to achieve success.
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(08-06-2017, 06:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bronx-Man

Gosling bump, mi amigo

Hotman Bodyguard and Deadpool 2 are locked and loaded. He is grinding
Anth0ny
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(08-06-2017, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chamber

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasonal/

Summer's basically over, I think we can say it sucked at the box office this year.

Wow, that list is pretty crazy.

The 3 great superhero movies at the top holding it down, followed by a bunch of SHIT with dunkirk and apes sprinkled in there as well.

Dunkirk might reach #5 by the end of its run.
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(08-06-2017, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Arc

I cannot believe Sony is going to make money on Emoji. Unbelievable.

Is it opening overseas at some point? Not that it is doing bad, but it's not doing anything great here in the US either.
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(08-06-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Saw The Dark Tower. Certainly wasn't awful, just meh with some good moments. Made me want to check out the books though.
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(08-06-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Phamit

Japan and China are still due

Thanks. So it is locked for over $800M it seems.
DarkLordMalik
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(08-06-2017, 06:44 PM)
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Ryan Gosling bump is fake. The dude has yet to make a movie open to $20 million in domestic box office.
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Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

Arrival is a very different movie than Blade Runner (and is being sold differently), and reaction to Arrival was very positive after-the-fact. It didnt' open strong, but I'm arguing that Arrival's final reception might lay the groundwork for larger reciepts this time out when Villeneuve's name is paired with a recognizable "brand" like Blade Runner, such as it is. I don't know why, of all the comparison points, you picked Mission Impossible, either.

I think calling 2049 to open between 20-30mil OW is pretty lowball.

Prisoners and Sicario sold me on his work basically forever. Arrival was good, and I have hope for BR.
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kswiston
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After we had that 73% second Friday drop doom and gloom thread for Homecoming, I started tracking opening weekend multipliers for all recent comic films through their second and third weekends of release (10 and 17 days of release). I skipped last week, but figured that it would be worth checking in to see how Spider-man compares to its contemporaries after weekend #5.

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TITLE				5th Weekend Drop	31-day OW Multiplier
Deadpool			35%			2.48x
Batman v Superman		39%			1.92x
Civil War			49%^			2.17x
X-Men Apocalypse		53%			2.30x
Suicide Squad			19%*			2.22x
Doctor Strange			51%^			2.53x
Logan				41%			2.40x
Guardians of the Galaxy 2	53%^			2.43x
Wonder Woman 			37%			3.35x
Spider-Man Homecoming		34%			2.52x

^weekend after a holiday
*Holiday weekend
Actual 5th weekend drops are all over the place as some films hit holiday weekends while others are seeing post-holiday dips. However, I think that the OW multiplier column gives an impression of what is typical. Wonder Woman's legs mop the floor with everything, but Spider-Man remains on the high end of the opening weekend multiplier scale. I think that it will eventually end above Doctor Strange as well. Disney packed things in pretty quickly for Strange by late December.
Bobby Roberts
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(08-06-2017, 06:47 PM)

Originally Posted by DarkLordMalik

Unless there is something in Blade Runner 2049 aside from Villeneuve, I don't think it is guaranteed to achieve success.

I don't think it's guaranteed anything other than 35mil OW. That's not necessarily a huge success. But I think north of 35 is a safe call.
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(08-06-2017, 06:49 PM)
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I guess some films are just critic-proof, made for and marketed towards a particular section of the audience that doesn't care for a score stamped infront of it. Emoji falls in that category. Suicide Squad was another.

Sucks for Apes. I quite liked it, but it was obvious it wouldn't make a whole lot as it's not a conventional blockbuster by any means.
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Dat Atomic Bomba!

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Anth0ny
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Originally Posted by BumRush

2017 is going to have the least $1B films in how many years?

2014 was just Transformers I think.

Star Wars is looking like the only other $1 billion film this year unless Justice League pulls off a miracle.
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(08-06-2017, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

I don't think it's guaranteed anything other than 35mil OW. That's not necessarily a huge success. But I think north of 35 is a safe call.

I mean if it doesn't even open to $35 million, then it should be a bad sign for Warner Bros. It seems rather expensive and I think the budget is around $150 million.

I am still sticking with my expectations of between $20 to $30 million.
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(08-06-2017, 06:54 PM)
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Emoji looks like it is heading towards $80-90M domestic. That's respectable off of a $50M budget, but nothing special.

SPA remains a third tier animation studio.
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I think The Dark Tower is what you need to be looking for with Blade Runner.

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