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AndyVirus
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(08-12-2017, 07:39 PM)
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He doesn't like sand.
hydrophilic attack
(08-12-2017, 07:39 PM)
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he looks fucking dumb and can't even breathe properly
Loris146
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(08-12-2017, 07:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Selddon

Please stop. This is awful.



GOAT.
Erv
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I cant be the only one who thinks his suit is kind of ugly. Shit looks bulky and dumb
Ninhead
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Originally Posted by Stead Fast

Also when I think 'cool', it's not so much in line with 'badass' as it is being threatening, powerful (within reason for the story), seemingly untouchable for a time, darkly funny, and in control. Often, for me, this comes to mind:

Winner.
Mister Saturn
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Originally Posted by Stead Fast

Also when I think 'cool', it's not so much in line with 'badass' as it is being threatening, powerful (within reason for the story), seemingly untouchable for a time, darkly funny, and in control. Often, for me, this comes to mind:

Yeah, Gruber is an awesome choice. One of my favorite villains not from sci-fi. For me, another along those same aspects of "cool" would be Frank in "Once Upon A Time In The West," though maybe not really "darkly funny". Guy knows he is ice cold dangerous and you know it too from first glance.
Garjon
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(08-12-2017, 07:42 PM)
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He basically fails all of his mission objectives in the original trilogy. All he actually does is force choke a load of arrogant commanders.

EDIT: I will add that he looks boss but other than that?
Harmen
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(08-12-2017, 07:44 PM)
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He was Anakin Skywalker and became Anakin Skywalker once again.
Alexander DeLarge
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(08-12-2017, 07:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Farsi

Hey boss

That was only like a couple days before ANH right? I want to see him on a mission immediately after the transformation and he's super pissed off (since the dark side thrives on hatred). Like twenty years before ANH.
jesu
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(08-12-2017, 07:45 PM)
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Because Darth Jar Jar is....


mas8705
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(08-12-2017, 07:47 PM)
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Honestly you could take your pick from the prequels and go from there. Honestly though after Rogue One, it only helped to solidify that Vader is one of the best villains out there.
RedShift
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(08-12-2017, 07:48 PM)
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Because they turned him into whiny space Jesus.
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(08-12-2017, 07:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alexander DeLarge

That was only like a couple days before ANH right? I want to see him on a mission immediately after the transformation and he's super pissed off (since the dark side thrives on hatred). Like twenty years before ANH.

Actually it was literally minutes before ANH.
DrForester
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(08-12-2017, 07:52 PM)
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Because it turned out he was a whinny emo-teen.
Proteus
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(08-12-2017, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by DrForester

Because it turned out he was a whinny emo-teen.

And he has a whinny emo-grandson.
Sir_Crocodile
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(08-12-2017, 07:53 PM)
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because skeletor was better.
Roders5
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(08-12-2017, 07:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Proteus

And he has a whinny emo-grandson.

Played by someone who can actually act it well though
firelogic
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(08-12-2017, 07:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alexander DeLarge

That was only like a couple days before ANH right? I want to see him on a mission immediately after the transformation and he's super pissed off (since the dark side thrives on hatred). Like twenty years before ANH.

I want to see a rated R Vader movie but of course that'll never happen. Not R for swearing or nudity but for the violence. A pissed off Vader wrecking planets full of fleshy beings with his force powers and a lightsaber. I want to see the carnage.

It'd be nice if Disney took some more risks with the side stories and stick to their formula for the mainline movies but again, that'll never happen.
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(08-12-2017, 07:58 PM)
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Dr. Doom is far better.
Two Words
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(08-12-2017, 08:01 PM)
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He doesn't respect the high ground.
Kain
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(08-12-2017, 08:02 PM)
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Because Aizen exists. Everything was part of his plan. Every. Thing. He's the king.
Sub Boss
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(08-12-2017, 08:02 PM)
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I think The Emperor is better
brawly
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(08-12-2017, 08:03 PM)
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Because he fights as if he has a cuccumber stuck in his ass

I Wanna Be The Guy
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(08-12-2017, 08:04 PM)
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I would just like to pop in to this thread to give a shout out to Anubis from Stargate SG1. One of the most underappreciated villains ever.
Sub Boss
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(08-12-2017, 08:04 PM)
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Also he has no dad
jelly
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(08-12-2017, 08:04 PM)
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He was pretty badass at the end of Rogue One but they messed up the costume and he was rather lame beside wrecking people.

Why isn't he cool, a lapdog who constantly fails when he is suppose to be the most powerful?
BladeoftheImmortal
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(08-12-2017, 08:05 PM)
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He was defeated by high ground.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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(08-12-2017, 08:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by BladeoftheImmortal

He was defeated by high ground.

He was defeated by his arrogance.
jond76
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(08-12-2017, 08:09 PM)
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Praetorpwj
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(08-12-2017, 08:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Slayven

Cause he was hilariously ineffectual at his job, and when all said and done just a henchman

This. Darth Vader is a complete dumbass. Leaving aside the whole 'Death Star Plans' fiasco:

Completely and obviously manipulated by the Palpatine into betraying the Jedi.

Being an arrogant tool and getting his arse handed to him by Kenobi by failing to understand basic battle tactics.

Fails to identify Leia as force sensitive in captivity.

Tactically incompetent (blames and kills Ozzel for being 'too close to the system' at Hoth and alerting the rebels when they had already been alerted by the probe droid that was known to have been destroyed. Vader's tactics would have just given the rebels more time to evacuate).

Destroys part of the Imperial Navy by pointlessly entering the asteroid field.

Lets Luke slip away at Bespin.

Never assumes that Luke/Leia will try to retrieve Han from Jabba.

Allows the rebels to penetrate the shield on Endor before understanding Palpatine's plans.

Cannot see that Palpatine intends to replace him with Luke.
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jelly
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(08-12-2017, 08:11 PM)
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He didn't kill JarJar.

He choose an old bloke over Padme.
Slayven
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(08-12-2017, 08:14 PM)
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Best villain

No bullshit take over or destroy the world nonsense. He just wants the Flash to be the best superhero he can be
I Wanna Be The Guy
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(08-12-2017, 08:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Praetorpwj

This. Darth Vader is a complete dumbass. Leaving aside the whole 'Death Star Plans' fiasco:

Completely and obviously manipulated by the Palpatine into betraying the Jedi.

Being an arrogant tool and getting his arse handed to him by Kenobi by failing to understand basic battle tactics.

Fails to identify Leia as force sensitive in captivity.

Tactically incompetent (blames and kills Ozzel for being 'too close to the system' at Hoth and alerting the rebels when they had already been alerted by the probe droid that was known to have been destroyed. Vader's tactics would have just given the rebels more time to evacuate).

Destroys part of the Imperial Navy by pointlessly entering the asteroid field.

Lets Luke slip away at Bespin.

Never assumes that Luke/Leia will try to retrieve Han from Jabba.

Allows the rebels to penetrate the shield on Endor before understanding Palpatine's plans.

Cannot see that Palpatine intends to replace him with Luke.

Yeah but he can choke pwople through the tv screen.
sarcastor
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(08-12-2017, 08:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Praetorpwj

This. Darth Vader is a complete dumbass:

You forgot the part where he hunted down and systematically killed the remaining jedis after palpatine took over

His comic book series shows more of his bad ass adventures. Unfortunately he was kinda stupid in the trilogy. Kinda like Boba Fett
DeathyBoy
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(08-12-2017, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by jond76

GOAT

God of puns. Master of dreams. Conquered power Glove. So Omega he can come back to life if a dog pisses on his ashes. And a true ladykiller.
Bucket Mouse
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(08-12-2017, 08:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bronx-Man

He is, but from another point of view he's just a henchman that nerds got super obsessed with.

You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
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(08-12-2017, 08:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bucket Mouse

You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

What you said is true...

... from a certain perspective.
jelly
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(08-12-2017, 08:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by sarcastor

You forgot the part where he hunted down and systematically killed the remaining jedis after palpatine took over

His comic book series shows more of his bad ass adventures. Unfortunately he was kinda stupid in the trilogy. Kinda like Boba Fett

Didn't order 66 do that and they went down like chumps anyway.
Etrian Oddity
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(08-12-2017, 08:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Loris146

Please stop. This is awful.



GOAT.

It doesn't matter whether you like it or not.

Anakin Skywalker in the pre-trilogy is just as much Darth Vader as what we see in the OT. dealwithit.gif
Carl2291
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(08-12-2017, 08:25 PM)
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Recent villains?

jett
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Originally Posted by Praetorpwj

This. Darth Vader is a complete dumbass. Leaving aside the whole 'Death Star Plans' fiasco:

Completely and obviously manipulated by the Palpatine into betraying the Jedi.

Being an arrogant tool and getting his arse handed to him by Kenobi by failing to understand basic battle tactics.

Fails to identify Leia as force sensitive in captivity.

Tactically incompetent (blames and kills Ozzel for being 'too close to the system' at Hoth and alerting the rebels when they had already been alerted by the probe droid that was known to have been destroyed. Vader's tactics would have just given the rebels more time to evacuate).

Destroys part of the Imperial Navy by pointlessly entering the asteroid field.

Lets Luke slip away at Bespin.

Never assumes that Luke/Leia will try to retrieve Han from Jabba.

Allows the rebels to penetrate the shield on Endor before understanding Palpatine's plans.

Cannot see that Palpatine intends to replace him with Luke.

Let's post some better movie villains than this useless moran.













Vader is kinda crap compared to any of these.
MMarston
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(08-12-2017, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alexander DeLarge

That was only like a couple days before ANH right? I want to see him on a mission immediately after the transformation and he's super pissed off (since the dark side thrives on hatred). Like twenty years before ANH.

Check out the Darth Vader 2017 comic by Marvel. Just started.


Originally Posted by jett


Vader is kinda crap compared to any of these.

What I would give to have a Vader origin story akin to Michael Corleone.
Last edited by MMarston; 08-12-2017 at 08:29 PM.
Crossing Eden
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(08-12-2017, 08:28 PM)
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Just like Anakin retroactively made Darth Vader a bit lame, the CW retroactively made Anakin really good.
tonysidaway
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(08-12-2017, 08:28 PM)
Why isn't Darth Vader the coolest villain ever?

One word.

Missy.
Vic_Viper
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VZj-85E5o

Think this discussion answers the Ops question!
Nose Master
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(08-12-2017, 08:31 PM)
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He's iconic, but I don't think he's good. He's really shallow up until the awful prequels backstory. His face turn at the end was basically the only time he showed any sort of character at all other than hissing menacingly.
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(08-12-2017, 08:31 PM)
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Darth Vader is the coolest

I will fight all naysayers
PSYGN
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(08-12-2017, 08:33 PM)
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He's so cool you can even buy drinks from him.


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