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Ala Alba
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(08-13-2017, 01:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by SamuelSupreme

Watch

The Clone Wars.


Anakin has been redeemed for years.

So I hear. Would you happen to have a clip that showcases a good Anakin CW moment?
CD'S BAR
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(08-13-2017, 01:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by blakep267

Look at Kylo ten. He looks menacing yet his costume is sleek and stylish. Vader looks slow, clunky and his helmet is stupid. Ren is what Vader should look like

Speaking strictly on looks, Ren is a redesigned version of Vader to better appeal to millennials and their kids.

Vader is supposed to be slow and clunky and behemoth-like. He's a burned man in a medical suit. Also he was designed in the 1970s. He looks just great for what he is.

30 years from now when we have star wars episode 20 people will be saying Ren looks outdated.
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jett
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(08-13-2017, 01:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by DiipuSurotu

http://imgur.com/gallery/7uvrB

Originally Posted by blakep267

Look at Kylo ten. He looks menacing yet his costume is sleek and stylish. Vader looks slow, clunky and his helmet is stupid. Ren is what Vader should look like

Yeah you know what, maybe.
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(08-13-2017, 02:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by takriel

Prequel Anakin.

This. He is whiny bitch.
crazy monkey
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(08-13-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by burgervan


This guy was way better than whiny Anakin.
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(08-13-2017, 02:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Full Recovery

He slaughtered innocent children

He also helped blow up a whole planet. Pretty sure there were kids there too.
Rad Shadow
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(08-13-2017, 02:15 AM)
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Anakin was a bitch.
broncobuster
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(08-13-2017, 02:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by jett

I wonder what could a re-imagined Vader look like, one that fans could agree on. Probably an impossibility. :P That control panel sticking out of his chest really looks like shit, among other things.

I can see fully armored Zod being what modern Darth Vader would resemble, considering it's a blend of Vader and space jockeys.

jdstorm
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(08-13-2017, 02:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Ala Alba

So I hear. Would you happen to have a clip that showcases a good Anakin CW moment?

Anakin is the lead on a rescue mission to save a fellow Jedi on a cruiser that is about to be destroyed. https://youtu.be/FGMabAyZPpI

This is average for clone wars Anakin Skywalker.
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(08-13-2017, 02:20 AM)
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Episode II
Number_6
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(08-13-2017, 02:20 AM)
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I can give you III.
clarknova156
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(08-13-2017, 02:20 AM)

Originally Posted by Mister Saturn

Even ignoring the prequel stuff, because this bad motherfucker came along and ascended to the throne:

MY MAN! Scorpy is one of favorite villains of all time. So under appreciated. Wish more people watched Farscape.
Darksol
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(08-13-2017, 02:21 AM)
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He's an old white dude with a respirator?
Tricky I Shadow
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(08-13-2017, 02:30 AM)
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Vader the coolest villain ever? What? He will always be a boring, lame villain to me. If you really want a cool villain, Femto from Berserk reigns supreme.

adj_noun
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(08-13-2017, 02:32 AM)
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Mr. Freeze is the coolest villain ever.

TheHolyTurnip
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(08-13-2017, 02:48 AM)
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I can give you ten!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVzc20Bm8Xo
Ala Alba
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(08-13-2017, 02:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by jdstorm

Anakin is the lead on a rescue mission to save a fellow Jedi on a cruiser that is about to be destroyed. https://youtu.be/FGMabAyZPpI

This is average for clone wars Anakin Skywalker.

Not bad, but pretty much what I'd expect from beginning of RotS Anakin? I mean, I did like Anakin at the beginning of RotS, so that's not a bad thing.
v1lla21
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(08-13-2017, 02:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tricky I Shadow

Vader the coolest villain ever? What? He will always be a boring, lame villain to me. If you really want a cool villain, Femto from Berserk reigns supreme.

Darth Vader wannabe with a dorky ass costume.


This scene alone makes Darth Vader the baddest motherfucker in the Galaxy.
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He has a dumb helmet.
MMarston
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Originally Posted by broncobuster

I can see fully armored Zod being what modern Darth Vader would resemble, considering it's a blend of Vader and space jockeys.

Eh, I'd rather go for the McQuarrie concept if I were forced to give him a new look, which is sleeker and doesn't have the goofy buttons on the chest.

The only thing I'd change about this is the more insect-y helmet.
Drewton
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(08-13-2017, 02:57 AM)
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What's with the switch box in the middle of his chest?

The McQuarrie design is really nice.

Originally Posted by SamuelSupreme

Watch

The Clone Wars.


Anakin has been redeemed for years.

Nah Clone Wars is still crap
MMarston
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(08-13-2017, 03:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Drewton

What's with the switch box in the middle of his chest?

https://youtu.be/g0ffCICQ-bU?t=1m30s
aly
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(08-13-2017, 03:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by Drewton

What's with the switch box in the middle of his chest?

The McQuarrie design is really nice.


Nah Clone Wars is still crap

Push Clone Wars was great.
fr0st
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(08-13-2017, 03:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Pagusas

Because of the prequels.

This he was like Kylo in the prequels
mrhyderager
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(08-13-2017, 03:03 AM)
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The prequels ruined any chance of him being the coolest in several ways:
  1. Anakin was a shithead and his reasons to turn to the dark side were pretty weak.
  2. Darth Maul was far more of a badass due to the change in style with regard to lightsaber duel. (And his character design was amazing)
  3. The only time I ever felt any kind of fear from his presence was Rogue One. Again, probably due to the difference in film style, but it's an issue.
  4. Ultimately there are villains from other series that are more awe-inspiring in scope, villainy, and design that rank higher.
Tricky I Shadow
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(08-13-2017, 03:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by v1lla21

Darth Vader wannabe with a dorky ass costume.


This scene alone makes Darth Vader the baddest motherfucker in the Galaxy.



WTF even is this post? Dorky costume? Vader wannabe? Vader is a shallow loser. Deal with it.
Drewton
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(08-13-2017, 03:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by mrhyderager

The prequels ruined any chance of him being the coolest in several ways:

  1. Anakin was a shithead and his reasons to turn to the dark side were pretty weak.
  2. Darth Maul was far more of a badass due to the change in style with regard to lightsaber duel. (And his character design was amazing)
  3. The only time I ever felt any kind of fear from his presence was Rogue One. Again, probably due to the difference in film style, but it's an issue.
  4. Ultimately there are villains from other series that are more awe-inspiring in scope, villainy, and design that rank higher.

Just substitute the PT with Rogue One with the prequel to the OT and Vader is the best again. Kylo Ren's pretty good though.

Maul was a cool looking cardboard cut out of a character.
spelen
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(08-13-2017, 03:10 AM)
because the joker is
Waddle Dee
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(08-13-2017, 03:15 AM)
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Because the motherfucker appears on shit like this:











Look at this dumb motherfucker!

It's not as bad when kid friendly mascot characters like Mickey or Mario do this sort of nonsense, but when a supposed "badass" is in products like this? It looks stupid and I can't take him seriously anymore. When I see Vader, I see a dude going to a child's birthday party. Not a guy that slaughters jedi by the dozen.
PhoncipleBone
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(08-13-2017, 03:16 AM)
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Leave Darth Tater out of this!
MMarston
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(08-13-2017, 03:16 AM)
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If anyone else is wondering what a "modern Vader" would look like, you can just look at the concept art for Kylo Ren during production of TFA where they were tried to emulate him a lot.




By the way, according to the art book, it also took them forever to finally get to the mask we got in the end.
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Trickster
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Originally Posted by Tricky I Shadow

Vader the coolest villain ever? What? He will always be a boring, lame villain to me. If you really want a cool villain, Femto from Berserk reigns supreme.

Griffith/Femto is basically the best villain ever. His relationship with the protagonist and then the way he ultimately assumes the mantle of villain is just so much better than anything else I've seen. Can't imagine anyone who's actually read Berserk would disagree
Icyflamez96
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(08-13-2017, 03:18 AM)
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Because I didnt grow up with him
Tricky I Shadow
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Originally Posted by Trickster

Griffith/Femto is basically the best villain ever. His relationship with the protagonist and then the way he ultimately assumes the mantle of villain is just so much better than anything else I've seen. Can't imagine anyone who's actually read Berserk would disagree

Preach it brother!
EGM1966
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(08-13-2017, 03:33 AM)
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Because he's not really cool. He was badass for a while but they screwed that up.

Alan Rickman as Hans in Dir Hard was cool (and knew a good suit when he saw one) for e smoke: Vader was never really cool in the common sense of the word. Closest he came was Empire when he was casually offing failing subordinates and mostly winning.

Ledger's Joker in TDK was unsettlingly cool.

Vader up to Jedi would probably make a solid top 10 but the prequels in particularly really eroded his menace and for sure any coolness the character had.
Occam
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(08-13-2017, 03:35 AM)
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Are the prequels still canon?
D1renegade
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(08-13-2017, 03:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by TimeEffect

He turned soft in the end.

This. Calling Luke son and shit. I was disgusted by the end of ROTJ.
nachum00
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(08-13-2017, 03:49 AM)
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He just looks cool but his actions don't match his appearance.
tanooki27
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Originally Posted by Slayven

Cause he was hilariously ineffectual at his job, and when all said and done just a henchman

the most tortured henchman ever
Van Bur3n
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*cough* *cough*



But the actual answer is that Hannibal Lector, Ledger's Joker, and Bill the Butcher exist.
v1lla21
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(08-13-2017, 04:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by Tricky I Shadow



WTF even is this post? Dorky costume? Vader wannabe? Vader is a shallow loser. Deal with it.

It's okay man, sometimes we like what we like.
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Originally Posted by v1lla21

It's okay man, sometimes we like what we like.

More like sometimes people don't know what they're talking about. Calling Femto a Vader wannabe. Please.
jett
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Originally Posted by v1lla21

Darth Vader wannabe with a dorky ass costume.


This scene alone makes Darth Vader the baddest motherfucker in the Galaxy.

Femto is way more evil than Vader.

Vader could've had an amazing origin story that added some true depth to his character. But we got the prequels instead.
Last edited by jett; 08-13-2017 at 05:38 AM.
Mighty Chin
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(08-13-2017, 05:34 AM)
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Here's one reason, because he ain't this guy.

StanleyPalmtree
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Originally Posted by Trickster

Griffith/Femto is basically the best villain ever. His relationship with the protagonist and then the way he ultimately assumes the mantle of villain is just so much better than anything else I've seen. Can't imagine anyone who's actually read Berserk would disagree

^^
he said it!
he said what we're all thinking.

and lol at the 'vader wananabe' up above, thats just adorable.
Drewton
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(08-13-2017, 06:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Trickster

Griffith/Femto is basically the best villain ever.

LookAtMeGo
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(08-13-2017, 06:18 AM)
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Because Kylo took over. Amirite?

Not surprised people not liking vader posting anime.
StanleyPalmtree
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Originally Posted by Drewton

you should read/watch the anime/manga Berserk

its really good, and im totally not biased toward it.
at all.
PeskyToaster
(08-13-2017, 06:30 AM)
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All these anime and comic book dorks reveling in the presence of a true icon. even his random lines are more inscribed in pop culture than most other characters. I'd say only the joker is comparable.

Coolness isn't something you can establish over long arcs with things like motivations and power levels. It's conveyed in a single moment and that moment is Darth Vader stepping over dead bodies casually taking control of a ship. It's about the design combined with the moment. It's the same reason Boba Fett is cool. He looks fuckin sick and he gets a callout from Darth Vader. That's all you need. It's clearly difficult for nerds to understand cool, having never experienced it and why random comic and anime villains get suggested as answers, but regular people get it which is why Darth Vader is instantly recognizable around the world.
Temp_User
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(08-13-2017, 06:31 AM)
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Gotta give it to Tarantino. He makes his villains cool, smart, intelligent, in-control and totally devious. Totally unlike Anakin.


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