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Pikma
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(08-13-2017, 07:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Evil Monkey DTT

I find it interesting not one nazi has been shot by police, like black children sleeping can be killed but NOT A SINGLE NAZI even after 2 police were murdered.

They probably haven't felt threatened yet, and looking at some of the photos, I don't blame them

I mean, look at these fucking goofy looking pieces of shit

Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

You can clearly see the bearded cunt who acts as their ringleader.

Con_Smith
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(08-13-2017, 07:41 AM)
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People have been saying both sides all weekend. Honestly if you cover for any of these pos I already know where you lie. And if you bring up Antifa as a defense you might as well save your breathe.

There is no both sides when one side literally telling you fuck people like me, fuck minorities, fuck lgbt..., Ect. You can eat a bag of dicks infused with tigers blood if you pop that shit off. Indians and Blacks (and various other supporting races) have been getting shut the fuck down for the past few years prior and you try to moralize a fucking Nazi right to speak when we play the "I dunno guys" game with everyone else.
Alucrid
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(08-13-2017, 07:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by Muppet of a Man

Every time I see a situation like this one, I sadly think to myself: "Would half these young Nazi fools be on board with this heinous shit if the internet was properly moderated and places like 4chan were not allowed to fester and spread evil white supremacist thinking?"

they'd probably just be harassing anita sarkeesian
Hackworth
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(08-13-2017, 07:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by PR_rambo

This is the first time I've ever felt like Violent retaliation is justified.

Like my moral core is being seriously fucked with

The primary Nazi goal is killing anyone who isn't a Nazi. Violence towards fascists is justified self defense.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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(08-13-2017, 07:43 AM)
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what in the fuck
George Oscar Bluth II
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(08-13-2017, 07:43 AM)
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I almost have no words.

Violent retaliation is honestly looking like the only way to combat this. The government don't care, the police (lol) don't care... this shit will keep happening just as it always has been.
kitsunelaine
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(08-13-2017, 07:44 AM)
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2017. 1940. What's the difference?
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StrategyFan
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(08-13-2017, 07:52 AM)
the 1950s comparisons aren't too surprising

what decade did you think "make america great again" referred to?
Pupperbabysassy
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(08-13-2017, 08:26 AM)

Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

You can clearly see the bearded cunt who acts as their ringleader.

These guys made shields out of cut up chemical drums. What can that protect them from?
Lan Dong Mik
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(08-13-2017, 08:36 AM)
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Pure fucking scum. I'll never understand their hatred. Evil shit
GoingToDelete
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(08-13-2017, 08:45 AM)
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The fuck. What's going on with this planet.
Mohonky
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(08-13-2017, 09:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lan Dong Mik

Pure fucking scum. I'll never understand their hatred. Evil shit

Its irrational, hence you wont / cant understand it.
Triggerhappytel
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(08-13-2017, 09:29 AM)
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Are those riot police around him or is that how some of the Nazis showed up to 'protest'?
Mr. X
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(08-13-2017, 09:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Are those riot police around him or is that how some of the Nazis showed up to 'protest'?

Nazis
Ri'Orius
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(08-13-2017, 09:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Evil Monkey DTT

I find it interesting not one nazi has been shot by police, like black children sleeping can be killed but NOT A SINGLE NAZI even after 2 police were murdered.

What murdered police? Was the chopper crash confirmed to be foul play somehow?
Always-honest
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(08-13-2017, 09:37 AM)
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Incredible. In this day and age... Isn't it time this should really be a thing of the past?
It all seems so fucking silly. Nazi's in the USA?.. WTF.
So based on these images, arrests will be made, right?

Edit: Jesus, i'm just catching up on this Charlottesville sstuff... What the hell is happening?
Last edited by Always-honest; 08-13-2017 at 09:44 AM.
Nerazar
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(08-13-2017, 09:41 AM)

Originally Posted by Con_Smith

People have been saying both sides all weekend. Honestly if you cover for any of these pos I already know where you lie. And if you bring up Antifa as a defense you might as well save your breathe.

There is no both sides when one side literally telling you fuck people like me, fuck minorities, fuck lgbt..., Ect. You can eat a bag of dicks infused with tigers blood if you pop that shit off. Indians and Blacks (and various other supporting races) have been getting shut the fuck down for the past few years prior and you try to moralize a fucking Nazi right to speak when we play the "I dunno guys" game with everyone else.

I agree with you, just still add the Antifa to your Nazi list. Violent morons equal violent morons and both worldviews and their actual realization hurt and kill people.

In this very case, however, there is no "both sides". Just one side ramming a car into a peaceful protest. Which has to be dealt with harshly and swiftly. Trust in government is in an all-time low, but it can go lower than that if this is not discussed openly followed by a strong application of criminal law.
Vigilant Walrus
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(08-13-2017, 10:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Always-honest


Edit: Jesus, i'm just catching up on this Charlottesville sstuff... What the hell is happening?

The short answer; Globalization and the disruption across power structures that it brings. Loss of national identity, fear of being a minority in their own country, persecution complex and seeing other groups as part of a threatning whole wanting to take their stuff. They blame their worsened quality of life on minorities.


The long answer; The United States like other western nations are forged through conquests. When the whites are the overwhelming majority there is no need for them to identity and stick together. But once you see a global society with free movement of peoples, they are beginning to become a minority in a country they feel is theirs.

This give rise to white identity politics and the idea that whites are having what is rightfully theirs... snuffed from underneath them from what they see as bad people. Xenophobia, paranoia and racial, religious and ethnic stereotyping. Outlets like fox news and breitbart riles them up and more and more white people become radicalized as opportunity and quality of life dwindles. POC and minorities are blamed as being the perceived under class that takes everything away from them.

This is pretty standard stuff, and has been throughout the last 2000 years. It's par for course in other countries where the majority population falls on hard times. It's easiest to blame the minorities as they are the ones who are perceived as bringing change.
You need to remember that it's not more than a single lifetime ago- about 80 years or so, that the way we did things in the west, as taking what we wanted at the expense of other people. It's not even a lifetime ago since the European empires stopped colonizing their human abuses of people all over the world.

When the US was founded it was on total destruction. That is how nation borders everywhere are formed.
So when you get a globalized society with a mix of people from everywhere, the people who had control, are losing that control, and what you see now, is groups of white people thinking they can stop globalization and keep the united states from having white people become a minority in their own country. Fear and anxiety.
Alex Jones and other of this ilk are also funneling this line of thinking, and its one of the driving forces behind the desire to deduce the government to nothing, and also why libertarian thinking is becoming more of a thing all over the western world.
We see it in Europe too.
Even in Scandinavia, where people are becoming critical of their own welfare state as they see outsiders coming in with no desire to integrate, but take up resources without integrating or assimilating with the values of said country.
A part of that might also have something to do with that nation states, and the taxation based contribution therein is based on various forms of solidarity- The idea you want to contribute and give to your own country men.
But with a free movement of people from all over the world, some people see themselves distanced from their own country as the country becomes more globalized and diverse and fair.

Conservatives in most places are for stopping change, keeping the old ways and the way things where. traditions and structures.
Don't change things that ain't broken (for them!). That is why they bake on old glories and old nationalism. If you watch Steve Bannons movies, they all try to hammer this theme that the US is only strong and powerful when united against an enemy.
He feels a good war is needed, and that the country is dying from the underclass of poor people who are dependent on resources. He thinks that if they had a big world war and they could conscribe every adult man and woman for military service, the US would get back into shape. T
his is fantastical military perversion and a grandiose militant way of thinking extricated by the military industrial complex.
The US largest and most important export is war, and one way or the other, it benefits from conflict. Either through the militarization of civilian police, the heightened security and defense spending at home.
So much RnD and profiteering goes into defense that Trump can keep stirring the hornenes nest. The Wars if afghanistan and Iraq might have cost the taxpayers a lot of money (and iraqi and afghans, their lives), but a lot of people made a lot of money of contracting jobs of those war, and the post-9/11 militarization.

For white radicalized conservatives, this paranoia of white people being outbred in their own country is strong all over the western world. You see it in France, the UK, Italy, Scandinavia.
Incompatibility in values, religious and power structures. Your place of birth is your privilege- your ticket in life, and basically your place of birth has always dictated your level of opportunity and privilege. globalization is watching all of human history fight over borders and lands being shaken up.
500 years ago, you'd just have declared war, enslaved or killed everyone. It's the same story in every powerful country on earth.

And this feeling is so strong, that even when this line of thinking will hurt them- they are so afraid of losing everything they have, that they will almost literally commit kamikaze to stop foreigners from taking their stuff.
That's the mentality you see with trump supporters in flyover states who desperately depend on social services, health care and governance programs.
Jackpot
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(08-13-2017, 11:24 AM)
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vs.

jakonovski
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(08-13-2017, 11:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jackpot

vs.

That pairing is pretty much America in a nutshell.
FStubbs
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(08-13-2017, 11:39 AM)

Originally Posted by StrategyFan

the 1950s comparisons aren't too surprising

what decade did you think "make america great again" referred to?

The 1850s.
FStubbs
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(08-13-2017, 11:46 AM)

Originally Posted by Pikma

They probably haven't felt threatened yet, and looking at some of the photos, I don't blame them

I mean, look at these fucking goofy looking pieces of shit

That's part of the problem. You're conditioned to think of them that way, when in fact they're no different than these guys:

Pikma
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(08-13-2017, 11:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by FStubbs

That's part of the problem. You're conditioned to think of them that way, when in fact they're no different than these guys:

I'm joking about the fact that police officers don't seem to feel "threatened" about white men unlike whenever they handle a situation where there's one or more black men involved, while also making fun of how much of a losers these fuckers are.

But you're definitely right, these empowered, emboldened, impune human trashbags are extremely dangerous.
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Originally Posted by Mysterious

Why are these idiots even doing Nazi salutes? Didn't their grandparents fight the Nazis?

Their grandparents did nazi salutes themselves for a while.. Anyhow, I see your point.

RE the location - it was so close to the station so that if something went wrong (as in: single black kid beats up nazi cosplayers) they'd get prompt police help.
lemmykoopa
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(08-13-2017, 12:08 PM)
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Why were these KKK and other Nazi marches not banned? You can't organise such marches in most Euro countries. Everything that promotes hate and or hate speech gets banned and is illegal.
ssolitare
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(08-13-2017, 12:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Nerazar

I agree with you, just still add the Antifa to your Nazi list. Violent morons equal violent morons and both worldviews and their actual realization hurt and kill people.

Antifa is not in the same universe as a Nazi.
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(08-13-2017, 12:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nerazar

I agree with you, just still add the Antifa to your Nazi list. Violent morons equal violent morons and both worldviews and their actual realization hurt and kill people.

In this very case, however, there is no "both sides". Just one side ramming a car into a peaceful protest. Which has to be dealt with harshly and swiftly. Trust in government is in an all-time low, but it can go lower than that if this is not discussed openly followed by a strong application of criminal law.

These are fucking nazis. What the hell is wrong with you.
Bufbaf
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(08-13-2017, 12:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by lemmykoopa

Why were these KKK and other Nazi marches not banned? You can't organise such marches in most Euro countries. Everything that promotes hate and or hate speech gets banned and is illegal.

Because "free speech" in the US covers literally anything. Even hate speech.

The prevalent excuse of "just stating my opinion" goes a long way, apparently.
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Originally Posted by Bufbaf

Because "free speech" in the US covers literally anything. Even hate speech.

Except if it's non-whites.
Are we gonna pretend a pro isis march would be as welcomed.
GrizzleBoy
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(08-13-2017, 12:15 PM)

Originally Posted by lemmykoopa

Why were these KKK and other Nazi marches not banned? You can't organise such marches in most Euro countries. Everything that promotes hate and or hate speech gets banned and is illegal.

America was literally founded and built on white nationalism and is still a relatively young country in the grand scheme of things.
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Originally Posted by -Plasma Reus-

Except if it's non-whites.
Are we gonna pretend a pro isis march would be as welcomed.

There isn't a Muslim extremist in the White House though.
Jumeira
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(08-13-2017, 12:16 PM)
Trump, you encouraged this, horrible leader for not condemning and giving air to this destructive nationalism when running for president.
Hagi
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(08-13-2017, 12:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by lemmykoopa

Why were these KKK and other Nazi marches not banned? You can't organise such marches in most Euro countries. Everything that promotes hate and or hate speech gets banned and is illegal.

Free speech is all encompassing in America, people will literally fight for racists to have the right to be racists. Now outside of America that will turn heads especially when we see that not everyone is given the same protections as others but what can you do.
firehawk12
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(08-13-2017, 12:18 PM)
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Still think leftists should strap up and open carry.
Bufbaf
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(08-13-2017, 12:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by -Plasma Reus-

Except if it's non-whites.
Are we gonna pretend a pro isis march would be as welcomed.

That's terrorism. Nazis are fine, they're not hurting anyone /s
kmax
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(08-13-2017, 12:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bufbaf

Because "free speech" in the US covers literally anything. Even hate speech.

The prevalent excuse of "just stating my opinion" goes a long way, apparently.

Imagine a scenario where ISIS terrorist sympathizers walking down the streets with tactical gear and semi-automatic rifles. How well would that fare under the banner of "free speech"?

It's utter nonsense. These fucks have demonstrated that they are terrorists and are therefore a danger to society. They should have 0 privilege to our liberty laws.
Kinsei
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(08-13-2017, 12:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by firehawk12

Still think leftists should strap up and open carry.

Sadly that's only an option for white people.
ssolitare
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(08-13-2017, 12:25 PM)

Originally Posted by firehawk12

Still think leftists should strap up and open carry.

Well of course we have to now, in response to Nazi's who are backed by the government. Losing the election has turned into life or death.
firehawk12
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(08-13-2017, 12:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kinsei

Sadly that's only an option for white people.

Yeah. :/
White leftists have to basically take responsibility for arming up and protecting minorities, since the authorities won't do it now.

Originally Posted by ssolitare

Well of course we have to now, in response to Nazi's who are backed by the government. Losing the election has turned into life or death.

You have a President who is basically telling Nazis that he's behind them, so yeah, it's fucked.
Bastables
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(08-13-2017, 12:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by neorej

There isn't a Muslim fascist in the White House though.

Fixed that for you
Rupetta
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(08-13-2017, 12:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triggerhappytel

Are those riot police around him or is that how some of the Nazis showed up to 'protest'?

I have some bad news for you. That's not their armed wing. This is.


Carrying body armor and combat weapons, white nationalists, neo-Nazis and members of the "alt-right" evacuate comrades who were pepper-sprayed after the "Unite the Right" rally was declared an unlawful gathering by Virginia State Police.
Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

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UberTag
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(08-13-2017, 12:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by lemmykoopa

Why were these KKK and other Nazi marches not banned? You can't organise such marches in most Euro countries. Everything that promotes hate and or hate speech gets banned and is illegal.

Apparently people are supposed to be grateful and rejoice in the freedom of a land that allows, conditions, encourages and incites white supremacy, Nazism and prejudice. And their minds have become so twisted that they believe their country is greater than any other on the planet because of this.

Hate and hate speech absolutely should be banned and illegal as they are in any just, civil and rational society but it won't be in the USA without a bloody civil uprising because the shepherds of hate and fear are entrenched within every single structure of power and authority.
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(08-13-2017, 12:45 PM)
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So I guess Trump succeeded to make America great again? A path to a second civil war. And this isn't Putin's fault. Racists finally having not to hide themselves. They were always there. And now they're in power again. This is why you teach kids history. So you don't repeat the same mistakes.
Jabronium
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(08-13-2017, 12:46 PM)
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How can I help fight against this? Who can I support, whether organizations or individuals? Already a donor to the SPLC since the election.
Shadybiz
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(08-13-2017, 12:52 PM)
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Cowardice at its finest. Disgusting behavior.
Relaxed Muscle
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(08-13-2017, 12:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rupetta

I have some bad news for you. That's not their armed wing. This is.

Why the fuck they are allowing people with guns in a march!!!??

This is surreal to me....
ReplacementPelican
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(08-13-2017, 12:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

You can clearly see the bearded cunt who acts as their ringleader.

Why is it that white supremacists are always the ugliest, fattest, least educated mother fuckers.

They barely have supremacy over a ham sandwich.
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(08-13-2017, 01:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rupetta

I have some bad news for you. That's not their armed wing. This is.

Wait, you can walk around like that in the US and not get in trouble?
What the fuck...
Supast4r
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(08-13-2017, 01:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by MoonsaultSlayer

I feel like two wrongs make a right here.

But I'm morally conflicted. These are clearly (and I mean CLEARLY) people with violent hatred and they're enacting on it and spreading their ideals to their children even. And killing them could only make them a martyr and support the "all sides" mentality. How do you end this?

You jail them not kill them
RMI
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gross. what a bunch of cowards.

Originally Posted by Mik2121

Wait, you can walk around like that in the US and not get in trouble?
What the fuck...

if you're white and it is an open-carry state, yes.

emphasis on the bolded.

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