Karsticles
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If someone made this as a fake, wouldn't be more to-date? You'd think the person would want to have the biggest splash possible.
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Rumor: Leaked document detailing MS future plans for the Xbox line. 56 pages long.
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Shining Sunshine
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they must be gone crazy with those glasses...
Microsoft can't even think of original ideas in their prototype stage.
Brad Grenz
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Hydrogen Bluebird
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No way this is fake. Old most probably but not fake. Nobody would put this much effort in making a "fake" document.
Agent Ironside
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It actually seems legit, but being as old as it is, it's probably pretty much useless.
I H8 Memes
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clutch.as.it.gets.
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I really don`t think that`s fake.
So MS wants to launch their new "always on" console (4-6* the power of the 360) with Kinect 2.0 2013 for 299 and cost them 225 to make after 8 fucking years.
Jep, they got cheap and want to offer a weakling.
So MS wants to launch their new "always on" console (4-6* the power of the 360) with Kinect 2.0 2013 for 299 and cost them 225 to make after 8 fucking years.
Jep, they got cheap and want to offer a weakling.
It does remind of power point presentations at work from our marketing department. But they do it better
Surely MS can use MS Powerpoint better than that.
However, it's a highly plausible and lengthy fake. Like a dozen hours invested fake. It's crazy enough to be true. I dunno.
Surely MS can use MS Powerpoint better than that.
However, it's a highly plausible and lengthy fake. Like a dozen hours invested fake. It's crazy enough to be true. I dunno.
GarthVaderUK
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soul creator
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Fake or real, all of the stuff mentioned seemed pretty plausible. I think they're definitely taking the "cheap, but profitable on day 1" approach to things.
Get enough power to do some better looking games at 1080p and run all these apps or whatever, but not necessarily "omg generation leap grafx at all costs"
Get enough power to do some better looking games at 1080p and run all these apps or whatever, but not necessarily "omg generation leap grafx at all costs"
Yep, very plausible. The physical dimensions of it, targeting TV streaming box competition, specs, all seem realistic. Nothing jarring sticking out that is absurd.
Anyway, I would be pleased if this is real. Would mean that PC ports will look great.
Gareth Bale
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The Kinect Glasses (Fortaleza?) thing is the most surprising bit. Sounds stupid as hell though.
painful fart
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Might want to read this?
http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4375240/AMD-to-integrate-ARM-core-into-APUs
This article makes me feel it is kind of more ridiculous now.
^What does this really gain Microsoft in terms of performance relative to the amount of silicon used?
UberTag
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I've seen some pretty dastardly MS PowerPoint presentations over the past seven years.
You forget that it's a big organization and that Office training isn't exactly a prerequisite to working there.
New $15 a month live just launch with the $99 xbox360.
specialguy
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Or whoevers behind "nukezilla" a little known site looking for hits, faked them.
Definitely real and actually quite revealing:
- MS has a Google Project Glass competitor in the works called Fortaleza
- Smart Glass has been part of the plan all along and isn't a response to the Wii U
- The next Xbox will finally be the "one device" to rule them all
- "Never upgrade your hardware again" implies no plans for a traditional 720 successor or 5 year lifetime
- All of this will be presented clumsily and in stages, preventing anyone from seeing the big picture as it's described here
For the people complaining that it "doesn't look like a real document": at companies like Microsoft, you don't worry about how the powerpoint looks internally. You just put stuff on it and present. So in fact the worse, more rushed it looks, the likelier it's real ;-)
- MS has a Google Project Glass competitor in the works called Fortaleza
- Smart Glass has been part of the plan all along and isn't a response to the Wii U
- The next Xbox will finally be the "one device" to rule them all
- "Never upgrade your hardware again" implies no plans for a traditional 720 successor or 5 year lifetime
- All of this will be presented clumsily and in stages, preventing anyone from seeing the big picture as it's described here
For the people complaining that it "doesn't look like a real document": at companies like Microsoft, you don't worry about how the powerpoint looks internally. You just put stuff on it and present. So in fact the worse, more rushed it looks, the likelier it's real ;-)
specialguy
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The only way it makes sense to me is if they were somehow undecided between AMD X86 small Jaguar type cores and ARM. So it's Arm or x86, not both.
Mind you, you start having to really stretch to justify this document like that, and I doubt it's real.
This is fake
3 CPUs, 2 GPUs, flash cache (SLC... Expensive) and flash storage (MLC... In replacement of HDDs? Lol. Not anywhere close to fruition cost:storage)
PCIe? (This would not be helpful for a closed system, at all.) DisplayPort? (Why? Theres almost no point in having displayport) Cellular tech? (Old cell tech, even in 2010.. Everyone KNEW LTE was upcoming)
And OEM licensing?
$299 while maintaining margins?
Yeah, ok.
3 CPUs, 2 GPUs, flash cache (SLC... Expensive) and flash storage (MLC... In replacement of HDDs? Lol. Not anywhere close to fruition cost:storage)
PCIe? (This would not be helpful for a closed system, at all.) DisplayPort? (Why? Theres almost no point in having displayport) Cellular tech? (Old cell tech, even in 2010.. Everyone KNEW LTE was upcoming)
And OEM licensing?
$299 while maintaining margins?
Yeah, ok.
bigtroyjon
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It's not a new tier(still Gold) and it didn't come out in 2011.
painful fart
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If you want to have low power standby system ARM cores are the best, but hey, I have no idea what it means in the slides. Maybe it wasn´t decided at the time of writing.
But the combination of x86 and ARM is certainly realistic.
The CPUs look dirt cheap. Low power, low frequency. The second GPU is probably cheap, just for TV streaming mode to reduce power/heat/noise.
I've seen Intel's roadmap, and they're doing something crazy with products with ridiculous numbers of processors and instruction sets to do vector stuff.
beelzebozo
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Definitely real and actually quite revealing:
- MS has a Google Project Glass competitor in the works called Fortaleza
- Smart Glass has been part of the plan all along and isn't a response to the Wii U
- The next Xbox will finally be the "one device" to rule them all
- "Never upgrade your hardware again" implies no plans for a traditional 720 successor or 5 year lifetime
- All of this will be presented clumsily and in stages, preventing anyone from seeing the big picture as it's described here
For the people complaining that it "doesn't look like a real document": at companies like Microsoft, you don't worry about how the powerpoint looks internally. You just put stuff on it and present. So in fact the worse, more rushed it looks, the likelier it's real ;-)
hahaha.
they must be gone crazy with those glasses...
This is some 13 Ghosts shit.
Brad Grenz
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If they created it, why didn't they release the whole document at the time? Why would you fake a 50+ page power point, commission that much art and then just write 4 pull-quote articles?
Definitely real and actually quite revealing:
- MS has a Google Project Glass competitor in the works called Fortaleza
- Smart Glass has been part of the plan all along and isn't a response to the Wii U
- The next Xbox will finally be the "one device" to rule them all
- "Never upgrade your hardware again" implies no plans for a traditional 720 successor or 5 year lifetime
- All of this will be presented clumsily and in stages, preventing anyone from seeing the big picture as it's described here
For the people complaining that it "doesn't look like a real document": at companies like Microsoft, you don't worry about how the powerpoint looks internally. You just put stuff on it and present. So in fact the worse, more rushed it looks, the likelier it's real ;-)
I have found this to be true too. The followup threads are always "wait, that was actually real, lol!"
Your other points though, I have no idea.
Conflict NZ
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4GB of DDR4 Ram you say? Fake I say.
AngmarsKing701
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The definition of science fiction.
Or is it fantasy?
Or is it fantasy?
While I agree this is probably fake, that part turning out false (so far) doesn't necessarily prove anything imo.
MS raised the price of Live ($50 to $60) around the same time this document was supposedly written, it's not out of the question that they'd be thinking of introducing new tiers as well. They could've decided against it or decided to wait until the next-gen console before changing any tiers.
Slides saying it's an always on DVR and supports linear TV sounds (presumably through an HDMI pass-through) too smart and perfect to be true. I mean they could ruin Apple in the TV department if all this shit was true.
EDIT: Funny seeing the slide predicting PS4 will have Google TV built in. Making it exactly like the 720. The person who wrote this whether Microsoft or not seems obsessed with the all in one media device in the home idea. Sounds like I wrote it.
EDIT: Funny seeing the slide predicting PS4 will have Google TV built in. Making it exactly like the 720. The person who wrote this whether Microsoft or not seems obsessed with the all in one media device in the home idea. Sounds like I wrote it.
bigtroyjon
Member
It's only one of many things wrong with the timeline and road map. If it does happen to be a real Microsoft document, then there is enough wrong or changed that it doesn't really tell us anything since so many things aren't in line with what really happened.
shinobi602
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Yup. Used to work at AT&T and I can vouch for seeing shitty internal powerpoints.
Activision and Bungie refer to it as the Xbox 720 in leaked court documents.
All i want from this is full hardware BC. That would be awesome. I hate the concept of having old games i cant play. I got a crap ton of ps2 games that i cant play right now cause my old ps2 is dieing and i cant find a new one to buy thats under 200$ since they must have discontinued them.
What a great post.
You should not be so hasty to dismiss the work of a true fanboy...
fse
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amazon has people selling new ones for like $170.