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SarusGray
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(03-11-2017, 03:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by KO Traveling Hobo

That's the nature of the medium. A third is a third.

And a score is a score.
Xadjim
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(03-11-2017, 03:35 AM)
ok, I have played 5-6 hours now.... my thoughts so far: WOW..... damn are the boss battles intense.
mike6467
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(03-11-2017, 03:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dio

Personally, I would still be all up in this game even if it got Drakengard 3 scores, as long as those scores were based on finishing the damn game.

And I loved D3 despite the horrible technical flaws (thanks Deadly Premonition studio!)

The reason I care about the metascore at all this time because I actually do know people who would buy this game if it was 90 instead of 89 and I want more people to get into what I'm into. I want more people to talk about the Drakengard/Nier universe with that got into it through this game.

I questioned some things in that last thread and was told I shouldn't buy the game. Because I gave an opinion about review scores.

I'm giving them my money, because I'm super hyped for this game (currently waiting on PC). Jesus though, the hostility around all this is absurd.
Servbot24
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(03-11-2017, 03:35 AM)

Originally Posted by big fake

He didn't though, he didn't finish it. He didn't do his job. It's a job, you are forced to do things for monetary value, one thing you don't like doesn't mean you can half ass your job.

He's supposed to give his feelings of the game, and his feeling was "not worth completing."
LotusHD
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(03-11-2017, 03:36 AM)

Originally Posted by Xadjim

ok, I have played 5-6 hours now.... my thoughts so far: WOW..... damn are the boss battles intense.

Right? What's the last one you did?
UtterlyPerplexed
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(03-11-2017, 03:36 AM)

Originally Posted by Dio

The reason I care about the metascore at all this time because I actually do know people who would buy this game if it was 90 instead of 89 and I want more people to get into what I'm into. I want more people to talk about the Drakengard/Nier universe with that got into it through this game.

I would love to know what difference they think a measly 1% signifies on Metacritic of all places and why 90 all of a sudden seems to be this holy threshold with everything below subpar.

Chances are, you weren't ever going to convince these people to play the game if their metrics are that daft.
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(03-11-2017, 03:36 AM)
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This thread is a shambles over ONE poor review. Cool off and PM a mod to unlock it when the last wave of reviews hits and we can try again.
Zolo
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(03-20-2017, 11:20 AM)
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PM'd a mod to unlock this since there's only been one review on Metacritic in the last 3 days, and the Easy Allies review is up.

Easy Allies

True authorship is a rare thing to find in games, yet itís very present in Nier: Automata. Like Yoko Taroís past work, Automata challenges gaming norms through narrative structure, subjects discussed, and even how the nature of games can be used to convey ideas that other mediums canít. In the past, appreciating these things meant accepting middling or even poor technical and mechanical aspects. With Nier: Automata, far fewer excuses are necessary. Itís a bold, stylish, and intelligent game that leaves an indelible mark.

Full review: https://easyallies.com/#!/review/nier-automata

Not a mod, but obviously don't repeat the same case of going after one negative review and certainly don't start linking to the reviewer's twitter or whatever.
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(03-20-2017, 11:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by ModBot

This thread is a shambles over ONE poor review. Cool off and PM a mod to unlock it when the last wave of reviews hits and we can try again.

Okay
Leona Lewis
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(03-20-2017, 02:37 PM)
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Beware, the Slate review (well-written as it is) literally begins by revealing the final ending's final twist.
meirl
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(03-20-2017, 02:38 PM)
Btw Metacritic is now at 88 :)
Inuhanyou
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(03-20-2017, 02:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by meirl

Btw Metacritic is now at 88 :)

Its been at 88 for a while now...


I don't know why reviewers have to spoil tons of stuff right in their reviews, what if people want to find out stuff for themselves?
OniBaka
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(03-20-2017, 02:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Leona Lewis

Beware, the Slate review (well-written as it is) literally begins by revealing the final ending's final twist.

That's messed up, diminishes the impact for plot heavy game.
tiebreaker
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(03-20-2017, 02:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Inuhanyou

Its been at 88 for a while now...


I don't know why reviewers have to spoil tons of stuff right in their reviews, what if people want to find out stuff for themselves?

Reviews need a better structure, so people can skip parts they don't want to know.
Clear
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(03-20-2017, 02:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by meirl

Btw Metacritic is now at 88 :)

For a game like this, which is unconventional and creatively challenging, 88 is an incredibly good meta-score. For a creator who by his own admittance "makes weird games for weird people", its a truly remarkable thing.
Blitzhex
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(03-20-2017, 02:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by meirl

Btw Metacritic is now at 88 :)

Good news, hopefully I won't have to break my persona5 disc.
Audioboxer
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(03-20-2017, 03:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zolo

PM'd a mod to unlock this since there's only been one review on Metacritic in the last 3 days, and the Easy Allies review is up.

Easy Allies


Full review: https://easyallies.com/#!/review/nier-automata

Not a mod, but obviously don't repeat the same case of going after one negative review and certainly don't start linking to the reviewer's twitter or whatever.

Damn good review to open up the thread again! :D

Taro in a nutshell (quote that good its worth requoting)

True authorship is a rare thing to find in games, yet it’s very present in Nier: Automata. Like Yoko Taro’s past work, Automata challenges gaming norms through narrative structure, subjects discussed, and even how the nature of games can be used to convey ideas that other mediums can’t. In the past, appreciating these things meant accepting middling or even poor technical and mechanical aspects. With Nier: Automata, far fewer excuses are necessary. It’s a bold, stylish, and intelligent game that leaves an indelible mark.

Ruff
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(03-20-2017, 03:00 PM)
I wonder if that guy played MGSV past the first set of credits.

On the second mission

because it has credits all the time.

Anyway, glad to see this game being praised so much in 99% of the reviews. Certainly deserves it.
OniBaka
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(03-20-2017, 03:07 PM)
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Really want to see this get goty but it's up against Zelda, horizon and red dead 2.
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(03-20-2017, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by OniBaka

Really want to see this get goty but it's up against Zelda, horizon and red dead 2.

And persona 5
Squire
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(03-20-2017, 04:16 PM)
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Who the fuck cares about the MC average. Christ. Really.
Zolo
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(03-20-2017, 11:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by OniBaka

Really want to see this get goty but it's up against Zelda, horizon and red dead 2.

I expect Zelda to take the good majority. It's main competitor will be Red Dead 2 if it releases this year. Even the RPG of the year, it still goes up against Horizon and Persona 5 though.
Szadek
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(03-20-2017, 11:19 PM)
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Jim Sterling just posted on Twitter that he is review is coming soon.
https://twitter.com/JimSterling/stat...31419122581504
He seems to have a blast playing the game if his tweets are any indication.
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(03-20-2017, 11:27 PM)
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yay this thread is back

Originally Posted by Leona Lewis

Beware, the Slate review (well-written as it is) literally begins by revealing the final ending's final twist.

why
DrunkShogun
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(03-20-2017, 11:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Szadek

Jim Sterling just posted on Twitter that he is review is coming soon.
https://twitter.com/JimSterling/stat...31419122581504
He seems to have a blast playing the game if his tweets are any indication.

Hope it's good just to spread the good word on how good the game is. Was good hearing that emotional bits got to him.
Dragon1893
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(03-20-2017, 11:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Leona Lewis

Beware, the Slate review (well-written as it is) literally begins by revealing the final ending's final twist.

Wut?!
LotusHD
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(03-20-2017, 11:57 PM)

Originally Posted by Leona Lewis

Beware, the Slate review (well-written as it is) literally begins by revealing the final ending's final twist.

Damn that's fucked up lol
hydrophilic attack
(03-21-2017, 12:56 AM)
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imagine if you could travel in time one year back and tell people that a yoko taro game would considerably out-review the latest mass effect

people would think you were crazy
StrongBlackVine
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(03-21-2017, 01:05 AM)

Originally Posted by Squire

Who the fuck cares about the MC average. Christ. Really.

Obviously a a whole fucking lot of people if you follow review threads which you obviously do. Is this a rhetorical question?
Crayon
(03-21-2017, 01:11 AM)
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Our triumphant review thread is back. :3
BRSxIgnition
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(03-21-2017, 01:54 AM)
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I'll update the OP after work today.

Congrats once again to Yoko & co!
M_Night
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(03-21-2017, 02:01 AM)
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What a great turnaround over the original!
rocketskates
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(03-21-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by StrongBlackVine

Obviously a a whole fucking lot of people if you follow review threads which you obviously do. Is this a rhetorical question?

As a huge Yoko Taro fan, I obviously want the game to get reviewed well, but honestly I don't getthe all up in pitchforks mentality that people get into between an 88 and 89 or an 89 or 90. Numerical scores should be meaningless, a review should be spelled out and explained. Review outrage culture so silly nowadays.
Shahed
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(03-21-2017, 02:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Zolo

PM'd a mod to unlock this since there's only been one review on Metacritic in the last 3 days, and the Easy Allies review is up.

Easy Allies


Full review: https://easyallies.com/#!/review/nier-automata

Not a mod, but obviously don't repeat the same case of going after one negative review and certainly don't start linking to the reviewer's twitter or whatever.

Originally Posted by Audioboxer

Damn good review to open up the thread again! :D

Taro in a nutshell (quote that good its worth requoting)

The bit that stands out for me and I agree with most here is the part where they say in the past they had to accept middling technical or mechanical aspects. That rings true. As much as I liked a lot of aspects Of the first Nier and some of the Drakengards, actually playing them wasnt the best.

This game though retains what made those other games stand out. They still have the quirky yet captivating story, characters, world and amazing music. But they've married that with a game that is just brilliant to play as well.

Platinum x Yoko Taro seemed like it would he a good fit to me in theory. Both covering each other's weakness while retaining they're strengths. But I wasn't sure if it would work out like that. Thankfully it has and not only is this easily my favourite Yoko Taro game, it's also by far the best Platinum game I've played. Nier Automata is awesome and probably supercedes Bloodborne and Witcher III now as my favourite game thus far this generation. Long may this partnership continue
Samikaze
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(03-21-2017, 02:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by Shahed

Nier Automata is awesome and probably supercedes Bloodborne and Witcher III now as my favourite game thus far this generation.

Witcher 3 was my favorite by and far this generation, and I'm really, really, really close to agreeing with that statement. I'm giving the game more time to sit in my brain before I make that call, but it's getting close to toppling my beloved Witcher 3.
Shahed
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(03-21-2017, 02:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Samikaze

Witcher 3 was my favorite by and far this generation, and I'm really, really, really close to agreeing with that statement. I'm giving the game more time to sit in my brain before I make that call, but it's getting close to toppling my beloved Witcher 3.

What's funny is that while I was always going to play this at some point, I had no intention of gettibg it anytime soon or maybe even this year. But the demo blew me away. It's been a years, maybe even a decade since a demo has had that affect on me
Sub Boss
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(03-21-2017, 02:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by OniBaka

Really want to see this get goty but it's up against Zelda, horizon and red dead 2.

If Bayonetta 2 didn't get goty in 2014 this never had a chance.

Why can't be happy with 8.8
tuxfool
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(03-21-2017, 03:47 AM)

Originally Posted by Shahed

It's been a years, maybe even a decade since a demo has had that affect on me

Maybe because nobody makes demos any more ;)
OniBaka
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(03-21-2017, 03:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sub Boss

If Bayonetta 2 didn't get goty in 2014 this never had a chance.

Why can't be happy with 8.8

I'm already happy, just want to see something niche get it for once.
Samikaze
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(03-21-2017, 03:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Shahed

What's funny is that while I was always going to play this at some point, I had no intention of gettibg it anytime soon or maybe even this year. But the demo blew me away. It's been a years, maybe even a decade since a demo has had that affect on me

Same. I had absolutely 0 hype for this game.
I was a huge fan of the first one, but when I saw this reveal, I was "meh" about it. Enjoyed the demo, but it still didn't hype me up enough. Enough to buy it, but not excitedly.
I'm glad I didn't care about it ahead of time. Made the game so much more impactful.
hydrophilic attack
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Originally Posted by OniBaka

I'm already happy, just want to see something niche get it for once.

bloodborne
Vigilant Walrus
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(03-21-2017, 04:13 AM)
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How does the combat stack up against Vanquish, MGSR, Bayonetta?


Bayonetta to me was incredible smooth in how you dodged attacks. It felt so good. Been looking for combat like that ever since!
Wagram
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(03-21-2017, 04:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vigilant Walrus

How does the combat stack up against Vanquish, MGSR, Bayonetta?


Bayonetta to me was incredible smooth in how you dodged attacks. It felt so good. Been looking for combat like that ever since!

It's good, but it's not Bayonetta.
LotusHD
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(03-21-2017, 04:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Vigilant Walrus

How does the combat stack up against Vanquish, MGSR, Bayonetta?


Bayonetta to me was incredible smooth in how you dodged attacks. It felt so good. Been looking for combat like that ever since!

Feels very good to play, but it doesn't go to the exact same depths. There's a demo out if you wanna try it for yourself.
OniBaka
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(03-21-2017, 04:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by Wagram

It's good, but it's not Bayonetta.

True but the dodging is way better.
Exentryk
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(03-21-2017, 04:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vigilant Walrus

How does the combat stack up against Vanquish, MGSR, Bayonetta?


Bayonetta to me was incredible smooth in how you dodged attacks. It felt so good. Been looking for combat like that ever since!

There is a free demo on PSN to feel the combat for yourself.
BRSxIgnition
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(03-21-2017, 07:01 AM)
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Sure seems like Jim liked it.
LotusHD
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(03-21-2017, 07:02 AM)

Originally Posted by BRSxIgnition

Sure seems like Jim liked it.

No fucking lies detected, this game was something special

Seems like a 10 from him lol
OniBaka
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(03-21-2017, 07:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by BRSxIgnition

Sure seems like Jim liked it.

Haha at the response, "history forgot the first one".

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