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J@hranimo
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(03-15-2017, 09:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by reelbigtink

This doesn't change a thing. Still a top notch handheld with Nintendo games.

This.

Glad this is over and done with. Now more people can talk about upcoming games for the system. Or hell the NeoGAF past time of being armchair analysts and talking about specs instead of enjoying the games releasing by played them
Bony Manifesto
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(03-15-2017, 09:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

Doesn't the BIGlittle architecture mean it can only use the different CPU cores at different times?

That's usually how they're used, but I don't believe there's any hard technical restriction in place (though I'm open to being corrected).
nintendoman58
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(03-15-2017, 09:52 PM)
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Someone explain this to me in terms of DBZ power levels.
Interfectum
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(03-15-2017, 09:53 PM)
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Where's meh secret salsa??
AlfredX1990
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(03-15-2017, 09:53 PM)

Originally Posted by NOLA_Gaffer

Wait, why the frowny face?

Many were hoping it would be the X2 which would put the Switch significantly closer to the Xbone, meaning it would increase the possibility for 3rd party ports
Gotdatmoney
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(03-15-2017, 09:53 PM)

Originally Posted by finalflame

Absolutely disgusting. Nintendo really couldn't go for the TX2 to make the Switch not an underpowered piece of trash?

And I'm saying this as a Switch owner. I hope this bombs like the WiiU all over again. Nintendo just can't learn their lesson.

Pascal based tegra doesn't exist in mobile applications as far as I can tell. Perhaps the yields just are not good or they want to wait out a potentially smaller node size?
dampflokfreund
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(03-15-2017, 09:53 PM)

Originally Posted by NOLA_Gaffer

Not buying a console for the processor under the hood seems really weird. The games matter more than what it's running on.

That's why I bought BOTW on Wii U.

Sorry, but I am not paying 330 for old Tegra X1 hardware that isn't even customized. The Shield costs 199.
wildfire
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Hydrargyrus

Seems like all the leaks were correct (except the fan fiction thread about the foxcon leaks)


Foxcon leak was right on everything that wasn't speculation which was 90% of what they reported.
Cuburt
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Wrong thread, I guess.
heringer
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by nintendoman58

Someone explain this to me in terms of DBZ power levels.

People expected Super Saiyan 2, they got Ultra Super Saiyan.
TwistedFreeze
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by nintendoman58

Someone explain this to me in terms of DBZ power levels.

PS4: SS Goku
XB1: SS Vegeta
Switch: Piccolo

So, yeah, the gap is pretty big
RichiRamjag
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by finalflame

Absolutely disgusting. Nintendo really couldn't go for the TX2 to make the Switch not an underpowered piece of trash?

And I'm saying this as a Switch owner. I hope this bombs like the WiiU all over again. Nintendo just can't learn their lesson.

These meltdown posts are something else.
Oregano
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bony Manifesto

Yeah, I suppose background stuff in general.

Nah, it's just cheaper/easier to leave them there.
Osiris
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

Doesn't the BIGlittle architecture mean it can only use the different CPU cores at different times?

Yeah, via Cluster switching, so if you're using the A57 cores, the A53's are unavailable and visa-versa:



Those A53's are not going to be used at all, so wasted silicon really, although fortunately they are tiny so are not wasting that much die area.
guek
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by AlfredX1990

Many were hoping it would be the X2 which would put the Switch significantly closer to the Xbone, meaning it would increase the possibility for 3rd party ports

Not really. The biggest difference the X2 would have made would be in battery life.
KingSnake
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Well, thereitis.webm.

As it was most likely and expected. And as was said multiple times by Eurogamer. I hope now we can move on from the Foxconn clocks and 16nm dreams.
tapantaola
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)

Originally Posted by dampflokfreund

If you think about it. Nvidia just blatantly lied. It is in no way customized.

Phamit
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(03-15-2017, 09:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by bomblord1

So it has 4 A53's? What are they used for?

Sleepmode or non gaming stuff I guess?

If I remember correctly that's what Biglittle basically is. The more efficient cores are used to save battery
NOLA_Gaffer
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by AlfredX1990

Many were hoping it would be the X2 which would put the Switch significantly closer to the Xbone, meaning it would increase the possibility for 3rd party ports

Folks really need to understand that the "Third Parties on Nintendo Hardware" ship has sailed no matter what hardware Nintendo puts out.
Diprosalic
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by finalflame

Absolutely disgusting. Nintendo really couldn't go for the TX2 to make the Switch not an underpowered piece of trash?

And I'm saying this as a Switch owner. I hope this bombs like the WiiU all over again. Nintendo just can't learn their lesson.

i seriously can't figure out if this is a joke post or not.
Salty Hippo
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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So how many duct taped Wii Us are we talking about here?
nubbe
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by dampflokfreund

That's why I bought BOTW on Wii U.

Sorry, but I am not paying for old Tegra X1 hardware that isn't even customized. The Shield costs .

a shield run Borderlands 2 worse than a PS3
robotvendingmachine
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by nintendoman58

Someone explain this to me in terms of DBZ power levels.

PS4 = Goku
XBone = Vegeta
Switch = Gohan
frankie_baby
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Bony Manifesto

That's usually how they're used, but I don't believe there's any hard technical restriction in place (though I'm open to being corrected).

If there isnt that could make a fairly chunky difference to its CPU power

Edit - ah perhaps wishful thinking then
ckaneo
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by NOLA_Gaffer

Not buying a console for the processor under the hood seems really weird. The games matter more than what it's running on.

Yeah and a whole lot of great games won't come because of what it's running on
moltonasty
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by SinCityAssassin

Better than Wii U/PS3/X360, but still a bit further from the others

So basically exactly what everyone has been saying since forever..
Jonneh3003
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)

Originally Posted by finalflame

Absolutely disgusting. Nintendo really couldn't go for the TX2 to make the Switch not an underpowered piece of trash?

And I'm saying this as a Switch owner. I hope this bombs like the WiiU all over again. Nintendo just can't learn their lesson.

This is a little concerning.

They clearly got a good deal on X1's which is why they went with it and didn't Digital Foundry say in their video analysis of the tech that there wouldn't have been a large performance difference between an X2 and and X1?

Switch wouldn't cost the same as it does now if they went for an X2.
The Third Heat
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by molnizzle


I bet you'll see holiday Switch bundles for $249.

Why do people keep saying this? Nintendo is notoriously stingy, even during the holidays (which was why that $99 3DS was such a huge deal). You'll see bundles, but not for that price. $300 with pack in Mario Kart or Splatoon 2. No way are they gonna pack in a game AND lower the price, even for black friday.
FearlessBelgian
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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So , i have 2 switch in my home with my Nvidia Shield TV .
Seik
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(03-15-2017, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Malakai

Then why is the Switch $300 USD? What an embarrassing day to be a Nintendo fan...

You shou----

*reads tag* *click links*

Oh...ok.
bs135
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(03-15-2017, 09:56 PM)
It must have been cheaper to just leave the 4 a53 cores in there rather then take them out.
Bruce Springsteen
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(03-15-2017, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by 13ruce

So inbetween Ps3 and Xbone? Not bad.
Fine enough for me.

You realize the gap between PS3 and X1 isn't small?
ckaneo
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(03-15-2017, 09:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by NOLA_Gaffer

Folks really need to understand that the "Third Parties on Nintendo Hardware" ship has sailed no matter what hardware Nintendo puts out.

Why?
DECK'ARD
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(03-15-2017, 09:56 PM)
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Nintendo hardware is powered by Pikmin remember, so it's still custom.
Oregano
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by ckaneo

Yeah and a whole lot of great games won't come because of what it's running on

The Nvidia X1 is the still the best stock chip Nintendo could have gone with. They could have customised it but we really have no idea about the economics/feasibility of a big difference.
K' Dash
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Garrett Hawke

Troll post?

Sadly no.
robotvendingmachine
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by nubbe

a shield run Borderlands 2 worse than a PS3

It also runs android which is garbage.
HowZatOZ
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)

Originally Posted by dampflokfreund

People were expecting that the chip in the Switch was customized because, you now, Nvidia said so themselves.

Thank god I didn't bite and bought it at launch day. I would feel very betrayed right now.

Why are people feeling betrayed with gaming hardware? Does it not still play games? If everyone cared so much about hardware they'd just play PC's and we wouldn't have consoles. It was clear from the start that the Switch wasn't as powerful as the PS4, doesn't mean we suddenly stop getting games because the die has been confirmed. Some people put way too much emotion into hardware wars.
Rash
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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The Shield is $200 and doesn't come with Joy-Cons or anything else that Nintendo has included with the Switch so I guess the $300 price tag makes some sense.
Gotdatmoney
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)

Originally Posted by KingSnake

Well, thereitis.webm.

As it was most likely and expected. And as was said multiple times by Eurogamer. I hope now we can move on from the Foxconn clocks and 16nm dreams.

Did Eurogamer say it was stock? I genuinely thought that because Nvidia said the chip was custom there would be some memory adjustments.
Rodin
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
What the A53 cores are still in there? Lol

At least they can be used to run the OS so that the console can use the 4 A57 for games, right?

And what about SRAM? No way it handles games at up to 4.5x the resolution compared to Wii U with 25.6GB/s.

Originally Posted by Bruce Springsteen

You realize the gap between PS3 and X1 isn't small?

But do you realize that being between those is actually pretty crazy for a tablet sized device
d00d3n
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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Can electron microscopy really detect secret sauce?
Garrett Hawke
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Malakai

Then why is the Switch $300 USD? What an embarrassing day to be a Nintendo fan...

Remember when you claimed that the only reason 3rd parties didn't bother with Nintendo was because of a weird conspiracy

Lololol
ArmGunar
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by TwistedFreeze

PS4: SS Goku
XB1: SS Vegeta
Switch: Piccolo

So, yeah, the gap is pretty big

Like that explanation ahah
TwistedFreeze
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(03-15-2017, 09:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Third Heat

Why do people keep saying this? Nintendo is notoriously stingy, even during the holidays (which was why that $99 3DS was such a huge deal). You'll see bundles, but not for that price. $300 with pack in Mario Kart or Splatoon 2. No way are they gonna pack in a game AND lower the price, even for black friday.

If sales drop, they will absolutely do that. Why else do you think Nintendo did a quick price drop for the 3DS or even did that $100 price drop for the GameCube? They didn't do it for the Wii U because they knew that it was more or less dead in the water

Originally Posted by ArmGunar

Like that explanation ahah

Well it is quite accurate. But, hey, Piccolo was still an awesome character and I'm expecting the same from the Switch
dampflokfreund
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(03-15-2017, 09:58 PM)

Originally Posted by RichiRamjag

These meltdown posts are something else.

Ehh... I would feel the same. Nvidia said themselves its a customized Tegra, which is not the case and this is revealed after launch day so some people didn't even knew what they bought. This is misleading advertising. It is no joke. My question: How can you NOT be outrageous about this?!
newbong95
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(03-15-2017, 09:58 PM)
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this system will be easily the most hackable gaming system ever after pc .... LOL
Dynomutt
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(03-15-2017, 09:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by TwistedFreeze

PS4: SS Goku
XB1: SS Vegeta
Switch: Piccolo

So, yeah, the gap is pretty big

With or without Nail?
franklyshankly
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(03-15-2017, 09:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Rash

The Shield is $200 and doesn't come with Joy-Cons or anything else that Nintendo has included with the Switch so I guess the $300 price tag makes some sense.

I would have gladly taken a 200 dollar switch without joycons or any of the other stuff lol. That would be a no brainer day one.
SinCityAssassin
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(03-15-2017, 09:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bruce Springsteen

You realize the gap between PS3 and X1 isn't small?

A better metric has always been between Wii U and Xbox One, which I can illustrate in Arrows.

Xbox One >>>>> Switch >>> Wii U

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