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The12thGripper
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(03-28-2017, 06:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by Teggy

Is it worthwhile to grab the original DS or 3DS versions of some of the games/movies in these packages or should I just go with what's in the PS4 releases (including 2.8)?

If you really want more KH after playing everything in 1.5+2.5, then I think Re:coded is worth playing through. I had a lot of fun with it despite all the negativity it gets from the fanbase. Just know that both it and Days don't have a lot of story in them, with Re:coded's ending being the only important part of the entire game.

2.8 includes the 3DS game, Dream Drop Distance so there's no need to pick that up. seriously don't, it sucks
Teggy
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(03-28-2017, 06:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by The12thGripper


2.8 includes the 3DS game, Dream Drop Distance so there's no need to pick that up. seriously don't, it sucks

Haha, yeah, that's mostly what I was wondering - if there was any fun gameplay to be missed if you just watched the movies, or if the HD versions were significantly worse than the original handheld ones.
Kremzeek
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(03-28-2017, 06:53 AM)
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I played KH1 on PS3, and so I'm starting this with BBS.

I remember loving the combat and upgrade/ability system the best in BBS.
Plus Aqua.
Jolkien
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(03-28-2017, 06:53 AM)
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I'll try to get into this series for the second time
There no consensus wether to play in release order of according to the timeline... Not sure what to do.
The12thGripper
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(03-28-2017, 06:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jolkien

I'll try to get into this series for the second time
There no consensus wether to play in release order of according to the timeline... Not sure what to do.

Release order, 100%

Originally Posted by The Lamp

Release order, always.

Therefore:
KH1FM
KH ReCOM
KH2FM
KH 358/2 Days
KH BBS
KH Re:Coded

Then with 2.8:
KHDDD
KH X
KH 0.2

AlexFlame116
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(03-28-2017, 06:55 AM)
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I should probably relax on the Kingdom Hearts hype since I've been getting bored waiting for my copy and Kingdom Hearts III to arrive that I've started to ship certain characters together. It's bad!
Permanently A
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(03-28-2017, 06:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jolkien

I'll try to get into this series for the second time
There no consensus wether to play in release order of according to the timeline... Not sure what to do.

Actually I'm pretty sure the consensus is firmly in the release order.

Originally Posted by Permanently A

Okay look.

Kingdom Hearts 1.5

  • Kingdom Hearts 1
  • Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories
  • Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days movie

Kingdom Hearts 2.5
  • Kingdom Hearts 2
  • Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep
  • Kingdom Hearts Re Coded movie

Kingdom Hearts 2.8
  • Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance
  • Kingdom Hearts 0.2
  • Kingdom Hearts χ movie

and then finally Kingdom Hearts 3.

NOW to decipher this mess.

This is the timeline.
  1. Kingdom Hearts χ
  2. Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
  3. Kingdom Hearts 0.2
  4. Kingdom Hearts 1
  5. Kingdom Hearts Re Chain of Memories
  6. Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
  7. Kingdom Hearts 2
  8. Kingdom Hearts Re Coded
  9. Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance

To play the whole series, you need 2.8 and the upcoming March PS4 release which includes 1.5 and 2.5.

Now to play it in release (best) order:
  1. Kingdom Hearts
  2. Kingdom Hearts Re Chain of Memories
  3. Kingdom Hearts 2
  4. Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
  5. Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
  6. Kingdom Hearts Re: Coded
  7. Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance
  8. Kingdom Hearts χ
  9. Kingdom Hearts 0.2

Jolkien
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(03-28-2017, 07:19 AM)
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Release order it is then. Thanks guys
Burbeting
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(03-28-2017, 07:25 AM)
I'm still not sure if I should pre-order... the stutters worry me, since KH2FM in 60fps is my main draw to these ports.
Azuran
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(03-28-2017, 07:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by The12thGripper

If you really want more KH after playing everything in 1.5+2.5, then I think Re:coded is worth playing through. I had a lot of fun with it despite all the negativity it gets from the fanbase. Just know that both it and Days don't have a lot of story in them, with Re:coded's ending being the only important part of the entire game.

2.8 includes the 3DS game, Dream Drop Distance so there's no need to pick that up. seriously don't, it sucks

Yeah no. Dream Drop Distance may not be the best game but it's certainly far from the worse game in existence like some people in this community love to exaggerate. If someone loves Kingdom Hearts, chances are they'll probably enjoy that game more often than not.

For some reason people in this fanbase sure love telling others what not to play. I guess people forming their own opinion is considered a bad thing nowadays.
Napalm_Frank
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(03-28-2017, 07:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Burbeting

I'm still not sure if I should pre-order... the stutters worry me, since KH2FM in 60fps is my main draw to these ports.

It seems PS4pro might be stutter free if you happen to have one.
Kas
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(03-28-2017, 07:33 AM)
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Did they fix the save corruption thing? I'm looking to buy this when I get out of work in a bit and I really don't want to do so if it'll wipe my save or crash when I save.
AlexFlame116
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(03-28-2017, 07:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Azuran

Yeah no. Dream Drop Distance may not be the best game but it's certainly far from the worse game in existence like some people love to exaggerate. If someone loves Kingdom Hearts, chances are they'll probably enjoy that game more often than not.

For some reason people in this fanbase sure love telling others what not to play. I guess forming your own opinion on things is a bad thing nowadays.

You have no idea how many times I've been told by people to skip Chains of Memories cause it's awful and is not important to the plot.

I'll still try it though cause why not?
Burbeting
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(03-28-2017, 07:34 AM)

Originally Posted by Napalm_Frank

It seems PS4pro might be stutter free if you happen to have one.

Nope. Just Base PS4.
Napalm_Frank
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(03-28-2017, 07:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kas

Did they fix the save corruption thing? I'm looking to buy this when I get out of work in a bit and I really don't want to do so if it'll wipe my save or crash when I save.

There is no save corrupting, only rare chance of the game crashing when trying to save in KH2.
Tonyx
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(03-28-2017, 07:40 AM)
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Too bad for the technical issues, but it still looks like a greay buy!
KZXcellent
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(03-28-2017, 07:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Azuran

For some reason people in this fanbase sure love telling others what not to play. I guess people forming their own opinion is considered a bad thing nowadays.

It's a combination of exaggerating about how bad certain games are and trying to understate how important certain games are to the plot. It's exhausting.
hamchan
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(03-28-2017, 07:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by AlexFlame116

You have no idea how many times I've been told by people to skip Chains of Memories cause it's awful and is not important to the plot.

I'll still try it though cause why not?

Lol @ anyone who says CoM is not important to the plot.
Kas
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(03-28-2017, 07:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Napalm_Frank

There is no save corrupting, only rare chance of the game crashing when trying to save in KH2.

Okay, thank you.

Thats annoying, but I'll take it over save corruption
AlexFlame116
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(03-28-2017, 07:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by hamchan

Lol @ anyone who says CoM is not important to the plot.

Hey man that's just what I've been told! Will still play it for sure though!
desmax
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(03-28-2017, 07:58 AM)
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lmao that title

Anyway, my copy got shipped today. Don't really plan to play it at release (I don't want to start playing it and after a few days start playing Persona 5), but hopefully by the time I get to it the issues would be fixed.

I only want to play KH II again, tbh
Razmos
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(03-28-2017, 08:00 AM)
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Got it m-m-m-memorized?
Banzai
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(03-28-2017, 08:15 AM)
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Is there any hope for any SE games coming to pc anymore? There were rumours about a FFXV port, weren't there?
Just give me a quick update on this please, I don't want to derail this topic into one on portbegging.
KZXcellent
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(03-28-2017, 08:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Banzai

Is there any hope for any SE games coming to pc anymore? There were rumours about a FFXV port, weren't there?
Just give me a quick update on this please, I don't want to derail this topic into one on portbegging.

Not much on the KH front unfortunately. Tabata and the FFXV team did some tests recently with their game running on obscenely high settings for PC but no confirmation that they're actively working on a port. If XV gets a PC release it will probably be at least a year out.
R10Neymarfan
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(03-28-2017, 08:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Banzai

Is there any hope for any SE games coming to pc anymore? There were rumours about a FFXV port, weren't there?
Just give me a quick update on this please, I don't want to derail this topic into one on portbegging.

Got nothing for you. All you could do is wait and hope. Or eventually get a PS4. I'm waiting alongside you
Napalm_Frank
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(03-28-2017, 08:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Banzai

Is there any hope for any SE games coming to pc anymore? There were rumours about a FFXV port, weren't there?
Just give me a quick update on this please, I don't want to derail this topic into one on portbegging.

XV, Dragon Quest Heroes 2 and XII HD are probably your best bets.
Wesley-Sigma
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(03-28-2017, 08:19 AM)
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Going to get this tomorrow for my roommate.

I only want to play KHII FM anyway.
Banzai
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(03-28-2017, 08:20 AM)
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Too bad. Thanks, guys. I guess I'll just wait for some 1.5+2.5+2.8 bundle and get it for PS4.
z4chc3na
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(03-28-2017, 08:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by MAtgS

KH1. I was 1 trophy away from a plat and now they've nerfed that trophy.

Which trophy?
bigbaldwolf86
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(03-28-2017, 08:27 AM)
So hyped for this. Only ever played the first one on PS2 so I get to see most of this collection for the first time.
AlexFlame116
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(03-28-2017, 08:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Banzai

Too bad. Thanks, guys. I guess I'll just wait for some 1.5+2.5+2.8 bundle and get it for PS4.

Not trying to butt in but you should for sure get those games and a PS4. It's really a one of a kind experience. Even more if you love Disney.
Irishonion
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(03-28-2017, 08:32 AM)
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Just wondering possible to transfer saves from PS3, like final fantasy x remastere was able to do?
Banzai
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(03-28-2017, 08:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by AlexFlame116

Not trying to butt in but you should for sure get those games and a PS4. It's really a one of a kind experience. Even more if you love Disney.

I agree, I mean I already own the originals of all these games and a PS4 :). Having them all in one place would be nice, though. Even if it won't be on pc.
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(03-28-2017, 08:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Irishonion

Just wondering possible to transfer saves from PS3, like final fantasy x remastere was able to do?

No.
MAtgS
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(03-28-2017, 08:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by z4chc3na

Which trophy?

Gummi ship blueprint collector. Before it required clearing nigh-impossible gummi missions that were not in the vanilla release. Now its just get 30 blueprints which could be collected just from killing enemies.
KZXcellent
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(03-28-2017, 08:38 AM)
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Originally Posted by MAtgS

Gummi ship blueprint collector. Before it required clearing nigh-impossible gummi missions that were not in the vanilla release. Now its just get 30 blueprints which could be collected just from killing enemies.

YES. I couldn't bring myself to get that.
AlexFlame116
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(03-28-2017, 08:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Irishonion

Just wondering possible to transfer saves from PS3, like final fantasy x remastere was able to do?

Don't I wish. Don't I wish. I'm not looking forward to playing KH1 and getting all the recipes for the Ultima Weapon and fighting all the secret bosses over again at all.

Originally Posted by Banzai

I agree, I mean I already own the originals of all these games and a PS4 :). Having them all in one place would be nice, though. Even if it won't be on pc.

Oh! Oops sorry I thought you never played them! My bad!

But at least you know what I mean about the experience then haha!
TEJ
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(03-28-2017, 08:40 AM)
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Thank you for the new avatar!

Anyway, if you've played both on ps3 are these trophies completely new, or is it like ffx/x2 remastered where the ps3 trophies are the ps4 ones? Meaning you dont need to reearn them?
jrcbandit
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(03-28-2017, 08:40 AM)
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I had this pre-ordered, but I don't trust Square Enix to fix the stuttering issue so I cancelled it. Wonder how long it will take if ever?
desmax
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(03-28-2017, 08:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by TEJ

Thank you for the new avatar!

Anyway, if you've played both on ps3 are these trophies completely new, or is it like ffx/x2 remastered where the ps3 trophies are the ps4 ones? Meaning you dont need to reearn them?

New trophy list
Napalm_Frank
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(03-28-2017, 08:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by TEJ

Thank you for the new avatar!

Anyway, if you've played both on ps3 are these trophies completely new, or is it like ffx/x2 remastered where the ps3 trophies are the ps4 ones? Meaning you dont need to reearn them?

They are new, they changed some trophies.
TEJ
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(03-28-2017, 08:42 AM)
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Cool, thanks!

Got get on reearnimg those trophies then :D
Lightning
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(03-28-2017, 08:48 AM)
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I will play them all except Chain of Memories. Fuck that card system.

Having to plat them again though I will need to think on that. Especially the BbS trophies cause fuck some of those trophies are insane and time consuming.

Really can't wait to get started though. Going to be a blast once again!
Napalm_Frank
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(03-28-2017, 08:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by Lightning

I will play them all except Chain of Memories. Fuck that card system.

Ur avatar doe.
AlexFlame116
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(03-28-2017, 08:53 AM)
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I must be the only one not excited about getting some of the trophies again.

Originally Posted by Lightning

I will play them all except Chain of Memories. Fuck that card system.



EDIT: Dang it Napalm.
Rob2K19
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(03-28-2017, 09:24 AM)
As stated before, the recommended order is release order:

KH1 FM
Re:Chain of Memories
KH2 FM
358/2 Days
Birth by Sleep FM
Re:Coded
Dream Drop Distance
X[chi] series (X / Unchained X (Unchained X is rebranded as Union X) / Back Cover)
0.2 Birth by Sleep
KH3

Important facts.

1. Read the Ansem reports. They are backstory.

2. All the games are important, even though Tetsuya Nomura did say Chain of Memories can be skipped (unlike Coded) back in 2004 in regards to only playing KH2, but still needed to get the full story of the series. The V-Cast game was not made by Tetsuya Nomura and Square Enix. It doesn't exist.

3. Birth by Sleep is a "main and numbered title" game just like KH1 and 2. It was originally going to be a PS2, but things happened, so it moved to PSP in the end. It was referred to as "Episode 0" back during it's original release. It is now called "0.1" due to the director, Tetsuya Nomura, backpedaling after he said he wouldn't go further into the past, which is X[chi]. Also, the recommended play order is Terra, Ven, Aqua, but you can choose what you want.

4. Dream Drop Distance is a main game in terms of story, but overall, it does not move the story enough to be a numbered title game.

5. X[chi] on PC browsers is exclusive to Japan. Unchained X on mobile was made to get the game overseas just like Re:Coded (Coded is a mobile game) on DS. It almost has the same story, but skips and deviates from the story of X on PC browsers. Further explanation in the guide below. X Back Cover is told from a certain groups perspective (X and Unchained are told from the players) during the story of X and Unchained. You can watch it after X on PC browsers (guide below).Union X is the rebranded version and continuation of Unchained.

6. Playing the games are just one part of the story. To get the full lore not explained in the games and fun facts, you need to read Ultimania, Famitsu, Dengeki, etc. interviews. That's exclusive to Japan, obviously. Much like Final Fantasy and any other Japanese series.

7. 0.2 Birth by Sleep is the prologue of KH3. It was taken out of KH3 due to the increase of content in KH3 and Nomura felt he didn't want to ruin the pacing of the story with a long prologue for fans. You'll know what he means when you play a certain KH game.

8. Re:Coded in 2.5 has a new scene that spoils Dream Drop Distance. It is unlocked in theater mode after you watch the whole movie. Of course, since the collections cater to older fans than new, Nomura didn't give a damn. lol

X[chi] guide:

Since many people don't feel like playing a mobile game. Here's the main and side story cutscenes of X on PC browsers and Unchained X. Everything is in order in the link. Close to 2 hours of cutscenes. lol

Main story: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...mxxMHX7YHE4WP2

Side story (only the 3rd and 4th video are necessary to watch): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...ynpL6WRdR9hzB9

Note: The story of X (Now on Union X) hasn't ended yet so the playlist will be update when new story is release. You'll spoil yourself if you look at every video before you watch it. Just start from the first video.

Welcome to a game series that is not for children.
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(03-28-2017, 09:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Rob2K19


8. Re:Coded in 2.5 has a new scene that spoils Dream Drop Distance. There are 3 scenes after the credits. Only watch the first 2. Of course, since the collections cater to older fans than new, Nomura didn't give a damn. lol

Having not really played much of the side games, thanks. Would you recommend DDD before Re:Coded if something gets spoiled in it, or is Re:Coded still preferred before DDD? AKA Should I just watch the first 2 after credits scenes and come back, or just do DDD first?
desmax
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(03-28-2017, 09:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by tensuke

Having not really played much of the side games, thanks. Would you recommend DDD before Re:Coded if something gets spoiled in it, or is Re:Coded still preferred before DDD? AKA Should I just watch the first 2 after credits scenes and come back, or just do DDD first?

The new scene in Coded doesn't play in the movie by itself (At least from my experience on the PS3), I believe you actually have to go to the chapter select after finishing it to be able to see it.

So you can watch it, no problem
Cyborg
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(03-28-2017, 09:59 AM)
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If you never played a KH game. Is this the purchase to start with?
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Originally Posted by Cyborg

If you never played a KH game. Is this the purchase to start with?

Yes, very much so. After you've gotten through everything in this, you'll only need (well, "need" is a relative term...) KH2.8 anymore and you'll be set for KHIII.

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