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RedZaraki
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(02-17-2017, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shmuppers

Thanks a ton guys. Is CoD not a tank unit? What is she then?

She is Hybrid of Physical DPS and Utility. Her best move is the Resist Elements move and Comeback. Her Physical DPS is good but there are other specialists who will do more ultimately.
Pejo
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(02-17-2017, 05:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by robertsan21

So is Emperor any good?

Was just looking myself, since I had done zero research on him.

Looks like down the road, enhancements make him strong over long fights, but he's worse than Exdeath and Dark Fina on normal fights since he has no native access to non-elemental spells.

His fire skill can get up to like 3000% damage though, after successive uses, and he can buff his own MAG by 100% and debuff your team and all enemies spirit by 50% later.

Probably fun for arena and trials, but not sure if he'd outdo Exdeath normally without wind-up rounds.

I like him in my case though, as I don't feel like bringing MAG buff characters with me all the time, so at least he can buff himself (at a cost to the team, sadly). It also makes 1 round KOs tough as he really needs time to shine.

Anyways, based on what I saw on the wiki and read on the JP version, those are my thoughts right now.
shintoki
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(02-17-2017, 05:14 PM)
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Remember when every said Luka ain't worth it. Ability ain't not Magic.

Bow to your new goddess, aka listen to Shouta.
H3xum
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(02-17-2017, 05:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by robertsan21

So is Emperor any good?

JP is setting the table for a meta shift. From physical DPS and DW units to DH, Magic, and Ailments. I think Emperor is good now but will be viewed as very good later as the aforementioned progresses

I know that is far in the future, but, doesn't everyone playing this game just play for the future anyway?
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Muku
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(02-17-2017, 05:16 PM)
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Guys, according to the banner info in-game, it says it ends 2/22 23:59 PST..... it isn't here a second week. At least if we're to believe what it says under the banner in-game.
Syntsui
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(02-17-2017, 05:19 PM)
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Fuck Luka, this is Tilith time to shine, she is just warming up to break the meta in her 6*.

Originally Posted by Muku

Guys, according to the banner info in-game, it says it ends 2/22 23:59 PST..... it isn't here a second week. At least if we're to believe what it says under the banner in-game.

I knew I wasn't crazy, people have to pull if they want easy access to one of the best TMs of the entire game. Gumi is an evil genius.
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Brunire
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(02-17-2017, 05:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by shintoki

Remember when every said Luka ain't worth it. Ability ain't not Magic.

Bow to your new goddess, aka listen to Shouta.

Yes. Luka was MVP on the dreadnought, fo sho.

Originally Posted by Syntsui

I knew I wasn't crazy, people have to pull if they want easy access to one of the best TMs of the entire game. Gumi is an evil genius.

Haven't been around lately, I assume you mean Leon's TMR?
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Ourobolus
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(02-17-2017, 05:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Syntsui

Fuck Luka, this is Tilith time to shine, she is just warming up to break the meta in her 6*.


I knew I wasn't crazy, people have to pull if they want easy access to one of the best TMs of the entire game. Gumi is an evil genius.

Which TM is that?
EDarkness
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(02-17-2017, 05:26 PM)

Originally Posted by Syntsui

Fuck Luka, this is Tilith time to shine, she is just warming up to break the meta in her 6*.


I knew I wasn't crazy, people have to pull if they want easy access to one of the best TMs of the entire game. Gumi is an evil genius.

Leon will still be there after the banner ends and the pool of 4* base units isn't super huge, so the chance of getting him may work out to being about the same as it is currently. Of course, who knows what the next batch of units will be outside of Olive. I'll get him eventually, so no rush for me.
Muku
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(02-17-2017, 05:27 PM)
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I dunno if I'd call a banner "easy access". Lately these banners have spewed some of the bottom barrel shit units. I'm going on fact that I'll get them later. Because, realistically, I get them much later than the banner they tend to be on. I want Leon... but he's going to have to be an off banner pull.

Also, I just don't have the mages for ELT. I gathered what small, pathetic group I had, but it wasn't enough. Exdeath is my best but he can't solo that shit. If I had Emp or Dark Fina I imagine it would be an easier affair.
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Pachimari
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(02-17-2017, 05:28 PM)
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Should I sell off all of my candy now since I can't earn more of them? And can I only exchange candy at the mog king?
Syntsui
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(02-17-2017, 05:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ourobolus

Which TM is that?

Leon's TM: Increase ATK (30%) when equipped with a sword and (20%) when equipped with a heavy armor
Muku
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(02-17-2017, 05:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pachimari

Should I sell off all of my candy now since I can't earn more of them? And can I only exchange candy at the mog king?

For a week after it finishes you can keep turning in any Candy for goodies left on him. Only sell them if you want NOTHING else on it or don't have enough to get what you want. Though buying the small items in beginning is a good way to build up stock.

Yes, only way to exchange Candy is with that greedy little, cavity ridden fur bag.
Ourobolus
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(02-17-2017, 05:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Syntsui

Leon's TM: Increase ATK (30%) when equipped with a sword and (20%) when equipped with a heavy armor

Oh, that stacks? Jesus. Ok, time to hope for a Leon.
creid
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(02-17-2017, 05:32 PM)
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Thanks to whoever pointed out that Mog King currency sells for big money, I've now got an extra million gil for whenever enhancements finally hit.
Syntsui
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(02-17-2017, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ourobolus

Oh, that stacks? Jesus. Ok, time to hope for a Leon.

We need confirmation on that, Gumi may have fucked it over on Global.
Hippopuncher12
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(02-17-2017, 05:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ourobolus

Oh, that stacks? Jesus. Ok, time to hope for a Leon.

It stacks as in you can get both bonuses but you can't stack more than 1 materia just like Dark Finas.
H3xum
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(02-17-2017, 05:37 PM)
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So how hard is Gilgamesh trial going to plow me without any 5* bases?

I am not going to be able to do it, I presume?
Ourobolus
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(02-17-2017, 05:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hippopuncher12

It stacks as in you can get both bonuses but you can't stack more than 1 materia just like Dark Finas.

That's what I meant. Wearing both.
Advocatus Diaboli
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(02-17-2017, 05:38 PM)
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So many troll golds... I need to dip into lapis to try for Leon, don't I? Tickets exhausted. But I respect the business practices here, I suppose.
Kanik
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(02-17-2017, 05:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by creid

Thanks to whoever pointed out that Mog King currency sells for big money, I've now got an extra million gil for whenever enhancements finally hit.

That was legit great advice. May never have money problems again.
robertsan21
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(02-17-2017, 05:40 PM)
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HOLY SHIT
just pulled a 4 star Leon.
Razmos
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(02-17-2017, 05:45 PM)
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14 pulls.
13 trash blues and a Leon.

Not even surprised.
Ourobolus
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(02-17-2017, 05:46 PM)
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speak of the devil - half price pull.



ok i'm done with this banner
robotuw
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(02-17-2017, 05:48 PM)
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So glad about the crystal news. Even reasoning it through with Lyrian I still can't quite believe it. The daily was Guy and that's probably all I'll pull from this banner since Leon's TM doesn't really fit into my team. That means I'll never have a troll rainbow. Glorious day!
jnWake
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(02-17-2017, 05:55 PM)
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When you have two 10% materias that stack, does that mean you get 21% (1.1*1.1) or 20%?

EDIT: 2.0 version looks cool. Love the QoL changes.
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AdawgDaFAB
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(02-17-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by jnWake

When you have two 10% materias that stack, does that mean you get 21% (1.1*1.1) or 20%?

20%. It's calculated from the base stat, not the enhanced stat.

Ex: 150 Base ATK = +15 ATK from each 10% ATK materia rather than +15 and +16.5.
Pachimari
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(02-17-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Muku

For a week after it finishes you can keep turning in any Candy for goodies left on him. Only sell them if you want NOTHING else on it or don't have enough to get what you want. Though buying the small items in beginning is a good way to build up stock.

Yes, only way to exchange Candy is with that greedy little, cavity ridden fur bag.

Alright, I'll just sell off the 86 candy I got left.
Shouta
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(02-17-2017, 06:10 PM)
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Next JP event isn't until the 23rd because of the problems with it. I guess I got a full week of TM farming, lol.
Chinner
(02-17-2017, 06:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shouta

Next JP event isn't until the 23rd because of the problems with it. I guess I got a full week of TM farming, lol.

I thought tm grinding in JPN was not a thing?
Lyrian
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(02-17-2017, 06:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Syntsui

We need confirmation on that, Gumi may have fucked it over on Global.

Originally Posted by Hippopuncher12

It stacks as in you can get both bonuses but you can't stack more than 1 materia just like Dark Finas.

Hippo is right here.

The two components stack with each other, but multiple materias will not stack.

Still, it's a nice faux second Blade Mastery on the right units.
Valentus
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(02-17-2017, 06:25 PM)
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Well, it wasnt hard. ELT clear with all achievements. No base 5, no tmr, Lyrian Exdeath friend!

Im uploading the video now. I really expect Lyrian analysis because if its true that i didnt lost control of the fight ever, i have serious calls in losing the no-death achievement.
jasminlovesyoux
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(02-17-2017, 06:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Valentus

Well, it wasnt hard. ELT clear with all achievements. No base 5, no tmr, Lyrian Exdeath friend!

Im uploading the video now. I really expect Lyrian analysis because if its true that i didnt lost control of the fight ever, i have serious calls in losing the no-death achievement.

I gotta see this to believe it. I just completed elt and the boss is so insanely tanky.
mstevens
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(02-17-2017, 06:29 PM)
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The only 4* I've chased before now was Luka, and that took me awhile. What are the rates for Leon? I don't want to burn through my whole stash for him, but his TM seems really good.

Oh man.. these UI changes are going to mess up my macro aren't they?
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Alkez
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(02-17-2017, 06:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lyrian

Broken clock is right twice a day, lol?

I was right on the crystal change is happening AND Marie was bumped up to make room for a new Global Exclusive 5*? Feeling better about my RL interview next week.

Heh, maybe I am heading into the right profession after all.


Even if the draw rates are still garbage for rainbows, the sheer number of true gold crystals will inflate power creep considerably on Global. I'm ok with this personally, especially if any rainbow will at least be a true rainbow for TM farming purposes.

You should give yourself more credit lol. Your thesis was sound. I was shocked they went the whole way but you convinced me at least the 4* change was happening. May I ask what profession you're attempting to go into?

Personally I welcome the inevitable power creep. I've said it a few times but the last time I felt challenged by this game was the plant trial, and I have no 5* bases.
shintoki
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(02-17-2017, 06:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lyrian

Broken clock is right twice a day, lol?

I was right on the crystal change is happening AND Marie was bumped up to make room for a new Global Exclusive 5*? Feeling better about my RL interview next week.

Heh, maybe I am heading into the right profession after all.

That's right, you hand at 12 all day.

-_-
robertsan21
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(02-17-2017, 06:45 PM)
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can somoene explain to me what is wrong with the current Crystal? and what will the NEW one improve on?
Ourobolus
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(02-17-2017, 06:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by robertsan21

can somoene explain to me what is wrong with the current Crystal? and what will the NEW one improve on?

Ok

Current:

If you pull a gold or rainbow crystal, there's a chance that you will roll a 4 or 5-star version of a 3-star base (like pulling a 4* Maria if you get a gold crystal)

Future:
A gold crystal will always roll a 4* base (so Maria couldn't be pulled since she is a 3* base), and a rainbow can only roll 5* bases.
Prototype
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(02-17-2017, 06:59 PM)
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Nice, pull of the day 4*Leon good stuff
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(02-17-2017, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chinner

I thought tm grinding in JPN was not a thing?

Not that many people do it in JP, I think? I do it once and awhile when I have no other events to do.
Alkez
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(02-17-2017, 07:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shouta

Not that many people do it in JP, I think? I do it once and awhile when I have no other events to do.

How come?
robertsan21
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(02-17-2017, 07:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ourobolus

Ok

Current:

If you pull a gold or rainbow crystal, there's a chance that you will roll a 4 or 5-star version of a 3-star base (like pulling a 4* Maria if you get a gold crystal)

Future:
A gold crystal will always roll a 4* base (so Maria couldn't be pulled since she is a 3* base), and a rainbow can only roll 5* bases.

wow this is huge!

thanks for this and now I do understand the hype for it in this thread :)
Zero-ELEC
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(02-17-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Man, the Crystal update can't come soon enough. Just got a troll gold crystal.
Vashetti
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(02-17-2017, 07:25 PM)
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We'll all be cursing this crystal update when it turns out it drastically increases the chances of getting a Blue, and cuts the chances of getting a Gold or Rainbow.
jasminlovesyoux
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(02-17-2017, 07:27 PM)
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Like someone else said, troll golds are insanely common. Troll rainbows happen of course but not at the rate we get those fake ass 3* golds.

I'm curious about something, a long time back in this forum, someone mentioned getting trust moogles or trust moogle equivalents on a certain banner. Like you do an 11 pull and get bonus TM gaining things. They said they were also specific to certain TMs. My question is , are we coming up on this? I will seriously drop money if it means maxing out TMs.
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(02-17-2017, 07:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Alkez

How come?

because doing it on emulators is a pain in the ass and most people don't use PCs.

It also fucks with your sense of progression in the game tbh, lol
EDarkness
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(02-17-2017, 07:38 PM)

Originally Posted by Shouta

because doing it on emulators is a pain in the ass and most people don't use PCs.

It also fucks with your sense of progression in the game tbh, lol

I guess they just spend Trust Moogles on the units they like instead of farming for TM points?
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(02-17-2017, 07:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by EDarkness

I guess they just spend Trust Moogles on the units they like instead of farming for TM points?

Yeah, Trust Moogles or dupes on the TMs they want. You get basically 20% worth of moogles or so per event nowadays.if they farm TM points, it'll probably be manually.

The content isn't designed to require multiple a boatload of TMs, aside from like Aigaion, so folks are able to clear it with just a few important ones as they grow with the game.
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Originally Posted by Shouta

Yeah, Trust Moogles or dupes on the TMs they want. You get basically 20% worth of moogles or so per event nowadays.if they farm TM points, it'll probably be manually.

The content isn't designed to require multiple a boatload of TMs, aside from like Aigaion, so folks are able to clear it with just a few important ones as they grow with the game.

This actually sounds healthier... :-/
EDarkness
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(02-17-2017, 08:13 PM)

Originally Posted by Shouta

Yeah, Trust Moogles or dupes on the TMs they want. You get basically 20% worth of moogles or so per event nowadays.if they farm TM points, it'll probably be manually.

The content isn't designed to require multiple a boatload of TMs, aside from like Aigaion, so folks are able to clear it with just a few important ones as they grow with the game.

To be honest, this is how I've been doing it. I just don't want to spend a whole lot of time doing TMR farming. I have one Dual Wield and going to have a Rising Sun in a couple of days (I hope). I'm just going to follow the plan you mentioned above and let the dominoes fall where they will. Too much work to do otherwise.

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