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MCD250
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(02-17-2017, 05:28 PM)
Every Balrog comeback is cMK > cMK.

Every Laura comeback is sMK > V-Trigger.

Every Urien comeback is cMK > V-Trigger. Sometimes it's just wakeup V-Trigger.
mbpm1
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(02-17-2017, 05:32 PM)
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FOOTSIES

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exDTaMMXgqo
mnz
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(02-17-2017, 05:33 PM)
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There are totally Balrog st.hk and overhead comebacks, too. Come on!
CountBlack
(02-17-2017, 05:35 PM)
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this man has a family


looking back, dudley's frame data was ridiculous, dude was a walking butwhy.gif sign
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Originally Posted by mbpm1

FOOTSIES

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exDTaMMXgqo


I want one now.
Mr. X
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(02-17-2017, 05:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by CountBlack

this man has a family


looking back, dudley's frame data was ridiculous, dude was a walking butwhy.gif sign

He needed it
mbpm1
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(02-17-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by CountBlack

this man has a family


looking back, dudley's frame data was ridiculous, dude was a walking butwhy.gif sign

People say everything is positive for Cammy or Rog now, but Dudley back then had a -1 on block 15 frame comboable overhead.

Still a better character
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(02-17-2017, 06:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by mbpm1

FOOTSIES

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exDTaMMXgqo

Hold up...

That was a real ad

Ucchedavāda
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(02-17-2017, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by mbpm1

FOOTSIES

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exDTaMMXgqo

Makes you wonder what you could advertise using SFV .. The Trump presidency?


EDIT: Anyone in Europe want to play some matches?
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LuciusAxelrod
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(02-17-2017, 06:21 PM)
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I'm so frustrated by Urien. How normals feel so suffocating sometimes.
Here's a match I had last night in ranked against a Uren: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNfKLWCW3Nw
There were a couple points in the set when I would have won the match if I had cancelled into Super but I choked. Does anyone have any advice for me? Am I doing too many hooligans? Is there a good button I'm not utilizing enough? I feel like I'm plateauing.
lucebuce12
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(02-17-2017, 06:29 PM)
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Nah, THIS is footsies: https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/s...22159105101824
FluxWaveZ
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(02-17-2017, 06:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by LuciusAxelrod

I'm so frustrated by Urien. How normals feel so suffocating sometimes.
Here's a match I had last night in ranked against a Uren: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNfKLWCW3Nw
There were a couple points in the set when I would have won the match if I had cancelled into Super but I choked. Does anyone have any advice for me? Am I doing too many hooligans? Is there a good button I'm not utilizing enough? I feel like I'm plateauing.

Heh, now that's a familiar Urien player.

Can't feel too bad about losing to him at this point, he's pretty good. From watching a couple of minutes, I think you need to sharpen your pressure significantly, since you play Cammy. Frame traps and block strings are very important for her, and combining that with a deceptive throw game and shimmies. What you seem to be doing instead is pressing a few plus on block buttons, and then backing up for some reason. You shouldn't be giving anyone that space, especially not Urien. It's about being relentless: Cammy's the one who can be suffocating when she gets in that range.

Learn her frame data if you haven't. st.MP is +3. cr.MP is 5f startup and is +1.

Also, yes, you're doing her EX spinning air thing which goes into that +2 sweep thing too much. You're spending too much time in the air at close ranges, in general.

Edit: Like, you'll often do a st.MP/cr.MP frame trap ending with st.HP, which actually connects, and then you immediately cancel that into Hooligan for some reason. That's not good at all. You need to practice confirms in Training mode into Spiral Arrow, or just not canceling into anything since it's better for it to hit and you staying grounded instead of doing that same predictable pattern which isn't actually that tricky and is unsafe.

See, like at 6:30, you activate V-Trigger, land a cr.MK and then... you Hooligan, letting him escape and abandoning your entire pressure. That could have instead lead to a large amount of damage. It's a really bad habit you've got there.
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mnz
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(02-17-2017, 06:34 PM)
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One thing that's not really being mentioned about Urien a lot if how crazy good his dash is. Without it, a character like your Cammy would have a much better time in the neutral. Look at home many times he dashes forward and presses a relatively slow button. I guess you could anticipate it and do cr.mp outside of his footsie range.
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(02-17-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by lucebuce12

Nah, THIS is footsies: https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/s...22159105101824

Infil always lewd
Showing his ankles like that
BadWolf
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(02-17-2017, 06:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by lucebuce12

Nah, THIS is footsies: https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/s...22159105101824

lmao

I'm guessing that's his response to Daigo messing up the parry at Topanga League.

He got destroyed there but could at least have ended up with a classic moment with that parry.
Pachinko
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(02-17-2017, 06:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zombegoast

Street Fighter V is the only game that allows people to farm and ruin everybody else day. Capcom is focus on making it hard to earn fight money that they overlook of simply using Turbo on St.LK and let matchmaking do it's thing.

I wonder how this game will be after SFVI comes out. Will they shutdown the server and the game becomes impossible to play with DLC characters inaccessible? Or is it going to be just as bad as it is right now with the server errors?

Okay dude , just take a breath and step away for a second. Sf4's online is still turned on over a year after SFVs release so I can imagine near the end of SFV's life Capcom , at worst might patch in peer to peer only online and allow people to upgrade their game to a "final master" edition ... this won't happen for a good long while though. We have 3 seasons of SFV left and probably 2-3 years after that before online interactions might become an issue.
Sayad
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(02-17-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:


LuciusAxelrod
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(02-17-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by FluxWaveZ

...

Thanks for the advice. You're right, I have too many bad habits. Bad habits just seem like the hardest thing to train away, you know? It's just something I do without even thinking about it at this point and to get rid of it I have to learn to think about it again. I might have to implement some applied behavior analysis on myself to get around this.
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(02-17-2017, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by lucebuce12

Nah, THIS is footsies: https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/s...22159105101824

😂😂😂
lucebuce12
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(02-17-2017, 06:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sayad

Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:

You'd think with how much real stuff there is to bitch about, one wouldn't have to make stuff up or nitpick.
CountBlack
(02-17-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sayad

Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:

I mean.. just by watching her for a bit I saw a few normals that reminded me of others. I didn't watch the video but from memory I saw her share a similar animation to; Karin's cr.MP, her fwd.MK being Laura's overhead, Sweep being Guile's sweep but I'll let that slide, her cr.MK kinda reminds me of Mika's cr.LK but a lot slower ofc

wouldn't be surprised to see some recycled animations for the newer characters going forward tbh
mbpm1
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(02-17-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sayad

Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:

I thought it was Elena's overhead

make it as good as Elena's overhead capcom
Reizo Ryuu
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(02-17-2017, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sayad

Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:

All walking animations are recycled too, all feet move back and forth.
Edzi
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(02-17-2017, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by CountBlack

I mean.. just by watching her for a bit I saw a few normals that reminded me of others. I didn't watch the video but from memory I saw her share a similar animation to; Karin's cr.MP, her fwd.MK being Laura's overhead, Sweep being Guile's sweep but I'll let that slide, her cr.MK kinda reminds me of Mika's cr.LK but a lot slower ofc

wouldn't be surprised to see some recycled animations for the newer characters going forward tbh

They're not technically recycled, but they're definitely similar to a lot of moves we already have in the cast. That st. MK is shared by like 4 characters at this point.
Ryce
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(02-17-2017, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by CountBlack

I mean.. just by watching her for a bit I saw a few normals that reminded me of others. I didn't watch the video but from memory I saw her share a similar animation to; Karin's cr.MP, her fwd.MK being Laura's overhead, Sweep being Guile's sweep but I'll let that slide, her cr.MK kinda reminds me of Mika's cr.LK but a lot slower ofc

wouldn't be surprised to see some recycled animations for the newer characters going forward tbh

With 20+ characters, certain animations are going to coincidentally resemble others no matter what. There are only so many ways for a martial artist to perform a jab or a low kick or a sweep. The problem comes when people blame those similarities on laziness and accuse Capcom of recycling animations. I have a pretty good eye for finer details, and Kolin doesn't have a single recycled animation in her move set. I'm sure of it.
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(02-17-2017, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

All walking animations are recycled too, all feet move back and forth.

Don't even get me started with Akuma. Straight up reskin of Ryu smh
MrCarter
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(02-17-2017, 07:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sayad

Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:

He's a cool guy but bores me to sleep half the time. Talks way too much about way too little. Capcom are not NRS whereby they will recycle animations from one game and use it in another.
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TheSpoiler
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(02-17-2017, 07:07 PM)
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Why do all the DPs of the shotos look the same. WTF?
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Originally Posted by TheSpoiler

Why do all the DPs of the shotos look the same. WTF?

why doesn't akuma's regular DP have a black shade :(
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mooncakes
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Originally Posted by Sayad

Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:

she also seem to have Cammy's Standing MK.
Ucchedavāda
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(02-17-2017, 07:16 PM)
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There's probably a Necalli out there who thinks that I just rage-quit on them. Lost the connection during our 3rd, final match, just after they had KO'd me in a one-sided first round. I wanted that fight :(
mbpm1
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(02-17-2017, 07:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by CountBlack

why isn't akuma's regular DP have a black shade :(

No invincibility
Gr1mLock
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(02-17-2017, 07:21 PM)
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I miss the shadow trails behind supers effect.
King Awesome
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(02-17-2017, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gr1mLock

I miss the shadow trails behind supers effect.

Wait until Yun and Yang make it into SFV in 2022.
Producer
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(02-17-2017, 07:26 PM)
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Anyone wanna play for a bit?

Cfn 765production
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Originally Posted by Producer

Anyone wanna play for a bit?

Cfn 765production

I can play. Hopping on now.
Kashiwaba
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(02-17-2017, 08:21 PM)
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My ps+ expired today but somehow Sony is offering free online play this week that's nice :)
hey_it's_that_dog
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(02-17-2017, 08:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sayad

Man, I get that the game has a lot of faults, but some people just let themselves go when attacking it. According to Vesperarcade, recycled Laura animation for Kolin's overhead, omg so lazy:

They're obviously different. Laura's lets you look down her top and Kolin's lets you look up her skirt.
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Originally Posted by hey_it's_that_dog

They're obviously different. Laura's lets you look down her top and Kolin's lets you look up her skirt.

#priorities
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(02-17-2017, 08:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by hey_it's_that_dog

They're obviously different. Laura's lets you look down her top and Kolin's lets you look up her skirt.

Capcom knows its audience well... Her first idle stance when she's hunched over lookes like Mika's too.
mbpm1
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(02-17-2017, 08:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by direct_quote

Capcom knows its audience well... Her first idle stance when she's hunched over lookes like Mika's too.

The Ultimate Waifu

Mika's stance
Karin's blonde features
Laura's overhead
Zangief's accent
hey_it's_that_dog
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i think her target combo is very Ibuki-ish.
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Originally Posted by lucebuce12

Nah, THIS is footsies: https://twitter.com/INFILTRATION85/s...22159105101824

This is some bullshit Infil.


Daigo didn't mess up because parrying was too difficult for him.


We'll be back Infil. Shit isn't over.
MCD250
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(02-17-2017, 08:35 PM)

Originally Posted by direct_quote

Capcom knows its audience well... Her first idle stance when she's hunched over lookes like Mika's too.

Originally Posted by mbpm1

The Ultimate Waifu

Mika's stance
Karin's blonde features
Laura's overhead
Zangief's accent

Originally Posted by hey_it's_that_dog

i think her target combo is very Ibuki-ish.

She has Cammy's pantslessness too.


Capcom officially creatively bankrupt.
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(02-17-2017, 08:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by KidA Seven

This is some bullshit Infil.


Daigo didn't mess up because parrying was too difficult for him.


We'll be back Infil. Shit isn't over.

we? ddr squad on deck
Ucchedavāda
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(02-17-2017, 08:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by mbpm1

The Ultimate Waifu

Mika's stance
Karin's blonde features
Laura's overhead
Zangief's accent

Poison's win-pose (kinda).
allintospace
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(02-17-2017, 08:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by MrCarter

He's a cool guy but bores me to sleep half the time. Talks way too much about way too little.

I thought I was the only one who thought this, what a relief. I unsubscibed from Vesp recently as he drags out videos on the smallest and insignificant shit, usually days after the rest of the web (GAF) has exhausted discussion on the same issue. Maxamillion is another I got sick of very quickly.
King Awesome
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Originally Posted by allintospace

I thought I was the only one who thought this, what a relief. I unsubscibed from Vesp recently as he drags out videos on the smallest and insignificant shit, usually days after the rest of the web (GAF) has exhausted discussion on the same issue. Maxamillion is another I got sick of very quickly.

I like Vesper and he did a great job dissecting early SFV footage when we had almost no info on how the game worked but I literally did fall asleep last night watching his 3rd Kolin breakdown. I appreciate the effort, though. If I want to find out all about a new character but don't want to dig through dozens of forum posts Vesper is a gpod option.
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Originally Posted by BlitzKeeg

Don't even get me started with Akuma. Straight up reskin of Ryu smh



Originally Posted by Gr1mLock

I miss the shadow trails behind supers effect.

Real talk, shadow trails are like my favorite thing in any game.

Yun will be in season 3 and he'll be top tier.
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MrCarter
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Originally Posted by allintospace

I thought I was the only one who thought this, what a relief. I unsubscibed from Vesp recently as he drags out videos on the smallest and insignificant shit, usually days after the rest of the web (GAF) has exhausted discussion on the same issue. Maxamillion is another I got sick of very quickly.

Trust me. You're not. He literally picks apart every single frame and talks with about it with the most mundane voice possible. He's good for people who like that sort of thing though. Also, don't make me get started on Maxi-clickbait-millian.

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