They already reveal it to other people and it is exactly as GI and ND describe it.
Actually they are excited to see more.
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Actually they are excited to see more.
There's nothing provocative about that in terms of popular gaming, RE4 did it, and sold incredibly well. Although that's certainly not to say it wouldn't be good, but it wouldn't be any progressive or anything.I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death already or countered reasonably- but I feel like Naughty Dog is missing an opportunity to push gamers outside their comfort zones a little by having us play as Ellie instead. I remain very hyped for this nonetheless.
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I am still very afraid of this game suffering the same faults that Uncharted has. I've only played UC2, but in my opinion that game is not a fun game. Its a pretty game, it has unbelievable setpieces, it has engaging characters, it has all that stuff. I don't doubt Naughty Dog's ability to pull off this setting. But as far as the actual act of controlling the character around and playing the game. ND has yet to prove themselves.
If this game is similar in that regard to the UC series then I am going to be very displeased. Already there are comparisons to RE4.. why is this? RE4 has some of the most challenging and intense combat mechanics of any game. It requires nuance, skill, and creativity on the players part to get through some of those combat arenas. That game is a fucking game.
I just don't see that from this. As intriguing and unique as the setting and characters appear to be in The Last of Us, I just have no interest in playing another modern "on rails" cinematic experience. That type of experience is just uninteresting.
If this game is similar in that regard to the UC series then I am going to be very displeased. Already there are comparisons to RE4.. why is this? RE4 has some of the most challenging and intense combat mechanics of any game. It requires nuance, skill, and creativity on the players part to get through some of those combat arenas. That game is a fucking game.
I just don't see that from this. As intriguing and unique as the setting and characters appear to be in The Last of Us, I just have no interest in playing another modern "on rails" cinematic experience. That type of experience is just uninteresting.
You're referring to my post? I mentioned RE4 because it's a game with a male protagonist, traveling with a girl you play as for a while, as the post I quoted suggested for this. Nothing about that comparison relates to game design or quality.
Although I would put UC2 up there with RE4 without question.
Although I would put UC2 up there with RE4 without question.
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Oh no, not your post. Someone earlier declared this game as the "RE4 of the generation."
I played UC2 for 9 hours straight with a hangover 2 days after a very serious and longterm relationship unexpectedly ended. So I hate that game.
I played UC2 for 9 hours straight with a hangover 2 days after a very serious and longterm relationship unexpectedly ended. So I hate that game.
BigTnaples
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Uncharted 2 had fantastic gameplay.
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Thats not the way I remember it. I remember getting killed 20 times in a row on a train because it saved with a guy behind me and I had no health. I remember getting angry to the point of tears climbing around that giant clock/geared thing in the mountains and not know where the hell to go. I remember being punished for exploring this ice cave, I remember have no idea how the cover worked and not being able to coolly anticipate when my guy would and wouldn't stick to things and pop out. I remember the bad guys being really really dumb too. I don't know. I had a very poor experience with UC2. I had been waiting forever to play it because I don't have a Playstation so when the time came that I borrowed a Playstation and the game from a friend I was super pumped for it. But it just wasn't fun.
hey_it's_that_dog
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RE4 did it for 10 minutes. I think the suggestion here is that were the entire game to be built around playing as the less-able female character it would be pretty novel. There aren't many games where the AI sidekick is more powerful than the player, and probably none that have this realistic aesthetic.
I don't think I'd prefer that approach. I'm just saying RE4 isn't the best example.
The bolded statement isn't possible. There is no "health" in Uncharted games.
The rest are all problems that seem to have more to do with you than the game. I say this not to insult your ability, but because these aren't common complaints.
At least you acknowledge that you played it under some unfortunate and negative circumstances and that has something to do with your impressions.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Is that what he's talking about? Is it possible for the game to checkpoint you during that fight such that he instakills you when it loads?
It's far from my favorite part of the game, but I don't remember it being maddeningly difficult.
He's not talking about that, it just reminded me of it. The only check point in that fight puts you safely down the cart from the guy.
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Well effectively thats what happened. Maybe I didn't have ammo or something I can't really remember. But I got into this HUGELY FAT load and die loop for what felt like 45 minutes. I'll never forget that stupid train sequence. Worse than that level in Shadows of the Empire, which I actually like now that I think about it. The robot fight at the end was awesome.
Net_Wrecker
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I don't know if it was the best part of the game, but I too have no idea what "restart-die" loop he's talking about. 95% of Uncharted 2 was a really fun game.
That third game, though? Yeah, I could agree with "unfun" in relation to that game.
Not just Uncharted 2. For me, the train chapters are among the very best in the Uncharted series.
Lmfao same here bra
just looking at the cover gives me bad memories...............sigh
edit: why cant I make topics?? I have been here for 7 years!
demosthenes
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Maybe a mod perma-juniored you?
How it should be done; accept no substitutes.
Just the way I like it.
Looks like fate, you can't fight with it.
BruceLeeRoy
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Nice try. Please exit the thread bro....Your done.
Byakuya769
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Honestly man, just sounds like YOU were horrible at the game.
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Nice try at what? Trolling? Please. I had a very negative experience with the game. I went of my way to provide context, just take my anecdote for what it is. Someone played UC2 and had a bad time. People have a bad time having sex sometimes too.
I wouldn't doubt my skill level had something to do with it. Never played the series before AND it was a console I'm not used to playing. I did have a PS2 so I knew the controller but I was definitely not used to the analogue sticks or shoulder buttons.
It's not the best
To you maybe. I doubt most people think the same about Uncharted. I love everything about UC2, controls inculded, actually I prefer it to a lot of TPS'es out there like Resident Evil or Mass Effect. I can understand people complaining about controlling the character in those games, even though I love both Me and RE but they can be clunky as hell. But I can't imagine WHY anyone would complain about controls in an Uncharted game. I can understand the complaints about too much shooting or enemies being bullet sponges sometimes but controlling the characters is anything but clunky! At least it was amazing in 2.
BruceLeeRoy
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Just sounds odd. You don't have a ps3 and then go out of your way to explain why you don't like UC2 at all. What possible reason would you have for being in the thread then?
Metalmurphy
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Anyone complaining about the controls and character movement in an Uncharted game needs to watch a MP match or something. It's amazing what you can do, and how fast you can do it in the game. No other game lets you have that kinda of movement and it all works perfectly.
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Because TLOU looks bad as hell. Why else would I be in this thread? I'm sittin over here with youtube popped open my iPad thinking "shit this game is gonna be the coolest game ever" and then the next thing that pops into my mind is "well i did play Uncharted and that most certainly was not the coolest game ever." Oh or maybe I'm just spending my Sunday afternoon trying to poison the well of the collective-conciousness's opinion of an upcoming entertainment product. Because, you know, how else am I going to spend my time?
AgentChris
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Uncharted 2 is my favorite game of all time. Can't wait for TLOU because of Bruce Straley.
Well it doesn't look awkward and allows animators to really clean up the animation to where it looks natural.
BruceLeeRoy
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Like I said just odd. I don't think your trolling though.
Ok thanks.
It's also talked about in UC3 disc 'making of' vids, you can probably find it online it's about cinematics and the devs further explain why it's the way they choose to do facial animation. And honestly after seeing how amazing the characters faces look in the UC series I have to completely agree.Ok thanks.
Callibretto
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the best way is probably to actually use both, a mix of facial mocap and use those data as reference to get all the subtle detail while also hand animated it to make it looks right. I think Avatar, Golumn do it like that.
the way ND do it now, in the hand of lesser animator can end up really bad. but ND does have some really good animator working there.
Thanks I give it a look.
Whatever ND does it works really well.
Yep thats me.
Low blow from the mods. that shit hurts.
to think I can never make a topic on gaf again....
ND's hand-crafted facial animation is really the best in the business. Thing with motion capture is that it's actually fairly rudimentary so you end up doing/touching up mostly everything by hand anyway if you want to make it look right, using reference footage...just like ND does.
Most games don't use either anyway, electing to use 3rd party engines that render facial animation automatically from sound files, which looks awful.
Most games don't use either anyway, electing to use 3rd party engines that render facial animation automatically from sound files, which looks awful.
Kenshin001
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So you couldn't find your way around in an on rails cinematic experience, to the point you were in tears? I think it's time you put the pointy hat with the big D on and stand in the corner.
ShipTheCheese
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Hang on, there are people that don't like Uncharted 2?
I'm all for different folks/different strokes but wow.
On topic: being able to see gameplay for TLU is pretty much my no.1 reason for watching e3 this year.
I'm all for different folks/different strokes but wow.
On topic: being able to see gameplay for TLU is pretty much my no.1 reason for watching e3 this year.
What do you guys think are the chances this game has some sort of multiplayer component? I think it's 50/50. I bet ND wants to just establish the world with only a campaign, but I bet Sony sees the value in multiplayer (DLC, extended ownership, etc). I'm going to play my bet on some sort of co-op horde-like thing.
Net_Wrecker
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I hope it's a smaller version of DayZ. Survival co-op where you gotta eat, lots of melee, protecting turf from crazy bandits, minimal shooting, co-op teamwork to fortify areas, day/night cycle, moving to different zones after a few "days" in one area, etc. etc.
A onlien component is already confirmed.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012...scene-the-sky-has-turned-grey/#comment-716256
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461993
I'm sorry to be so late on this, but what exactly are you talking about? Are you referring to the fact that you get to play as Ashley in one section of the game...? I remember it being quite brief; maybe I'm misunderstanding you though.
In RE4 you play as Leon. Are there any examples of a game which actually do what I suggested? That is, you play as part of a duo, but not the stronger one that is tasked with protecting an NPC. The one that needs more help to survive and has to work harder to stay alive, though you won't have to save your companion nearly as often.
I just think it's unexplored territory, and I think it has something to do with not wanting to make the player character a 14-year-old girl. But I think it could make for a unique experience.