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farisr · Dec 13, 2016

Well there we go. Preorder getting cancelled if they don't change this.

My purchase was already in question after they said they won't be doing splitscreen anymore as they initially promised. Was getting the game for 50% off and thought I'd keep the preorder for the campaign. But I absolutely do not support always online for shit that doesn't justify it, and this absolutely does not justify it.

So, yeah, will cancel my order now if this doesn't change.

BakedTanooki · Dec 13, 2016

Really a shame if true.
I looked forward to play it, but won't buy it anymore now.
An "offline" single player campaign behind online wall? Won't support something like that.

DangerMouse · Dec 13, 2016

Welp.

May have to join in cancelling.

13ruce said:
Well that's a pass for sure. If i wanna play the singleplayer 10 years later when the online server gets shut down then tough luck.

Thats why i do not support always online singleplayer campaigns. Who in the heck would support that. Servers down=rip replays.

Yeah.

SRTtoZ · Dec 13, 2016

theonerayman said:
As someone who lives not far from Blackberg this dude needs to be seriously slapped.

All that being said, with aata caps and everything else that the internet companies are trying to pull on us, always on from game companies is a crappy crappy deal unless there is a legit reason. This seems like a BS reason at best.

He was slapped. Slapped right out of a job.

prudislav · Dec 13, 2016

Gamezone said:
I'm mad because they said so many times that the campaign will be offline. Even their website saids so.

yay online-only UbiDRM is back \o/ I guess the millennials now are fine with it

I even remember them saing botmatches will be playable offline ..... but nothing news they said the same for R6:Siege TerrorHunt , but that one is online.only too

I guess Ubi is slowly tries to sneak in their "good old" online DRM and at the same time for some reason removing old games which had previous try of this DRM from steam (DriverSF, HWX2,...)

BTW: using Denuvo and online.only seems to be bit DRM overkill

britt0n · Dec 13, 2016

"I was going to play this game but now I'm no longer going to because of it being online" - this is a ludicrous statement.

prudislav · Dec 13, 2016

Nestled_Grizzly said:
Still buying it if that's the case. Always online never bothered me.

tell that to the Ubisofts servers which are down all the time (at least usually at the time europeans gets from work)

TAJ · Dec 13, 2016

BHK3 said:
Steep is as well, why the outrage here?

Because it's fucking gross.

Amir0x · Dec 13, 2016

I havent bought a Ubisoft game in like two years due to behavior like this, seems the trend will continue.

Diancecht · Dec 13, 2016

Well I am not buying it then. Go fuck yourself Ubi.

prudislav · Dec 13, 2016

Diancecht said:
Go fuck yourself Ubi.

God bless Vivendi

belteshazzar · Dec 13, 2016

I loved the Alpha, but this makes me reconsider getting the game. I simply cannot accept dumb ass business practices such as this one. That is why I will never get the new Hitman either, no matter how awesome everyone else seems to think it is. It is simply unacceptable.

Inuhanyou · Dec 13, 2016

britt0n said:
"I was going to play this game but now I'm no longer going to because of it being online" - this is a ludicrous statement.

"I was going to play this game because they promised an offline only campaign, but i am no longer going to because they went back on their word"

That is more accurate to people's viewpoints.

You are being obtuse on purpose.

farisr · Dec 13, 2016

britt0n said:
"I was going to play this game but now I'm no longer going to because of it being online" - this is a ludicrous statement.

Indeed it is. But, "I was interested in this game but will no longer buy it due to it requiring an online connection to their servers for modes that absolutely have no legitimate reason for requiring it" is not.

Oneself · Dec 13, 2016

HeisenbergWW62 said:
Confirmed: I won't be buying For Honor

Not that I was going to in the first place

Pretty much yeah.

SURGEdude · Dec 13, 2016

Well I wouldn't even consider buying it at this point. Gamefly if it reviews well, otherwise nope. Won't pay over $10 for an always online game since it is disposable at that point once the servers go dark.

Joco · Dec 13, 2016

alr1ght said:
Welcome to your new Vivendi overlords.

I'm pretty sure Vivendi had no part in this.

britt0n · Dec 13, 2016

Inuhanyou said:
"I was going to play this game because they promised an offline only campaign, but i am no longer going to because they went back on their word"

That is more accurate to people's viewpoints.

You are being obtuse on purpose.

Early 2016 Ubisoft press release:
"We totally pinky swear that the campaign will be offline because that's what you want to hear, even though it won't and we may lose a few dozen sales now"

I do not accept the fact that people will want to go back years from now and want to play this game, I mean how many people are clamoring to play The Outfit after 10 years? This is the world of games that we live in now.

But but you promised?!?!?!?

SolicitorPirate · Dec 13, 2016

Inuhanyou said:
This kind of mindset was also thrown about when XB1's original vision was floated. "Nobody cares about what nerds on the internet say!".

If you just act like nothing matters, then nothing will matter. If people make a ruckus, someone will listen 50% of the time.

We're still talking about the amount of control and ownership we have over our products that we buy at full price. Its a legitimate fight o have.

Which is why I specially narrowed it to a gaming forum. The Xbone's reputation broke into the wider mainstream to the point people with little if any interest in games knew about the new Xbox that wouldn't work if disconnected.

If you wanna make the bet that fucking For Honor gets that kind of exposure, go ahead.

DTU · Dec 13, 2016

Jawmuncher said:
Steep from the get go was labeled as such. For Honor was not, so this is Ubisoft doing a 180.

The thing is, you still haven't purchased it. You can just not buy it if you feel so strongly.

Gamezone · Dec 13, 2016

BHK3 said:
Steep is as well, why the outrage here?

I would give a shit if I cared about Steep.

Akainu · Dec 13, 2016

SPEA said:
Why such a big outcry? Who here on Gaf was actually going to play this game not connected to the internet?

And when your internet connection doesn't work? Tough shit right?

down 2 orth · Dec 13, 2016

Game I never heard of + Ubisoft + always online = lol

StereoVsn · Dec 13, 2016

Oh well, I shall take the same route as I did with Elite Dangerous and Hitman, wait for a huge sale.

GungHo · Dec 13, 2016

Gamezone said:
Nope, it's a real campaign.

Is it narrated by the guy who did the Deadliest Warrior narration?

farisr · Dec 13, 2016

britt0n said:
Early 2016 Ubisoft press release:
"We totally pinky swear that the campaign will be offline because that's what you want to hear, even though it won't and we may lose a few dozen sales now"

I do not accept the fact that people will want to go back years from now and want to play this game, I mean how many people are clamoring to play The Outfit after 10 years? This is the world of games that we live in now.

But but you promised?!?!?!?

How about this case then. I couldn't connect to their servers during the Alpha at all. Similarly, my friend couldn't connect to EA's Battlefront servers at all for 2 weeks. Despite our internet, PSN connection, and other games working perfectly fine we couldn't play the games. Now online multiplayer, is of course, understandable. But being at the mercy of their servers to play a mode that has no right requiring an online connection? No thanks.

Also, have you played the campaign? Or are you just assuming it won't be good and folks won't like it enough to want to play it later. There are plenty of games that I still go back to, to this day, more than 10 years later, and I'm sure there are a few games in there that you personally don't feel like were worth going back to.

filly · Dec 13, 2016

Day one to day none. Jokes aside, you can't preserve these kind of games. What happenes when they decide to take the servers offline one day? At the least there should be an offline mode. Especially due to the fact there is a single player campaign.

Artdayne · Dec 13, 2016

Akainu said:
And when your internet connection doesn't work? Tough shit right?

How often does that happen? Once a month? Once every three months? How long does that happen, a couple hours?

Gamezone · Dec 13, 2016

Artdayne said:
How often does that happen? Once a month? Once every three months? How long does that happen, a couple hours?

It happens far more often that their servers doesn`t work.

alr1ght · Dec 13, 2016

Joco said:
I'm pretty sure Vivendi had no part in this.

I'm speaking to Ubisoft.

10k · Dec 13, 2016

Just saved $80 CAD. Feels good fam.

Ferrio · Dec 13, 2016

13ruce said:
Well that's a pass for sure. If i wanna play the singleplayer 10 years later when the online server gets shut down then tough luck.

Thats why i do not support always online singleplayer campaigns. Who in the heck would support that. Servers down=rip replays.

Do people really think they're going to wanna pull out For Honor 10 years from now? That type of revisiting games to me is reserved to absolute classics, does anyone actually think For Honor was ever going to reach that status?

atr0cious · Dec 13, 2016

Buying this for multiplayer, but the way the feature list has shrunk since the initial reveal is really sad and disheartening. Really tightening the belt just to get it out.

old manatee · Dec 13, 2016

Sounds like a decent redbox rental for me.

web_slinger_62 · Dec 13, 2016

So no Nintendo Switch version I guess

mreddie · Dec 13, 2016

In before someone says Siege is always online.

Ubisoft just can't fucking resist. I wonder if Ghost Recon will too.

farisr · Dec 13, 2016

Ferrio said:
Do people really think they're going to wanna pull out For Honor 10 years from now? That type of revisiting games to me is reserved to absolute classics, does anyone think this game is actually going to achieve that?

Maybe to others, they don't need a game to be an "absolute classic" to revisit. Different people have different preferences as well. The fact is that they're removing this possibility/option from the equation when it doesn't need to be. It's not a matter of whether people are thinking this will absolutely be a great campaign or not. I'm sure if the campaign turns out to be crap, you'll immediately see posts of "why is this always online" die down. Heck, Steep is a great example of a game that not many are interested in, not having a big deal made of it being always online.

If it's great, you'll consistently see people coming into topics asking if it has been taken out yet (like Hitman).

Artdayne · Dec 13, 2016

Gamezone said:
It happens far more often that their servers doesn`t work.

We'll see. I was always approaching this game as a multiplayer game anyway so I was expecting it to be a game where I depended on the servers to play it.

RE4 · Dec 13, 2016

Uplay issues say Hi

ridiculous

SolicitorPirate · Dec 13, 2016

Ferrio said:
Do people really think they're going to wanna pull out For Honor 10 years from now? That type of revisiting games to me is reserved to absolute classics, does anyone actually think For Honor was ever going to reach that status?

There's always going to be some game that just resonates someone on a really personal level. For me, that's SaGa Frontier. A game released in 97 that I still play to this day.

While I have doubts if the single player component of a game focused on online competitive play would ever really resonate with someone to that degree, it's not impossible

SURGEdude · Dec 13, 2016

Ferrio said:
Do people really think they're going to wanna pull out For Honor 10 years from now? That type of revisiting games to me is reserved to absolute classics, does anyone actually think For Honor was ever going to reach that status?

Xbox has made a huge deal and a lot of hay on backwards compatibility. 10 years is very generous as well. How thrilling would it be a huge part of your single player library was unplayable?

I'll never get people who seem to love gaming, but apparently don't think it's worth preserving even in the simplest way. It's a contradiction that makes me wonder if they are just interested in the new shiny and couldn't care less about the medium's long term future.

Ferrio · Dec 13, 2016

SolicitorPirate said:
There's always going to be some game that just resonates someone on a really personal level. For me, that's SaGa Frontier. A game released in 97 that I still play to this day.

Wow I couldn't even stomach through that game when it was first released, you're dedicated I'll give ya that.

SURGEdude said:
Xbox has made a huge deal and a lot of hay on backwards compatibility. 10 years is very generous as well. How thrilling would it be a huge part of your single player library was unplayable?

There's a good chance that's already a possibility to my collection due to disc rot.

As much as I like collecting, I've realized that my "oh I'll play this 10 years down the line" never happens even for games I adore but maybe that's me.

Akainu · Dec 13, 2016

Artdayne said:
How often does that happen? Once a month? Once every three months? How long does that happen, a couple hours?

I have comcast so more than it should it's even more fun when the connect keep craping out every two seconds. Are saying I should be ok with not being able to play the games I want to during outages?

DTU · Dec 13, 2016

Let's be real. 99% of you guys are going to buy this tape on sale for $40 or less, then trade it in after a few weeks.

Akainu said:
I have comcast so more than it should it's even more fun when the connect keep craping out every two seconds. Are saying I should be ok with not being able to play the games I want to during outages?

This game also always needs power. What happens during a power outage?

SolicitorPirate · Dec 13, 2016

Ferrio said:
Wow I couldn't even stomach through that game when it was first released, you're dedicated I'll give ya that.

Exactly what I mean. A game doesn't have to be a concenssus classic to be meaningful to the individual

bobbychalkers · Dec 13, 2016

Shame, it looked really cool. Oh well.

Tigress · Dec 13, 2016

Ferrio said:
Do people really think they're going to wanna pull out For Honor 10 years from now? That type of revisiting games to me is reserved to absolute classics, does anyone actually think For Honor was ever going to reach that status?

I like going back and playing Smuggler's Run. I wonder how many people even remember that game. Doesn't have to be a classic to want to replay it. It just has to be a game you really loved.

Ferrio · Dec 13, 2016

Tigress said:
I like going back and playing Smuggler's Run. I wonder how many people even remember that game. Doesn't have to be a classic to want to replay it. It just has to be a game you really loved.

I understand, but why should you skip a game that you'll love now for the off chance you might wanna play it 10 years down the line but can't?

farisr · Dec 13, 2016

Ferrio said:
So the argument is that someone who really loves For Honor can't go back in play it, so they shouldn't buy this game that they'll love?

The argument is that they won't buy this game that they could potentially love, because they don't have control over when and how long they get to play it. They would rather save that money and spend it towards a game/developer that is not taking that control away.

BHK3 · Dec 13, 2016

Gamezone said:
For Honor kinda looked interesting in comparison.

Gamezone said:
I would give a shit if I cared about Steep.

You already answered me bro chill out.

I just find it funny some are going "this is wrong on multiple levels" and some are going "one game is shit and one isn't"

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