Laieon
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What? Games are still delayed quite a bit. Bioshock: Infinite, South Park, PSO2 localization, Watch_Dogs, The Crew, there's a ton of recent examples.
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Top 10 Worst E3 trends from 1997 Computer Gaming World
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What? Games are still delayed quite a bit. Bioshock: Infinite, South Park, PSO2 localization, Watch_Dogs, The Crew, there's a ton of recent examples.
Yep, we definitely have equal and proper representation of women in gaming now!
We've come a long way, for sure... still not there yet but I agree we've made progress.
When writing about consoles though. On the PC the whole "let us try running it from the optical disc" bit doesn't apply anymore.
I remember my cousin downloading an 8-16mb AOL installer, took almost 24 hours, and he actually ran out of space by the end.
PandaPedinte
Member
Wow except for the 3D card confusion and RTS overload (you can whatever genre is predominant today) this still applies to today market.
CaptainTiptop
Member
75mb installs haha wow, and a few of my PS4 games take up 40GB now.
Yeah but now it's not a problem because very few AAA games bother with Woman as main characters in the first place!
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Amazing how relevant that list still is.
Except for the bimbos. BRING THE BIMBOS BACK! I LIKE MY TITS 'N ASS!!
Except for the bimbos. BRING THE BIMBOS BACK! I LIKE MY TITS 'N ASS!!
To be fair, he was talking about all the games rehashing that same scenario, so it was actually the devs that were visionary 17 years ago. This of course means the zombie apocalypse starts in 2031.
We are experiencing an RTS overload....except it's manifesting in an "evolved" form of the MOBA, see League of Legends, Dota2 and the million others trying to cash in on their popularity. The genre and it's overload is there it just mutated a bit.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Marketing weenies and 'me too'
a guy to my liking
See, back then junnalists still had a sack and weren't sucking from mama publisher's teet
a guy to my liking
See, back then junnalists still had a sack and weren't sucking from mama publisher's teet
Cow Mengde
Banned
What? Back in 1997-1998 or so, 3 GB harddrives were pretty common. My first PC was around that time and I had a 3GB harddrive.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Most of those complaints are vague enough that they could be easily applied to many artistic industries.
"Me too-ism" and "bimbos", for example, are just what happens when artists chase dollar signs instead of quality.
"Me too-ism" and "bimbos", for example, are just what happens when artists chase dollar signs instead of quality.
Old video game magazine articles that are relevant today?
Interesting read. Disheartening, all the same.
Nikodemos
Member
I bought a computer in mid-1996 and it came with a 1.8 GB hard drive. That was considered reasonably high capacity. 3 GB hard drives only started appearing around 1998. The late '90s were a boom period for technological advancement. Speeds and capacities jumped up yearly.
Doominated
Member
Road Rash was a fantastic game
comadorcrack
Neo Member
I wonder what genre will conquer the market after FPS's are done.
My fingers are crossed so hard for the age of stealth!
My fingers are crossed so hard for the age of stealth!
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
50mb to 75mb installs?!
You can change RTS for FPS now, and it's the same. People complain about the saturation of shooters, but forget that there's always a genre that it's incredible popular at certain point and every developer tries to copy them (platforms, rpgs, rts, open-world, etc). It has happened in all generation, and will also happens with another genre in the future.
PastorOfMuppets
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Everyone here is laughing at the Russian invading Ukraine trope - I think it's more amazing that their were enough flight sims back then that that was even a trope in the first place.
I also liked that the microtransactions/DLC experiment was a failure on PC for another two generations. A bunch of games tried to do it but gamers weren't having it back then. Another thing to note was the blurb about pay to play online services. That era also had pay to play online services akin to PSN and XBL today. The difference? Those services all failed.
Just interesting to note how far ahead of the curve PC gaming was at the time.
I also liked that the microtransactions/DLC experiment was a failure on PC for another two generations. A bunch of games tried to do it but gamers weren't having it back then. Another thing to note was the blurb about pay to play online services. That era also had pay to play online services akin to PSN and XBL today. The difference? Those services all failed.
Just interesting to note how far ahead of the curve PC gaming was at the time.
SeventhSon
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S¡mon;103590020 said:
Well changed that to 50-75 GB installs and it's relevant for today.
Syphon Filter
Member
The me too one isn't as bad as today. Back then it was after multiple games where now its all after one game [COD].
To be fair, the "sexism" thing did become a thing these past few years. I don't recall a major backlash when Lara posed "naked" on the OPM cover of 1998 or so for TR2 or 3 from Core. Used shadows to hide her "naughty bits" but still the same. Sex sells and all that.
That's not to say that the talk wasn't there in the 90's. It was, but it wasn't as "noise"y as it is now a days from journalists.
FPS overload.
Ardenyal
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SatelliteOfLove
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Terrifyingly precient.
And then you have the rise and fall of the desperation and classlessness. Sometimes it's uncommon and more often cheesecakey, then sometimes it's wall-to-wall bimbos that crowds its way into so many games.
We didn't have indie developers back then in nearly the same number we do now, who have been coming up with really creative games over the last few years, with the best yet to come. Games like Kerbal Space Program, FTL and Papers, Please are a part of the huge indie explosion which has really trumped many of the big boys in terms of creativity, and even they haven't been resting on their laurels, giving us game changers such as Mass Effect, Mirror's Edge, Assassin's Creed, Dragon Age, with more on the way, such as Watch_Dogs, Titanfall and the like.
And then there are the games which we want to get made actually getting made due to things like Kickstarter - Kingdom Come: Deliverance, Star Citizen and the like could not have been made back then because that model was not in place. We've even managed to resurrect some of our favourite game series, such as Monkey Island and Sam'n'Max, and Telltale are doing new stuff besides, like Wolf Among Us.
The industry will likely be dominated by FPS games for a long time to come, but there's a lot more on offer besides, and it has never been a better time to be a pc gamer.
Yep. I remember it in C64 magazines. Complaints about the flood of shmups and platformers, etc. Popular genres remain popular and will be more numerous than any other type of game, and the complaints are endless.
FriedConsole
Banned
Yep. The only thing that changes is the medium they do it in:
Magazines -> Newsgroups/AOL -> Websites -> Podcasts -> YouTube
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
50MB is a single gif on GAF these days.
The 3D card thing was huge back then. It took a lot of work to get some games to work with your card.
And the space requirements one. I remember going into random C/windows folders to delete pictures to free up the last few megabytes to install starcraft. Which was I think 70mb. Hard to do when the hard drive is 200mb.
And the space requirements one. I remember going into random C/windows folders to delete pictures to free up the last few megabytes to install starcraft. Which was I think 70mb. Hard to do when the hard drive is 200mb.
SaggyMonkey
Member
On point #8, online Asteroids was AWESOME. (it was called Subspace)
nephilimdj
Member
ut99 took like 2hours to install on my p2 700mhz50mb to 75mb installs?!
This is amazing.
And RTS overload, pls return, I miss you so much... Your cousin FPS just can't hold a candle to you
MutonCommander
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Heh, that's amazing! And a bit sad at the same time.
DavionStriker
Member
Russian invasion of Ukraine? How outrageous!
No, seriously folks... The 75 MB install cracked me up. Reading this thread about dads getting mad at games, I had that happen with Ultima 7 and Wing Commander 2. With those two games on the HDD, nothing else could be install. I think dad even had to uninstall Lotus 123.
No, seriously folks... The 75 MB install cracked me up. Reading this thread about dads getting mad at games, I had that happen with Ultima 7 and Wing Commander 2. With those two games on the HDD, nothing else could be install. I think dad even had to uninstall Lotus 123.
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