TannerDemoz
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They'll drop a load of stuff on the e-store probably making it free before implementing the price charge. So, as of yet, nothing.
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What has Nintendo done to earn the online usage fee in 2018?
- Thread starter FirmBizBws
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This clearly is an area where Nintendo is in over their heads. Delayed to 2018. Their Switch online phone app STILL only supports one game, which is Splatoon 2. If they had their shit together, the app would include Mario Kart, Arms, 3rd party games, and at the very least the simpler stuff like Mario Odyssey leaderboard challenges.
At this point I'd rather see them nuke any paid access and just focus on free online and making VC available with the same discount program Wii to Wii U had for Switch.
At this point I'd rather see them nuke any paid access and just focus on free online and making VC available with the same discount program Wii to Wii U had for Switch.
Memorabilia
Member
Less than zero.
But for $20 it MIGHT be worth it to eventually sub. Thing is I barely have time to game right now so I dont think I'll bother until my schedule lightens a bit.
But for $20 it MIGHT be worth it to eventually sub. Thing is I barely have time to game right now so I dont think I'll bother until my schedule lightens a bit.
DonF
Member
My only online experience with the switch has been with splatoon 2 and its been less than stellar.
The matchmaking is a little bit slow, thats ok, but to play with friends is the most stupid thing ever. The lobby you use with your cellphone is shit, so we just tried the "play with friends" option in the game. The friend has to join a game, then you follow. This isnt garanteed to work cause sometimes the game fills fast or the person joins last, closing the lobby. So you have to wait 3 minutes to join. After that, if you get in the same lobby, there is no guarantee you will end up in the same team. If you end up in the same team, there is no identifier for your friend like many games.
So yes, kinda barebones...
The matchmaking is a little bit slow, thats ok, but to play with friends is the most stupid thing ever. The lobby you use with your cellphone is shit, so we just tried the "play with friends" option in the game. The friend has to join a game, then you follow. This isnt garanteed to work cause sometimes the game fills fast or the person joins last, closing the lobby. So you have to wait 3 minutes to join. After that, if you get in the same lobby, there is no guarantee you will end up in the same team. If you end up in the same team, there is no identifier for your friend like many games.
So yes, kinda barebones...
LordRaptor
Member
Activision get a cut of XBL fees, so you have to assume that EA do too, and you then have to further assume that they also get a cut of PSN fees.
But given neither of them have done much in the way of supporting the switch with their online titles, its possible that Nintendo will delay implementing any online fees until they do.
But given neither of them have done much in the way of supporting the switch with their online titles, its possible that Nintendo will delay implementing any online fees until they do.
ShadowFox08
Member
We can't message friends and we don't even have a proper voicechat. I'm not paying $20 a year until those two get fixed at least.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
I've had this conversation with a few people; currently, Nintendo have done absolutely nothing to warrant paying for an online service.
In fact, thanks for reminding me; I need to get Splatoon 2 soon, so I can play that while it's still free, because at the moment, I certainly don't plan on paying to play online, when it's the only game with online I remotely care about (Mario Kart DX is fun, but that's been playable online for years).
I'm loving the Switch, but for me it's a single-player orientated system.
How about giving away games every month? Or having a large number of online games worth playing? Or offering proper voice chat?
In fact, thanks for reminding me; I need to get Splatoon 2 soon, so I can play that while it's still free, because at the moment, I certainly don't plan on paying to play online, when it's the only game with online I remotely care about (Mario Kart DX is fun, but that's been playable online for years).
I'm loving the Switch, but for me it's a single-player orientated system.
How about giving away games every month? Or having a large number of online games worth playing? Or offering proper voice chat?
Thunder_God_Bane
Member
No extra fee to play your games online are justified. Thats why I dont pay psn plus an not Xbox live. My pc is my hub for all games an it dont require extra costs.
Consoles are only for exclusives for me an then I decide if its worth online fee
Consoles are only for exclusives for me an then I decide if its worth online fee
Horsemama1956
Member
Yeah I'm guessing by adding a few Nintendo can now claim premium online. I can't imagine more than an incredibly small number of people playing online games on a Nintendo console especially unlocked. Considering how voice chat works Nintendo clearly doesn't think so either but you may as well rake in easy money.
ViolentP
Member
You mean games you can only play while you pay? Wouldn't exactly call that giving it away. Also, large number of online games worth playing and proper voice chat are free elsewhere. So my confusion still stands.
Blam
Member
PS+ AND GWG is the same.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Wonder how long the wii-U will be free to play online?
If Nintendo did a few free recent and decent games per month some access to gba/SNES games like with psn or Xbox live gold then maybe Ill bite tbh I play games more offline. Possibly splatoon 2 and Mario kart would be the main games I play online
If Nintendo did a few free recent and decent games per month some access to gba/SNES games like with psn or Xbox live gold then maybe Ill bite tbh I play games more offline. Possibly splatoon 2 and Mario kart would be the main games I play online
ThaPhantom
Member
When Smash has a functional online multiplayer experience on Switch and Pokemon comes out with a more fleshed out online experience on Switch I will pay for it. Until then I can do without.
ViolentP
Member
They are.
Yu Furealdo
Member
At least they're only charging $20 a year for it. I'd rather pay that (though I probably won't) than purchase PS+ or XBL subscriptions.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Saved console gaming with the NES.
michaelius
Banned
Sony had pretty amazing lineup of games included in price during best ps3/vita years.
SinCityAssassin
Member
The Classic Selection service that comes with the online subscription is officially a different thing from Virtual console.
I've currently played 270h Splatoon 2 and 105h Mario Kart 8D online and I'm still not done with Splatoon 2. I'm also looking forward to the "Better Together" update of Minecraft, this will add some additional online hours.
Concerning online, they have not done much, it just works for the games I've mentioned as long as you just want to play against random people from the internet and you don't want to chat/speak to them - this is fine for me.
Concerning online, they have not done much, it just works for the games I've mentioned as long as you just want to play against random people from the internet and you don't want to chat/speak to them - this is fine for me.
Junahu
Member
It's not delayed because they can't do it sooner. It's delayed until after the holidays as a deliberate trap for consumers. They're selling a swathe of multiplayer focused games, on a console that ostensibly lacks a subscription service, and the average person isn't going to see the "well actually we're going to charge a fee soon" small print when they buy it.
By the time they roll out the subscription, people will have invested time and money into these games, thus making it a more tempting proposition to cough up the dough.
The phone app is admittedly just Nintendo being brazenly incompetant.
Acerac
Banned
I wish I had something to add, but pretty much this. Kind of sucks that this is the situation the market is in, but it feels a bit late to start complaining now.
It sucks horribly, but if I wish to use a console online I don't have a choice. The fact that the service is cheaper than the alternatives is a very minor solace. =/
The Cartographer
Member
Nothing.
The only positive note here is that they will ask less money than the other two companies.
The only positive note here is that they will ask less money than the other two companies.
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
You mean the price we already paid for the console?
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
Member
Same can be said for PS4 and XBOX online. It was free (PS) generation before why not now?
Yeah yeah free games. I'd rather have free online than those games I can buy for cheap later on.
royox
Member
Same can't be said because I've never heard/read someone saying he pays PS+/Gold because he thinks he owes that to Sony/Microsoft lol.
zenspider
Member
It's 20 bucks, please fix OP.
Splatoon 2, Rocket League, MK8, and whatever the retro games are plenty worth it for me personally.
I'm interested in that Chinese MOBA (King Clash of Wars or something), and my fingers are crossed for eventual ports of Mario Maker, XCX, and Smash - all which have online components.
There might be more in the pipeline we'll hopefully find out about in a January Direct.
In short, they "earned it" by killing it with the Switch so far.
Splatoon 2, Rocket League, MK8, and whatever the retro games are plenty worth it for me personally.
I'm interested in that Chinese MOBA (King Clash of Wars or something), and my fingers are crossed for eventual ports of Mario Maker, XCX, and Smash - all which have online components.
There might be more in the pipeline we'll hopefully find out about in a January Direct.
In short, they "earned it" by killing it with the Switch so far.
Nintendo doesnt care about online. Its not popular in Japan, its expensive, and equally importantly, they dont know how to do it. Thats why they hired a firm that specializes in online commerce to do it for WiiU (Online is online right?). They outsourced to DeNa who is building something as cheaply as possible. Everything is server based. Doing centralized systems is much more expensive and hard. So every game handles everything but central account services/friends on its own. once again Nintendo has to discover 2007 themselves, as Sony did the same thing sans outsourcing.
Theres no way to do wireless headphones on the Switch, except via WiFi direct, which Im doubting it supports.
Understand. Nintendo bought the Shield 2 off the shelf, nodded it a bit and shipped it. They dont understand the online world, they really dont understand anything. Asking them to match features with the other consoles is a waste of time. Dont buy from Nintendo until they go third party, and let thr adults handle the heavy lifting so they do what they do best.
Yes I know many will see this as hate, but its simply the facts of the matter. And so long as thr people who rose in thr Super Famicom days are setting policy in Kyoto, and more importantly doing their market research by looking out the window it will remain so.
Memorabilia
Member
I love the Switch. But... You're not wrong. This is actually a good post. Nintendo is utterly clueless when it comes to online. Their system is really an after thought and not worthy of paying a sub fee.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
So long as Switch doesn't have Overwatch, COD, Battlefield, FIFA, PUBG, Destiny and the like then Nintendo isn't going to eat make any significant portion of PS4 and Xbox One's multiplayer base. Even with free online.
Its far too late for that. People have their friends lists, they have their digital game libraries. No one could make a compelling enough product to get Nintendo into the race since their hardware is so outdated. Thats ehy attempting multiplats there is always a waste of time. Theres the initial bump, and then it flatlines because everyone who has a Switch has a PS4 or X1, where the controls, the graphics, and the online experience will always be far superior. S soon as support dollars, 360 titles, and ID tech games (Carmack designed it to be hugely scalable) run out, so do thr ports as theyre way too expensive to make custom versions for Switch.