AllIsOneIsNone
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lol! so uhh, Frankie, you got a date to the uh, 2012 video game awards yet?
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Halo |OT2| Hyper-Athletic Speed And Mass And Weight and Power
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lol! so uhh, Frankie, you got a date to the uh, 2012 video game awards yet?
I'm thinking they'll make them boosters and not a full blown jetpack. Increase jump height and the ability to throttle fall speed.
I talked myself into Instant Respawns in slayer game types.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Instagib gametype at release please.
Sending message karma.
Steelyuhas
Member
Instagib?
Again using COD as an example, but I think it's pretty safe to assume you'll automatically respawn after 3 or 5 seconds if you don't press X.
EDIT: Both answered below.
Wasn't SWAT a gametype on the disc in Reach?
SWAT.
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Yes.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Did they add killcam or final kill cam?
Forerunner Cam. Get with it Lil Blain.
Million sales hopefully
Zeouterlimits
Member
If possible, please address the reasoning behind the instant spawn system in the podcast. I think it's what I'm most unhappy about right now.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Someone stream Halo. I'm at work on Easter Sunday, zero shipments to key yet I can't go home. Dear lord I need a new job.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Instant respawning only possible in non-objective games? I don't see the problem.
I've played a few games of both Halo 3 and Reach with no respawn time hacks, it didn't make much of an impact.
I've played a few games of both Halo 3 and Reach with no respawn time hacks, it didn't make much of an impact.
Get players back into the game faster. Also one less punishment upon death for players, but it doesn't affect the cherished "skill gap" and theoretically wouldn't diminish a team's ability to exert map control (that is if random weapon spawns didn't render that nearly a moot point already), while pretty much doing away with spawn traps. (up to you whether that's a good or bad thing)
The Librarian
Banned
To play devil's advocate, why not add it to the game?
Team doing the killing: impossible to get an exterm, lowered time to recharge shields
Team being killed: no time to see the "X" (communication in an ideal world would make this not matter, but more and more people are mute online)
ADHD (and it also speeds up the game)
Team being killed: no time to see the "X" (communication in an ideal world would make this not matter, but more and more people are mute online)
ADHD (and it also speeds up the game)
HiredN00bs
Member
Speeds it up. I seem to recall some people complaining about the game being too slow.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I like your list the most so far out of what other people have posted. All 7 maps are really solid. Your order of which game had the best maps is probably spot on, although I'd probably put H1 closer to H2. So many good memories in CE. Anyway, here's my list:Lockout never made it back. We got Guardian, Blackout, The Cage, Uncaged, but never Lockout
My 7 maps:
Chillout
Lockout
Midship
Sanctuary
Warlock
Beaver Creek
The Pit
(so yeah, H2 >>>>>>> H1 > H3 >>> Reach in terms of maps)
I also love maps like Sidewinder or Valhalla, but since I'm more of a 4v4 guy I couldn't sacrifice any spots for those two.
Headlong
Lockout
Standoff - without the laser and OP vehicles, this map would have been a classic
Warlock
Zanzibar
Colossus - so very, very much underrated
And number 7:
Citadel, Burial Mounds, Ivory Tower, Sanctuary, Terminal, Waterworks, Boarding Action, Midship, Hang'em High, Chillout, Battle Creek, Gemini, Longshore, Prisoner, Longest
And just for kicks, since none of them come close to the maps from previous games. Favorite non-forge Reach map: It's a tie between Countdown and Swordbase. I don't know why, but I always found Swordbase very entertaining. And since I was usually alone with randoms, the map is constructed very well to support solo play.
The only issue I have with it is if you kill a player but are weak and they spawn immediately somewhere near you and then finish you off.
The Antitype
Banned
Ok, as somebody who has been up on the mountains snowboarding for the last several days, can you guys link me to all the new info, or give me the run-down on all the important pieces that people are either a) excited about or b) enraged at?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Who the hell (besides Tashi) actually cares? Also, I could have sworn I read that shields will be recharging faster in 4.
Makes it easier for bad people to get kills. I was going to say it destroys the concept of map control, but H4 will probably have the same randomized spawns as Reach so unskilled people will have it easier there too.
Hydranockz
Member
It's nice to slowly be dripped some details.
I like this idea of instant respawning breaking spawn camping/trapping. Now Over can get killed by rockets 6 times in a row even sooner and quit out
I like this idea of instant respawning breaking spawn camping/trapping. Now Over can get killed by rockets 6 times in a row even sooner and quit out
With recharing shields it could become an annoyance.
Also, the respawn time is a penalty for dying and is in place so your team will have to play with less players for a short period of time.
- Demoncarnotaur's summary of multiplayer changes.Ok, as somebody who has been up on the mountains snowboarding for the last several days, can you guys link me to all the new info, or give me the run-down on all the important pieces that people are either a) excited about or b) enraged at?
Thanks.
- Dani's summary of non-multiplayer stuff and multiplayer.
- My post post about newly announced co-op mode Spartan Ops (Yes, that is the real name for it).
- A rundown of comments made by Frank and David about multiplayer changes: post 1 and post 2 (will update as much as possible).
- Dax wants Chief and Cortana to make sweet passionate love, Frank says "lolwut".
I'm so hoping 343 doesn't go down that route with Cortana and Chief. Frankie's "lolwut" was the most calming post he's ever made, next to "I wouldn't worry".
Wonder what new characters make it into this trilogy. Gonna take quite a character to replace Johnson, if that's their intention. I sure wouldn't mind it being a Cortana/Chief/major antagonist show the whole way through.
ODST Firefight. <3
Wonder what new characters make it into this trilogy. Gonna take quite a character to replace Johnson, if that's their intention. I sure wouldn't mind it being a Cortana/Chief/major antagonist show the whole way through.
ODST Firefight. <3
The Antitype
Banned
User 73706
Banned
That reminds me, you guys know the nightclub that was in New Alexandria? The layout was almost exactly Crater's and since I first realized that I was hoping we'd get it as a firefight map for DLC. I'm kinda disappointed we didn't, honestly--just imagine a traditional Brute Chieftan final round in there, minus the fuel rod gun/jetpack death from above stuff that Reach introduced.
Yup, it is Crater. I always felt it was doomed to never be DLC though, because you'd hear "they're selling us content already on the disc". Would have never been politically viable.
The fact that they shouldn't spawn you right next to the guy who just killed you.
Active Camo.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
What the hell is your problem with the Name "Spartan Ops" it makes perfect sense its Spartans engaging in military operation i dont see any problem with it at all and its far from "cheesy"
If anything needed renaming it would be "Spartan Points" that make literally zero sense, Spartan Ops sounds perfectly natural and something that would fit into the universe fairly well, I can easily imagine documents scattered across some ONI high ups desk with the Words "Spartan Ops" on it, However Spartan Points is hilarious... "Spartan 264 went to the Spartan Store to spend his Spartan Points on a new helmet."
xxjuicesxx
Member
Now you're thinking with Adaption!
Not necessarily, if anything, they have the opportunity now to make it stay longer on the map or maybe be more descriptive, I'd hope.
I also dislike Spartan points, called them what the are: credits.
I just hate the name Spartan Ops, sounds tacky and kind of naming it after a COD mode is ugh. Maby it will grow on me, but I just dislike the name.
The Antitype
Banned
1) Choosing primary and secondary weapon loadouts at the beginning of a match doesn't seem so bad to me.
Gears of War 3 actually did this, and it was still a pretty damn balanced, skill-based shooter. I could see the appeal of choosing any combination of the weapons listed based on my preferences, the layout of the map, etc. +1 excitement for that.
2) Armor pieces that tie directly to armor abilities sounds good to me.
One of the bigger problems with armor abilities in Reach was that you could never really tell what armor ability anybody was using from a distance, so you couldn't plan or approach accordingly. If I can see a guy has a certain helmet/shoulder/chest/whatever and immediately know 'ok, he has this ability and these stats, I should approach it as such-and-such' that would be an improvement. +1 excitement for that
3) Spartan Ops sounds like a cool idea. I don't necessarily like the idea of it replacing fire-fight instead of adding to it.
Seriously, how many development resources does it take to whip together some maps and drop in some AI routines? Spartan Ops, by the sounds of it, is a much larger undertaking in terms of time and resources.
That said, change the damn name. We all know you're stealing ideas from CoD at this point, changing the word Spec to Spartan doesn't really disguise it that well.
+0 excitement for this.
4) Mid-match joining. Ugh.
As long as there's some barrier between matches where mid-match joining is allowed or not, I'm fine with this. Make it the difference between social and ranked, make different search filters, make different playlists. I don't care. Just make a wall so I don't have to deal with this BS if I don't want to.
-1 excitement for this.
5) Random power weapon drops and instant respawns.
*Deep breath*
THIS IS THE WORST IDEA IN THE LONG SAD HISTORY OF BAD IDEAS. Seriously, how is this not a few steps removed from turning every match into a Fiesta gametype?! Oh, you happened to be standing where the rocket launcher pod fell? Lucky you! Are you out of your MINDS 343?!
-1,000,000 excitement for this, and may god have mercy on the souls of every person at 343 who did not immediately pack up and leave the team after hearing this was the direction. Sinning by silence makes cowards out of men.
Gears of War 3 actually did this, and it was still a pretty damn balanced, skill-based shooter. I could see the appeal of choosing any combination of the weapons listed based on my preferences, the layout of the map, etc. +1 excitement for that.
2) Armor pieces that tie directly to armor abilities sounds good to me.
One of the bigger problems with armor abilities in Reach was that you could never really tell what armor ability anybody was using from a distance, so you couldn't plan or approach accordingly. If I can see a guy has a certain helmet/shoulder/chest/whatever and immediately know 'ok, he has this ability and these stats, I should approach it as such-and-such' that would be an improvement. +1 excitement for that
3) Spartan Ops sounds like a cool idea. I don't necessarily like the idea of it replacing fire-fight instead of adding to it.
Seriously, how many development resources does it take to whip together some maps and drop in some AI routines? Spartan Ops, by the sounds of it, is a much larger undertaking in terms of time and resources.
That said, change the damn name. We all know you're stealing ideas from CoD at this point, changing the word Spec to Spartan doesn't really disguise it that well.
+0 excitement for this.
4) Mid-match joining. Ugh.
As long as there's some barrier between matches where mid-match joining is allowed or not, I'm fine with this. Make it the difference between social and ranked, make different search filters, make different playlists. I don't care. Just make a wall so I don't have to deal with this BS if I don't want to.
-1 excitement for this.
5) Random power weapon drops and instant respawns.
*Deep breath*
THIS IS THE WORST IDEA IN THE LONG SAD HISTORY OF BAD IDEAS. Seriously, how is this not a few steps removed from turning every match into a Fiesta gametype?! Oh, you happened to be standing where the rocket launcher pod fell? Lucky you! Are you out of your MINDS 343?!
-1,000,000 excitement for this, and may god have mercy on the souls of every person at 343 who did not immediately pack up and leave the team after hearing this was the direction. Sinning by silence makes cowards out of men.
That's what has me worried. Guardian in halo 3 was really small and would spawn you really close with the instant respawn mods.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
Sounds like Gears 3's Capture the Leader gametype where the leader can see both teammates and enemies through walls.
Aka stupid.
The Antitype
Banned
It's not stupid in Gears of War 3, it actually creates a skill gap between teams that communicate and teams that don't. If it works like that and has a very reduced range, then it could be a helpful perk for a specific play-style, and worthless to the majority of players.
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